America is losing religion more and more everyday.

[Reba]

Types of charter schools:

http://www.myscschools.com/offices/ssys/alternative_education/charter_schools/page914.cfm

 

[jazzy]

Why do Christians and our Gov't spend most of time focus on gay when I see adultery everywhere ( esp in Christian community) in our country. No wonder, so many people left God.

 

[bbnt]

Jesus wrote bible through men. How? World was created and planned by Jesus Christ. Read Genesis 1.

and the men that wrote the bible want you to beliveve just that

 

[bbnt]

We must go back and allow people to practice their religion. This is america! Its formed with all differant kinds of races,Backgrounds and their religions. They should have all these differant communities so people can pratice their own religion. Like a jewish neighborhood can have their kind of religion in their schools and libraries. A catholic community can have theirs and muslims and islamics can have theres. Religion should not be taken away from the people in their community. We must go back to the old ways. The new society has humanity in jeopardy now. And people are getting upset because of religion is slowing fading away from our american culture. Imoraility is rising because of religion is disapering little by little. So im glad we got bill o`reilly,sean hannity and rush limbaugh telling people to take a stand against the ACLU and the left wing polictics in washigton.

bill o`reilly,sean hannity and rush limbaugh are some of the most immoral people in this country, along with those hypocritical religious leaders who work their evil in the name of god

 

[bbnt]

Ok theres a solution,, Every homeroom in school is totaly jewish another homeroom is catholic and another homeroom is another religion. They can say a prayer in the begining of school sesson and the teacher is in that religion too. Bad things are happening in america because religion disapering from our society.

bad things happen in America because bad people do bad things in the name of god

 

[bbnt]

Now democrats are trying to figure our why they lost the election. This is one of the reasons why. Left wingers are not on our side.Theyre not even on the side of our men and women of our armed forces. Theyre pointing fingers at bush instead of working out a way for our men and women can fight a war over iraq. And left wing democrats are standing up for the ACLU supporting that 10 commandments staue like this one to removed from alabama state capitol.

And thats one of the reasons republicans have gained control. But now i think its time to work on local goverments and vote the left wingers outta office too.

republicans have gained control because of the mindless zombies that can't think for themselves and instead listen to corrupt church elders who tell them how to do everything except wipe their asses

 

[bbnt]

Remember when clinton bombed kosovo? Where was the outrage from ted kennedy? Where was the outrage from John Kerry? Where was the outrage from Tom daschile? Where was the outrage from barbra boxer? Where was the outrage from jessie jackson and rev al sharpton?Where are the anti war protesters around the world? Why didnt clinton ask the UN permission to attack kosovo huh?? I tell you why because the media didnt make a big deal about kosovo. They wouldnt following the military around like theyre doing in iraq. And remember clinton bombed an aspirn factory and the chinese embassy? Where was the outrage and all the media hype about that huh?

there is not one fact in your message

 

[bbnt]

Why do Christians and our Gov't spend most of time focus on gay when I see adultery everywhere ( esp in Christian community) in our country. No wonder, so many people left God.

some of the most perverse people are church elders

 

[jazzy]

and the men that wrote the bible want you to beliveve just that

Those words were not written by men but Holy Spirit wrote them thru men. Many of us do not need to believe that cuz we already knew. God has not touch you yet as He have on others.

 

[jazzy]

some of the most perverse people are church elders

Sadly, they are bad example of Christians.

 

[bbnt]

Those words were not written by men but Holy Spirit wrote them thru men. Many of us do not need to believe that cuz we already knew. God has not touch you yet as He have on others.

wrong, they were written by men. I do believe in god just not the corrupt and perverse way man has CHOSEN to portray him

 

[Angel]

Why do Christians and our Gov't spend most of time focus on gay when I see adultery everywhere ( esp in Christian community) in our country. No wonder, so many people left God.

Amen, I am a Christian myself and I'm not going to spend my life focusing on Gay marriage or their lives, I don't quite understand why the Goverment and some Christian people is soo worry about it when Gay are not out there killing people....

I personally think some Christian people keep forgetting one thing in the Bible which is ' shall not judge your neighborhoods '....

I have a question, Do you think God allowed you to judge others and push away the ones who wants to believe in God?....that what is happening now, where people thinking of leaving God is because some Christian people keeps pushing them about Gay marriage and etc....God doesn't want you to judge any people , but to love them , and to respect them....treat them with fairness is what Jesus would do....

Yes, I believe in God and what it say in the Bible, but do I go around and say what is right and wrong? no I don't, I pray for them and let God be the judge...

But lately, I see too much judgement....tsk tsk

 

[Angel]

Another thing I wanted to add, as what Taylor had said in other thread about Religion people comes by and knocked on your door telling you about the Bible, and pushing them into believing in God, if they don't they will burn in hell...

This is what I've been seeing lately, not just only the people who comes at your house by knocking on your door telling you about the Bible, but there are other things I am seeing out in this world, is some Christian people takes the Bible so seriously and tell them what they are doing wrong and if they don't follow what it say on the Bible then they will burn in hell for that.....We don't go around saying those kind of things that is not what God want us to do as being a Christian, we are to give them what we know about God, but not to judge or force them to believing in HIM...the only thing they willing to believe in God if they accept Jesus in their heart not thru their mind or thru what you want them to see....that how God would want you to go around teaching them about Him and about what is in the Bible.....

I think some Christian are taken it a bit too serious beside, we want others to believe in God in a good way by coming across in a way as Jesus would do for the others and that is what I believe....

 

[Reba]

... I do believe in god just not the corrupt and perverse way man has CHOSEN to portray him

The Bible shows that God is all holy, all righteous, all loving, all knowing, all powerful, and eternal. What is corrupt or perverse about that?

 

[Vance]

Why do Christians and our Gov't spend most of time focus on gay when I see adultery everywhere ( esp in Christian community) in our country. No wonder, so many people left God.

Good point. That's what I told ravensteve a while ago but naturally, he ranted nonsense afterward. For f**kin' sake, adultery is in 'ten top' (Ten Commandments). They did nothing about these adultery issue in christian community. Again, apparently that they don't understand what 'practice what you preach' and its mean.

bad things happen in America because bad people do bad things in the name of god

Yep.

bill o`reilly,sean hannity and rush limbaugh are some of the most immoral people in this country, along with those hypocritical religious leaders who work their evil in the name of god

Again, yep. Apparently that 'judge not, lest ye be judged' is totally lost on them. I guess they are incapable of understanding what its mean. Or too stupid. It is more likely latter one for sure.

I have a question, Do you think God allowed you to judge others and push away the ones who wants to believe in God?....that what is happening now, where people thinking of leaving God is because some Christian people keeps pushing them about Gay marriage and etc....God doesn't want you to judge any people , but to love them , and to respect them....treat them with fairness is what Jesus would do....

Exactly. These people failed to understand what 'love', 'respect' and 'social equality' means. That's where America's downfall will start from there once they banned homosexuals from marriage, from school (included single mothers), etc etc.. It is a matter of time. God and Jesus clearly do not allow that yet these people ignored their Words.. We will see the trouble times in America soon or later for sure. No wonder why vikings massacred these christians in the past for forcing their beliefs on them.

I want to avoid the 'point a finger at others' but I want to state my opinion that bbnt is right in many area.

 

[bbnt]

The Bible shows that God is all holy, all righteous, all loving, all knowing, all powerful, and eternal. What is corrupt or perverse about that?

they made sure to tell you just that then proceded to put in who was in charge{ MEN } who you couln't love {Same sex} and countless other BS

 

[Levonian]

they made sure to tell you just that then proceded to put in who was in charge{ MEN } who you couln't love {Same sex} and countless other BS

The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history.

Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a god superior to themselves. Most gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child.

—Robert Heinlein

 

[Crazymanw00t]

Exactly. These people failed to understand what 'love', 'respect' and 'social equality' means. That's where America's downfall will start from there once they banned homosexuals from marriage, from school (included single mothers), etc etc.. It is a matter of time. God and Jesus clearly do not allow that yet these people ignored their Words.. We will see the trouble times in America soon or later for sure. No wonder why the society in Sweden is getting better and better every second. They understand what social equality, respect and love means. They totally understand. Also no wonder why vikings massacred these christians in the past.

Well, Remember this. Today our biggest problems are that we often mix with our feeling and thoughts with the bible. That is not right thing to do. Bible declared the righteous of way living by Jesus Christ and god. Bible declared Homosexuality is wrongful action. Read my previous post about Homosexual and It has full proves. *I assured that mostly of you skipped my posts because it is too long* Therefore, we need to ban homosexual marriage at any cost.

Today, we thought of respect and equalize to balance our life but in fact, we are moving toward to sin world from the holiness world. Do you remember in past with before of 50s life. It was better life than today. It was simple life compared with today's life because in past we mostly depend with religious. We have too many issues to cover just because of feelings or guts of fairness, and respecting their life or love. We need to bring bible back in our system and clear up the messes that we are facing.

Sweden does have problems as American do. They just do not put it on news like our stupid ness media system. They just want to put positives energies with their Sweden people to encourage them to be successful. If you went to Europe and you watched their media system. You will see much less negative news compared with American's media. I believe that our media controlled our living of thoughts. For example, MTV is influencing our young people’s life. It is sad. Imagine this, if we reduced our negative news on our media system and you will say, “oh, our country is doing fine like Sweden’s.”

Can you give me info about Viking killing the Christian people in our history event? I demand to know about it.

For your info, “We will see the trouble times in America soon or later for sure.” It is clearly that we will face same history with Roman Empire. We will fall from being most powerful country in world by attacked from terrorist. We do not know when it will happen.

Why it is so clearly same history as Roman Empire? When Roman Empire was going to fall and their economy were in mess. Muslims were influencing on them. Therefore, Roman Empire had to use other countries solider to keep Roman Empire to remain strong, but in fact they were spreading into thin line with their Roman Empire. How it applies to our system with American? We are losing our economy and messing around with our economy. We are facing many Muslims at our country. We are using Mexican people at our war fronts. We are using other countries people to join our military to fight with other countries. We are cutting in our military system due to budget mess. We are spreading into thin because of Iraqi, Afgans, and terrorist. Terrorist will use nuke or dirty bomb at some of our major city. It will impact hard on us. For exampe, WTC, and Okla bomb. I don't know when it will happen, but in our life-time is surely thing.

Muslims and homosexual will be first people to blame. Muslims are bringing their problems to our country with Israel. Homosexual people are sweeping our religious practicing and messing up our health system and at government system, too. I believe that we will bring Holocaust II at American in our lifetime. I want to clear it up, those are my opinion and what I read and discussed with many people and with information on news/book/articles/experinces.

 

[Crazymanw00t]

Another thing I wanted to add, as what Taylor had said in other thread about Religion people comes by and knocked on your door telling you about the Bible, and pushing them into believing in God, if they don't they will burn in hell...

This is what I've been seeing lately, not just only the people who comes at your house by knocking on your door telling you about the Bible, but there are other things I am seeing out in this world, is some Christian people takes the Bible so seriously and tell them what they are doing wrong and if they don't follow what it say on the Bible then they will burn in hell for that.....We don't go around saying those kind of things that is not what God want us to do as being a Christian, we are to give them what we know about God, but not to judge or force them to believing in HIM...the only thing they willing to believe in God if they accept Jesus in their heart not thru their mind or thru what you want them to see....that how God would want you to go around teaching them about Him and about what is in the Bible.....

I think some Christian are taken it a bit too serious beside, we want others to believe in God in a good way by coming across in a way as Jesus would do for the others and that is what I believe....

I believe that they are fake christian. Or you assumed that they were christian. I believe they were JW *Forgot how to spell it out*.

In bible they don't say that you have to spread the gospel or you will be burned in hell. Jesus said he will reward to anyone who will spread his words to anyone.
I can't remember where that verse about rewards in the bible. If I find it and I will post it up here.

Anyway, we are in sin world and we are expected to do sins repeatly. We just have to be careful what we are doing with our life. We have to put faith on Jesus Christ to keep away from the sin attacking you to pull you away from Jesus. Remember, Jesus may use you to do sins for some goods with his plan.

Let me clear this up for you.

Ephesians 1:3-6

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,
5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He has made us accepted in the Beloved.

Fact #1: God chose us. We did not choose Him.
Fact #2: God chose us before the world began.
Fact #3: God chose us according to the good pleasure of His will, not according to His seeing our faith in the future.
Fact #4: We were not the ones who accepted Him. He accepted us.

Need I say more?

You may want to read entry of Proverb at Bible. It talks about how our christian life would be like.

 

[Crazymanw00t]

Yes, I believe in God and what it say in the Bible, but do I go around and say what is right and wrong? no I don't, I pray for them and let God be the judge...

You don't have to judge them or tell them what to do. You may want to use bible verses to tell them what to do right or wrong. You just have to leave them to decide what to take and not.

You need to offer them the righteous life from bible. You also need to show the Jesus's way to others. Jesus declared on his brother and sisters to turn away from sin and follow him. Jesus clearly commanded on Christian to follow him. It was not a choice for you to choose.

Mathew 4:19, 8:22, 9:9, 10:38, 16:24, 19:21 NIV
4:19 “Come, follow me,” Jesus said, “and I will make you fishers of men.”

8:22 But Jesus told him, “Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.”

9:9 As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector's booth. “Follow me,” he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him.

10:38 and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.

16:24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.

19:21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

Mark 1:17 “Come, follow me,” Jesus said, “and I will make you fishers of men.”

John 10:27, 12:26, 21:22
10:27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.

12:26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.

21:22 Jesus answered, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me.”