Arizona Governor Signs Additional Controversial Bill

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I am not here to be pretend about my better life and forget about past.. So I am very PROUD that I came from ancestral slaves. they never put me a shame about history slave you speaking now.. there always be rulers and slaves, no else..

I actually am support segregation 100%, immigration law, and am against MLK's IDEAL & SYMBOL. 500 years of History is still here with us, it always tell you and MLK tried to change HISTORY, HE CAN'T!

Native Blacks and native whites suppose to stick this HISTORY for their rest.. IMO..
 
(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.
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CA Codes (pen:833-851.90)

So, why is debt-ridden California boycotting Arizona again?
 
Jiro said:
because it's illegal
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Does California boycott every place that does something it perceives to be illegal? Do they do business with China, for example?
 
Reba...oooooh, good, good point!! It's "illegal" here but it's not over there. Nice logic in that. Nothing illegal in the bill that I can see. It follows the Federal requirement in the first place.
 
Reba said:
Does California boycott every place that does something it perceives to be illegal? Do they do business with China, for example?
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was there something illegal going on in China?
 
Jiro said:
was there something illegal going on in China?
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It's called "human rights violations", not to mention disregard for environmental regulations. Supposedly, those kinds of violations should be anathema to Californians. No?
 
Reba said:
It's called "human rights violations", not to mention disregard for environmental regulations. Supposedly, those kinds of violations should be anathema to Californians. No?
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1. California laws are not applicable in China. with that logic - California would not do business with any other states since our environmental regulations are below California standard
2. human rights violation? like what? If I recall correctly - before doing business, the Americans make sure it abides by its term of contract such as no child labor.
 
Jiro said:
1. California laws are not applicable in China. with that logic - California would not do business with any other states since our environmental regulations are below California standard
2. human rights violation? like what? If I recall correctly - before doing business, the Americans make sure it abides by its term of contract such as no child labor.
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For starters:

http://www.foreignaffairs.house.gov/archives/108/97363.pdf

Eight Great Ironies to the Current Situation in China and Tibet - Human Rights Violations in China.. - Zimbio

China Human Rights

AIUK : Spielberg China boycott: Amnesty briefing on human rights violations from China-Sudan arms trade

China and Human Rights ? Global Issues

Sinopec, Tsingtao, Datang Named for China Environmental Abuses - BusinessWeek

Chinese Suppliers to Microsoft Cited for Labor Violations - NYTimes.com
 
Jiro said:
2. human rights violation? like what? If I recall correctly - before doing business, the Americans make sure it abides by its term of contract such as no child labor.
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Jiro, you have over 30,000 posts in just a few years here. Don't you think you should take more time to learn stuff rather than spouting stuff? I mean, being wrong once in a while is fine- we all are, but this is pretty basic stuff.
 
Basic stuff...

Here's the longest run-on sentence I've encountered in a long time.

The California Chamber of Commerce, in keeping with long-standing policy, enthusiastically supports free trade worldwide, expansion of trade and investment, fair and equitable market access for California products abroad and elimination of disincentives that impede the international competitiveness of California business and, further, while the Chamber deplores human right abuses in China and elsewhere around the world, has supported extension of Permanent Normal Trade Relations trade status and accession to the World Trade Organization for the People's Republic of China as an important step toward greater respect for human rights and political freedom for the Chinese people, since U.S. trade and investment provide crucial support for the entrepreneurial forces in Chinese society that advocate further economic and political reform.
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China - California Chamber of Commerce

Even the California Chamber of Commerce recognizes the abuses and gross violations in China.
 
darkdog said:
Jiro, you have over 30,000 posts in just a few years here. Don't you think you should take more time to learn stuff rather than spouting stuff? I mean, being wrong once in a while is fine- we all are, but this is pretty basic stuff.
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so show me which part I'm wrong :wave:
 
darkdog said:
Jiro, you have over 30,000 posts in just a few years here. Don't you think you should take more time to learn stuff rather than spouting stuff? I mean, being wrong once in a while is fine- we all are, but this is pretty basic stuff.
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!!!!

In 25 months? That much? Good lord.
 
darkdog said:
Jiro, you have over 30,000 posts in just a few years here. Don't you think you should take more time to learn stuff rather than spouting stuff? I mean, being wrong once in a while is fine- we all are, but this is pretty basic stuff.
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I never understood people who keep track of the number of posts an ADer make in a certain amount of time. Who really gives a f**? That always puzzles me when people do that. Is it to put someone down or something?
 
shel90 said:
I never understood people who keep track of the number of posts an ADer make in a certain amount of time. Who really gives a f**? That always puzzles me when people do that. Is it to put someone down or something?
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I don't care if someone makes a billion posts as long as they're well-informed and coherent. If not, they're better off spending their time learning stuff than pontificating. That's why I don't have that many posts- because there's too much I don't know for me to litter up this site with posts on things I know little about. I mostly post if I know something about the topic and have something coherent to say about it.
 
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