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Reba said:
"Major Terrorist Attacks" doesn't mean "All Terrorist Attacks."

CDI is not a government agency.

The last update for this site was January 15, 2009, so it's more than a year behind.

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independent agency does count. I haven't been able to find any terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11 in any government agency site. Can you?
 
July 4, 2002, Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, an Egyptian national who lived in Los Angeles, opened fire on the El Al ticket counter in Los Angeles International Airport, killing two and wounding four others. Hadayet was shot dead by one of the airport security personnel. Although investigators did not find a link between Hadayet and a terrorist group they did find that he had a history of strong anti-Israeli sentiments, and that his objective in the shooting was to influence foreign policy and to die as a martyr.
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Counterterrorism Blog: No Attack in the US Since 9-11?
 
On 3 March 2006, after intentionally striking nine students with his rented Jeep at an estimated speed of 40-45 miles per hour at the University of North Carolina, Mohammed Taheri-azar - an Iranian born US citizen -- dialed 9-1-1 and turned himself in to authorities. Taheri-azar stated he wanted to “follow in the footsteps of one of my role models, Mohammad Atta, one of the 9-11 hijackers.” While some wondered if Taheri-azar’s attack was terrorism-related, he is reported to have told investigators that he wanted to "avenge the deaths or murders of Muslims around the world." Taheri-azar pled guilty to nine counts of attempted first-degree murder on August 13, 2008.
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Counterterrorism Blog: No Attack in the US Since 9-11?
 
darkdog said:
5th Amendment- Only applies to the federal government, which is why the 14th amendment came to be, so if you're talking about due process, you're really talking about the 14th (although the courts have in time gradually applied all the bill of rights to the states). How would this law violate due process?

6th- More due process stuff. How does this take it away? Right to speedy trial, right to be informed of the charges, to confront witnesses, etc. I don't get it. Make some sense of this.
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1 word for you - jingoism

darkdog said:
State doing federal duty- Wouldn't that then rule out your idea of the state going after employers?
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it's done in conjunction with FBI, ICE, etc. that's where our limited resource and manpower should focus on. take away 5 employers.... and 50 or 500 illegals will seek somewhere else.

darkdog said:
Borderline racial profiling- A lot of laws give police the power to do things based on "reasonable suspicion". Any such law could be used by racist police officers to racially profile, no? So should we just scrap all police powers based on "reasonable suspicion"?
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so why give them more power to abuse?

darkdog said:
We're debating the legality of the law, remember? Focus!
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or we can sit back and see which one Arizona will succumb to first - the financial burden or the ruling.
 
Naveed Afzal Haq, an American of Pakistani descent, went on a rampage at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle on 28 July, 2006, after forcing his entry by holding a gun to the head of a 13-year-old girl. Haq then opened fire with two semiautomatic pistols, killing Pamela Waechter and wounding five more women in the Federation’s office spaces. Haq told police hostage negotiators, “I’m upset at your foreign policy. These are Jews and I am tired of getting pushed around and our people getting pushed around by the situation in the Middle East.” Jurors in the case were unable to reach a verdict in June of 2008. A retrial will occur, probably in March of 2009.
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"He states, 'I just want us to get out of Iraq, I'm an American too but I want our people out of Iraq.'"
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2006/07/29/2003162310.pdf
 
Jiro said:
what's the difference between this murderer acting on his delusional political view and the other murderer acting on his delusional religious view?
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"Terrorism:
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons."
dictionary.com
 
Jiro said:
let me know what's the final official finding.
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You don't find it ..... odd .... that Obama does not want this to be declared an "official" act of terrorism (even though it was and is obvious).

You don't find it ..... odd .... that Obama will not admit Bush was right?


about everything?
 
You don't find it ..... strange .... that he is being charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder?


What is premeditated murder by the way?
 
 
Jiro said:
I knew you were gonna ask that. here's one for starter -

Knoxville Unitarian Universalist church shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Trolley Square shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
U.S.: Fort Dix Attack Plot Suspects Promoting Terror in Jail - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com
TSA: Information on Plot to Attack John F. Kennedy Airport

and too many more to list...

so did Bush lie that there was no terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11?
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Plot to attack equates to terrorist attack? Seems the plots were ..... foiled?

Did Congress declare war on Americans?
 
Jiro said:
That's for kokonut.

As for you - see first 2 links. So did Bush lie about no terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11?


Say again?
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By enemies declared by Congress? (Al-Queada, Taliban, Muslim Extremists? Those individuals promulgating the agenda of the enemy?)
 
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