Airplane Crash today and is Missing

Towards Kazakhstan is a joke, they'd run out of fuel just flying over the Himalayas, plus their radar and MiGs would have intercepted it. I would guess into the Indian Ocean at low altitude (radar has trouble picking up aircraft flying low) towards Yemen/Somalia/Sudan, or any lawless country along that route. But a UK/US airbase on Diego Garcia hasn't picked up anything either. Otherwise, gone near the Antarctic or I smell a coverup! :roll:
 
There are a lot of Air America runways ..... just saying :whistle:

The CIA do not build runways. They have been known to land in quite places around the world. They had their own airline. Today, they are under a new name, still with airplanes, helicopters, etc.

Why would our CIA want to get rid of a fully loaded airplane? No strategic reason.
 
Towards Kazakhstan is a joke, they'd run out of fuel just flying over the Himalayas, plus their radar and MiGs would have intercepted it. I would guess into the Indian Ocean at low altitude (radar has trouble picking up aircraft flying low) towards Yemen/Somalia/Sudan, or any lawless country along that route. But a UK/US airbase on Diego Garcia hasn't picked up anything either. Otherwise, gone near the Antarctic or I smell a coverup! :roll:

Concur with Diego Garcia. Too many U.S. B-1 & 2 bombers and a fighter squadron there. They would be alert.
 
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Stein does have a point ... I haven't read anything on this other than what has been posted here ... BUT ... if 20 specialists that work for DoD were on it no one specialist's knowledge would be worth hijacking a plane over but if those 20 each had different training areas and experience could what all of them know be put together to make one specific WMD device that hijacking a plane would be worth? A different example, in WWII different groups were tasked with different areas of making those bombs but each group didn't know what the other was doing or what their work would be used for.

As far as knowing when. what, and how to hijack a certain plane its common knowledge now that terrorist groups try to get their people on the inside and may be in the inside for years before being called into action. In spite of all the actions taken to try to prevent that its still possible for someone to slip in under the radar until its too late.

Now my opinion, the plane just needs to be found and action taken either to bring those people home or give their families some type of closure of the entire crazy thing and different countries playing the blame game chasing their own tails ain't gonna get anywhere.
 
Stein does have a point ... I haven't read anything on this other than what has been posted here ... BUT ... if 20 specialists that work for DoD were on it no one specialist's knowledge would be worth hijacking a plane over but if those 20 each had different training areas and experience could what all of them know be put together to make one specific WMD device that hijacking a plane would be worth? A different example, in WWII different groups were tasked with different areas of making those bombs but each group didn't know what the other was doing or what their work would be used for.

As far as knowing when. what, and how to hijack a certain plane its common knowledge now that terrorist groups try to get their people on the inside and may be in the inside for years before being called into action. In spite of all the actions taken to try to prevent that its still possible for someone to slip in under the radar until its too late.

Now my opinion, the plane just needs to be found and action taken either to bring those people home or give their families some type of closure of the entire crazy thing and different countries playing the blame game chasing their own tails ain't gonna get anywhere.

the only country that's making us chasing our tails is the Malaysian government.
 
Specialists associated with Malaysian work with knowledge in assembling WMDs? The odds are remote, look at the root of all this. Why that particular flight?
 
Specialists associated with Malaysian work with knowledge in assembling WMDs? The odds are remote, look at the root of all this. Why that particular flight?

20 engineers together in a same plane.... definitely looks like a corporate retreat

I seriously doubt they're high-level type. my friend is Chinese and he works for a defense contractor that specializes in radio/wireless/satellite communication (I think). I guess I better not fly with him. same for any of my friends who work for defense contractor :Ohno:
 
Freescale loss in Malaysia tragedy leads to travel policy questions | Reuters
(Reuters) - The loss of 20 key Freescale Semiconductor (FSL.N) employees in the disappearance of a Malaysian airliner on Saturday raises questions about whether the company should have allowed so many of them to board the same plane, but security experts said that at big corporations it's hard to avoid.

The disappearance of Malaysia Airlines' (MASM.KL) Flight MH370 about an hour into its journey to Beijing remained a mystery on Monday as a search orchestrated by 10 countries failed to find traces of the plane or the 239 people on board.

It was a blow to Austin, Texas-based Freescale. The vanished employees were engineers or specialists involved in projects to streamline and cut costs at key manufacturing facilities in China and Malaysia.

Many large companies have policies to prevent chief executives, chief financial officers and other senior executives from flying together to minimize disruption in case of a fatal crash, but few firms extend strict policies much further down the ladder.

Large organizations from corporations to sports franchises almost never prevent key employees and team members from riding together in buses, limousines or cars, which are potentially more dangerous than flying, corporate safety and security experts say.

Even the Manchester United soccer team, which in 1958 lost eight players after a plane they were on crashed during take-off in Munich, continues to fly together to games across Europe, as do professional sports teams around the world.

For global companies organizing sales conferences and moving workers frequently between sites, fettering employees' travel plans is impractical and often not worth the inconvenience and potential extra costs, except in unique cases where their loss would be catastrophic, the experts say.

"When a lot of people are killed all in one place at one time, we spend disproportionate emotional focus on that risk: disproportionate to the probability and to the tradeoffs involved in any risk management choice, like spreading these guys out and putting them on a bunch of different airplanes," said David Ropeik, who writes and consults about risk perception.

The risk of dying in a plane crash differs depending on variables looked at, like total distance flown versus the number of trips. But in general, commercial flying is safer than driving, Ropeik said.

Freescale has travel policies covering all of its employees and the number of workers on the Malaysia Airlines flight fell within applicable guidelines, said Mitch Haws, the company's vice president for global communications and investor relations.

Shares of Austin, Texas-based Freescale fell 1.28 percent to $23.09 on Monday. They were down 2.7 percent at one point in early trade.

RIDE WITH ME

The Freescale employees on MH370 were mostly engineers and other experts working to make the company's chip facilities in Tianjin, China, and Kuala Lumpur more efficient. They were based in those two locations and traveled back and forth on a regular basis to work on different projects, according to the company.

While they accounted for less than 1 percent of Freescale's 16,800 employees, they were doing specialized work and were part of a broad push by Chief Executive Officer Gregg Lowe to make Freescale more cost-effective.

"Anybody who travels for a company is a relatively important individual," said RBC analyst Doug Freedman. "But Freescale has a deep bench. It has resources it will pull from other places to fill the void."

Letting a number of employees travel together is the norm rather than the exception for many companies.

Chipmaker Intel (INTC.O) uses private planes to shuttle managers and executives between offices and factories in California, Oregon and Arizona. Those fly several times a day, often with more than 35 employees on each flight, and are also seen as ideal opportunities for executives to network.

Meanwhile, Google (GOOG.O), Apple (AAPL.O), Facebook (FB.O) and other big technology companies operate private buses to shuttle dozens of employees at a time from their homes in San Francisco to offices in Silicon Valley, a 50-mile trip. Those buses carry about 17,000 passengers a day back and forth, according to the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency.

Tim Horner, a managing director at Kroll and a specialist in security consulting, said corporations organizing major sales events and other employee gatherings should consider a host of travel-related risks beyond flights.

Some US companies sending employees to the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi worried too much about terrorism and not enough about more mundane risks like street crime and medical emergencies, he said.

"You also have to realize that this type of tragedy, as horrific it is, is very infrequent," Horner said of the Malaysian airliner loss. "This is not something that occurs with any great frequency."
 
Are you saying the CIA is behind this?

I thought you were accusing the Chinese of stealing the scientists?

:confused:

Nope ... the CIA hasn't used Air America in quite a while ... but those runways are still there. No control towers either.
 
Stein does have a point ... I haven't read anything on this other than what has been posted here ... BUT ... if 20 specialists that work for DoD were on it....
Do you have a link that says they work for DoD?
 
I'm not going to read thru that entire patent. Tell us what you think is so interesting about it.

He isn't just a number cruncher for his employer. He helped invent a radiation detector.

Another thing that is interesting .. is someone like me could look up his info from clear across the globe .. so, don't you think an intelligence officer would be quite capable of finding out that info before he boarded the flight?
 
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