America is losing religion more and more everyday.

but since the bible was written by man without any influence from god all that is a moot point
 
Jesus wrote bible through men. How? World was created and planned by Jesus Christ. Read Genesis 1.
 
We must go back and allow people to practice their religion. This is america! Its formed with all differant kinds of races,Backgrounds and their religions. They should have all these differant communities so people can pratice their own religion. Like a jewish neighborhood can have their kind of religion in their schools and libraries. A catholic community can have theirs and muslims and islamics can have theres. Religion should not be taken away from the people in their community. We must go back to the old ways. The new society has humanity in jeopardy now. And people are getting upset because of religion is slowing fading away from our american culture. Imoraility is rising because of religion is disapering little by little. So im glad we got bill o`reilly,sean hannity and rush limbaugh telling people to take a stand against the ACLU and the left wing polictics in washigton.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Like a jewish neighborhood can have their kind of religion in their schools and libraries. A catholic community can have theirs and muslims and islamics can have theres. Religion should not be taken away from the people in their community.
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It make it sounds like only Jewish goes to a school or library for just the Jewish only not other religions. It just alike the old days when black cannot ride on the bus with all white. We should be allow to go anywhere we want doesn't matter what religion. I went to school where they had most Jewish and they never force us out or treated us badly because some of us have different religion. That the way it supposed to be and always. :thumb:
 
Ok theres a solution,, Every homeroom in school is totaly jewish another homeroom is catholic and another homeroom is another religion. They can say a prayer in the begining of school sesson and the teacher is in that religion too. Bad things are happening in america because religion disapering from our society.
 
Cheri said:
It make it sounds like only Jewish goes to a school or library for just the Jewish only not other religions. It just alike the old days when black cannot ride on the bus with all white. We should be allow to go anywhere we want doesn't matter what religion. I went to school where they had most Jewish and they never force us out or treated us badly because some of us have different religion. That the way it supposed to be and always. :thumb:
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I don't think that is what Ravensteve is saying. It sounds to me like he is saying, if all the families within a certain neighborhood are Jewish, they should be able to set up their schools and libraries to emphasize and support their beliefs. That their schools would follow the Jewish holy days for days off from school, and that their cafeterias would serve Kosher food. He did not say that non-Jews couldn't attend those schools. But I think he is saying that if a non-Jew attends a school in that neighborhood, then that student should obey the rules of that school or else transfer to one that meets the needs of that student.

There are currently some public charter schools set up that way.
 
Now democrats are trying to figure our why they lost the election. This is one of the reasons why. Left wingers are not on our side.Theyre not even on the side of our men and women of our armed forces. Theyre pointing fingers at bush instead of working out a way for our men and women can fight a war over iraq. And left wing democrats are standing up for the ACLU supporting that 10 commandments staue like this one to removed from alabama state capitol.
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And thats one of the reasons republicans have gained control. But now i think its time to work on local goverments and vote the left wingers outta office too.
 
First of all....who gives a shit if America is losing religion? I respect Christianity, but my respect for it only goes so far. I do not like people who constantly parade their christianity shoving it in my face constantly. Public life should be NEUTRAL, meaning not favorable to ANY religion. I mean, how would you like it if you lived in a country where you were a religous minority?
Homosexaulity is a very grave and immorial sin. AIDS is gods punishment on homosexaulity. Even Rev jerry falwell mentioned this. If people would read genius on adam and eve they know what sex between a man and a woman is about.
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Steve, that's YOUR interpretation of things. I know that a lot of the "references" to "homosexuality in the Bible were actually about things like rape, pedophilla, carnal worship of gods and so on. If AIDS is god's punishment for homosexuality, then how come lesbians are at the lowest risk for aquirring AIDS? Jerry Falwell is a crackhead....I mean come on....he's the guy who said that Tinky-Winkie was gay! Being LBG isn't about having sex...we are not hedonistic, rest-stop perverts. We simply happen to love someone who has the same bits down south as we do. Hey....did you know that there are scholars who say that there are some pro-gay references in the Bible, AND some scholars even think JESUS was gay!
 
There are currently some public charter schools set up that way.
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What public schools? I never heard about that. I do know there are private schools for "Jewish" and "Catholic."
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Ok theres a solution,, Every homeroom in school is totaly jewish another homeroom is catholic and another homeroom is another religion. They can say a prayer in the begining of school sesson and the teacher is in that religion too. Bad things are happening in america because religion disapering from our society.
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Too bad with your wish. We can't let it happen. Why? It is god's plan.

You said, "This is America!" Well, you are very wrong on this time. This is Jesus and God's world!! God created you and us. We rebelled aganist god with our sin. So we could say this is America! In fact this is Jesus and God's world.

Genesis 1:27-28 NIV
27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

Romans 3:10-20 NIV
"10 As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one;
11 there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
12 All have turned away,
they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good,
not even one.”
13 “Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.” “The poison of vipers is on their lips.”
14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”
15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
17 and the way of peace they do not know.”
18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.
 
Rebe and Ravensteve I copletly agree with you big time

Now remeber also back in the old days world war one and two and vietnam were started by guess who democrat president. Now senior president bush is the very first republican to start a war against saddam hussian guess what no casualtly and brought the solders home within six months less taxpayer geez what way to go. Go olook it up and see how much casuality and tax mney at those other war at top compared to bush. maaaaannnn give me a break. Kerry is a flip flop anyway you heard on the news live cant that be lying on live tv.why not.
 
this is america

Crazymanw00t said:
Too bad with your wish. We can't let it happen. Why? It is god's plan.

You said, "This is America!" Well, you are very wrong on this time. This is Jesus and God's world!! God created you and us. We rebelled aganist god with our sin. So we could say this is America! In fact this is Jesus and God's world.

Genesis 1:27-28 NIV
27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

Romans 3:10-20 NIV
"10 As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one;
11 there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
12 All have turned away,
they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good,
not even one.”
13 “Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.” “The poison of vipers is on their lips.”
14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”
15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
17 and the way of peace they do not know.”
18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.
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america stands for here in usa no ,the world is the god and jesus" s world . want me make it simple the whole world is god and jesus world.
 
Remember when clinton bombed kosovo? Where was the outrage from ted kennedy? Where was the outrage from John Kerry? Where was the outrage from Tom daschile? Where was the outrage from barbra boxer? Where was the outrage from jessie jackson and rev al sharpton?Where are the anti war protesters around the world? Why didnt clinton ask the UN permission to attack kosovo huh?? I tell you why because the media didnt make a big deal about kosovo. They wouldnt following the military around like theyre doing in iraq. And remember clinton bombed an aspirn factory and the chinese embassy? Where was the outrage and all the media hype about that huh?
 
Cheri said:
What public schools? I never heard about that. I do know there are private schools for "Jewish" and "Catholic."
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http://www.uscharterschools.org/pub/uscs_docs/o/faq.html#2
"A charter school is a nonsectarian public school of choice that operates with freedom from many of the regulations that apply to traditional public schools. The "charter" establishing each such school is a performance contract detailing the school's mission, program, goals, students served, methods of assessment, and ways to measure success. The length of time for which charters are granted varies, but most are granted for 3-5 years. At the end of the term, the entity granting the charter may renew the school's contract. Charter schools are accountable to their sponsor-usually a state or local school board-to produce positive academic results and adhere to the charter contract. The basic concept of charter schools is that they exercise increased autonomy in return for this accountability. They are accountable for both academic results and fiscal practices to several groups: the sponsor that grants them, the parents who choose them, and the public that funds them."

In my local area there is a charter "school of the arts" for students who want an education emphasizing performing arts (singing, dancing, theater), and fine arts (painting, sculpture, photography). Another charter school is set up like a military prep school for "at risk" students. Another charter school is an academic magnet school for advanced and challenge courses.
 
more about charter schools (same link):

"Who attends charter schools? Whom do they serve?
Nationwide, students in charter schools have similar demographic characteristics to students in all public schools. In some states charter schools serve significantly higher percentages of minority or economically disadvantaged students than the traditional public schools.

How are they funded?
As public schools, charters are not allowed to charge tuition, and they are funded according to enrollment. In some states, such as Alaska, Colorado, Minnesota, and New Jersey, they receive less than 100% of the funds allocated to their traditional counterparts for the operation of public schools. In other states, like California, additional funds or loans are made available to them. In most states, charters do not receive capital funds for facilities. They are entitled to federal categorical funding for which their students are eligible, such as Title I and Special Education monies. Federal legislation provides grants to help charters with start-up costs."
 
deafdyke said:
First of all....who gives a shit if America is losing religion? I respect Christianity, but my respect for it only goes so far. I do not like people who constantly parade their christianity shoving it in my face constantly. Public life should be NEUTRAL, meaning not favorable to ANY religion. I mean, how would you like it if you lived in a country where you were a religous minority?

Steve, that's YOUR interpretation of things. I know that a lot of the "references" to "homosexuality in the Bible were actually about things like rape, pedophilla, carnal worship of gods and so on. If AIDS is god's punishment for homosexuality, then how come lesbians are at the lowest risk for aquirring AIDS? Jerry Falwell is a crackhead....I mean come on....he's the guy who said that Tinky-Winkie was gay! Being LBG isn't about having sex...we are not hedonistic, rest-stop perverts. We simply happen to love someone who has the same bits down south as we do. Hey....did you know that there are scholars who say that there are some pro-gay references in the Bible, AND some scholars even think JESUS was gay!
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Why Christian should be neutral with non-Christian or public life? Christian people knew the truth and they are trying to save you from blind truth and world of sin life

SIN word means to destroy everything what God had created. It means to destroy you, your life, your happiness, and your love!

Remember the bible verses said, that people will mock on Jesus. For example, you said some people called Jesus gay because they were jealous of Jesus with his perfect life as holiness.
Luke 6:22 NIV
22 Blessed are you when men hate you,
when they exclude you and insult you
and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man

If AIDS is god's punishment for homosexuality, then how come lesbians are at the lowest risk for aquirring AIDS?

I do not believe it was God's punishment on homosexuality. God's punishment on homosexuality is SIN and not AIDS.

Ok here is my rebuttal for you. Is it normal for gay men to have sex with more than 500 men? Is it normal for many homosexual people to die young? Is it normal that many homosexual have STD/STI? Is it normal for homosexual to meet some stranger for a week then they went for sexual intercourse and then never meet again? Obvious NOT! Homosexual is not right because it is very unbalanced for our sex gender relationship. Purpose of Homosexuality was just because of pleasure of intercourse and temporally of joyful. It is just simply Satan’s work and Satan's soliders. My questions are fact information from http://po55um.tripod.com/jews/normal.html and perfect website http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_fixe.htm.

I like that quote and I support 100% with that statement, "Yes. It is more serious than many other sins. It endangers the family and thus social stability." Homosexual people will be responisble for messing USA. I believe when USA will fall from being most powerful in world, and USA will start Holocaust II for Homosexual. *I know it sounds too hash but I read many information and it supported that statement*
 
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harleymn said:
Now remeber also back in the old days world war one and two and vietnam were started by guess who democrat president. Now senior president bush is the very first republican to start a war against saddam hussian guess what no casualtly and brought the solders home within six months less taxpayer geez what way to go. Go olook it up and see how much casuality and tax mney at those other war at top compared to bush. maaaaannnn give me a break. Kerry is a flip flop anyway you heard on the news live cant that be lying on live tv.why not.
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Err... both World Wars weren't started by democrats. It was in Europe, Americans joined the war, they didn't start anything.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Remember when clinton bombed kosovo? Where was the outrage from ted kennedy? Where was the outrage from John Kerry? Where was the outrage from Tom daschile? Where was the outrage from barbra boxer? Where was the outrage from jessie jackson and rev al sharpton?Where are the anti war protesters around the world? Why didnt clinton ask the UN permission to attack kosovo huh?? I tell you why because the media didnt make a big deal about kosovo. They wouldnt following the military around like theyre doing in iraq. And remember clinton bombed an aspirn factory and the chinese embassy? Where was the outrage and all the media hype about that huh?
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Remember that is American's politics. I'm sorry you are dragging us to off-topic from this thread's topic.

Do you remember Abraham Lincoln? JFK? MLK? Why they were assassined? They wanted to change our country's politic to let people to run 100% control on the American's government. But it never happened because they were killed. I believe our American government like CIA or etc killed them to prevent us to losing profits with money. It is too much to explain with you on that issue. I gave you the summary of whole crisis. What I am trying to say, that is American's Politic and nothing we can do about it. Please go back to Topic of this thread.
 
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deafdyke said:
I mean, how would you like it if you lived in a country where you were a religous minority?
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Well, as a born-again independent Baptist, I am living in a country as a religious minority.


Steve, that's YOUR interpretation of things. I know that a lot of the "references" to "homosexuality in the Bible were actually about things like rape, pedophilla, carnal worship of gods and so on.
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Even if some of those references were not about homosexuality, it doesn't make homosexuality acceptable to God. If God says even once in the Bible that something is a sin, then once is enough. Suppose God had said that murder was wrong only once in the Bible. Would you say, "Well, God only mentioned murder once in the Bible, so it is really OK." Of course not.


Hey....did you know that there are scholars who say that there are some pro-gay references in the Bible, AND some scholars even think JESUS was gay!
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Those "so-called" scholars are deceivers who are trying to fit the Bible to their own agendas. Jesus did not have sexual relations with anyone, male or female, and it is blasphemy to make such an accusation.
 
Reba said:
Well, as a born-again independent Baptist, I am living in a country as a religious minority.

Even if some of those references were not about homosexuality, it doesn't make homosexuality acceptable to God. If God says even once in the Bible that something is a sin, then once is enough. Suppose God had said that murder was wrong only once in the Bible. Would you say, "Well, God only mentioned murder once in the Bible, so it is really OK." Of course not.

Those "so-called" scholars are deceivers who are trying to fit the Bible to their own agendas. Jesus did not have sexual relations with anyone, male or female, and it is blasphemy to make such an accusation.
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You are right!
I am reformed Christian. You can check it at http://www.deafreformed.org/
 
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