Aftermath of Hurricane Katrina

*standing ovation* finally, someone with a lick of sense speaks up!
 
spin spin spin all you want but the BUCK stops with the President, period! The aid took what 3, 4 days AFTER the hurricane made a mincemeat out of the Gulf Coast.

You VOTED for Bush and now look at what your leader has done during the past week. Didn't I tell you to LOOK at the pictures that were taken on the day Katrina hit town? Is this COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVE and CHRISTIAN that George Walker Bush is showing America in her hour of need?

When the real death toll surfaces in the aftermath of Katrina,after NOLA is drained, mark my words, the Presidency of George Walker Bush is OVER. Karl Rove CAN"T SPIN his way out of the Katrina mess unlike he can with the Iraq mess and 9/11.

Also mark my words, Katrina makes 9/11 so insignificant with the devastation of the Gulf Coast, and the needless death of a LOT people.


What's more EMBARRASSING is compare the response of what George Bush did as Governor of Texas during the Del Rio flood of 1998 and Katrina as President:

http://www.cnn.com/WEATHER/9808/25/texas.flooding.01/

National Guard helping rescue Texas flood victims

More rain forecast
August 25, 1998
Web posted at: 10:57 a.m. EDT (1457 GMT)

DEL RIO, Texas (CNN) -- The National Guard has been called in to help rescue people trapped by deadly flooding in Del Rio, Texas, and to search for the missing.

Gov. George W. Bush has sent 150 Guardsmen, 25 trucks and nine Blackhawk helicopters to join the rescue effort. At least seven people were killed as floodwaters swept through Del Rio early Monday. As many as 30 others are missing.

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Emergency shelters were quickly set up at schools and churches in this town of 34,000. By late Monday the civic center became the main gathering spot for displaced residents as the American Red Cross provided hundreds of people with food, water, clothes, blankets and cots.
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and Clinton's FEMA director, James Witt did a GOOD job compared to that ex horse-show judge under Bush, Michael Brown.


and oh BTW tell me how many a GOOD percentage of the LA National Guard is in IRAQ fighting an illegal and immoral WAR when they could have been HERE in Louisiana to assist with the Katrina disaster!
 
sablescort said:
and oh BTW tell me how many a GOOD percentage of the LA National Guard is in IRAQ fighting an illegal and immoral WAR when they could have been HERE in Louisiana to assist with the Katrina disaster!
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illegal? How?
 
Yada yada yada, I see your lips flapping, but I don’t hear a word you’re sayin….
You VOTED for Bush and now look at what your leader has done during the past week.
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Okay, let’s look….http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/hurricane/
On September 3, 2005, President Bush Ordered The Department Of Defense To Deploy Additional Active Duty Forces To The Region. Over the next 24 to 72 hours, more than 7,000 additional active duty troops will arrive in the affected areas. Right now there are more than 21,000 National Guard troops operating in affected areas, with more on the way. In addition to these National Guard forces, the Department of Defense has already deployed more than 4,000 active duty forces to assist in search and recovery, and provide logistical and medical support. The priority is to restore and maintain law and order, and assist in recovery and evacuation efforts. The enormity of the task requires more resources and more troops.
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The President Traveled To The Hurricane Devastated Gulf Coast States. President Bush visited areas of Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana affected by the enormous devastation of Hurricane Katrina. A vast coastline of towns and communities has been flattened; one of our great cities is submerged. The human costs are incalculable. The President surveyed the destruction and spoke with victims of Katrina to express the nation's condolences for their loss. The President also thanked those working to aid in the recovery effort.
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the President declared states of emergency in Texas and Arkansas to help deliver federal assistance to those in need. For the latest details on the Federal response effort, please visit www.dhs.gov.
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President Bush Signed A $10.5 Billion Emergency Supplemental To Support Hurricane Katrina Disaster Relief Efforts.
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FEMA Is Moving Resources And Supplies Into The Hardest Hit Areas As Quickly As Possible. To date, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has deployed more than 50 Disaster Medical Assistance Teams, more than 25 Urban Search and Rescue task forces, eight swift water rescue teams, and two Incident Support Teams. FEMA is also working to deliver water, ice, meals, medical supplies, generators, tents, and tarps. There are currently more than 1,700 trucks which have been mobilized to move these supplies into position.
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The Federal Government Is Working To Help Relocate Those Displaced By The Hurricane. Those in New Orleans who were taking shelter in the Superdome are being moved to the Astrodome in Houston, and FEMA is working to provide tents and shelter. In addition, the Departments of Housing and Urban Development, Agriculture, and Health and Human Services (HHS) are working with local communities to provide help to those who have been displaced from their homes.
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The Energy Department Is Working To Restore Electricity To Affected Areas. The Energy Department has deployed personnel and is working with local power companies, local authorities, and state authorities to help get electricity functioning. The Energy Department is also taking steps to ensure the repair and continuity of oil and gas pipelines that may have been affected by power outages.
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The Department Of Defense Is Moving Military Resources Into The Gulf States To Aid In Rescue And Recovery. Eight Navy ships have moved into the area with water, food, medicine, hospital facilities, berthing, and more. DOD has responded to all FEMA requests and is providing logistical help, including helicopters, activation of air stations in strategic areas, and strategic lift support.
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The United States Coast Guard Is Conducting Search And Rescue. The Coast Guard has rescued and assisted thousands of people in the affected areas, and its efforts will continue until all those at risk are safe.
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Now then, what have YOU done to help alleviate the situation in New Orleans?
 
sablescort said:
...What's more EMBARRASSING is compare the response of what George Bush did as Governor of Texas during the Del Rio flood of 1998 and Katrina as President:
"Gov. George W. Bush has sent 150 Guardsmen, 25 trucks and nine Blackhawk helicopters to join the rescue effort. "
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Thank you for supporting my point. It is the Governor who is responsible for his/her own state.
 
*giggles* nothin slow abt Reba.

I must say I am pleased to see how much our entire nation has pitched in. I was honestly concerned at first, but now it is more obvious than ever that we truly are UNITED states.
 
Its outrageous how some of the Liberal pundits are reacting to all this. They are actually trying to convince people that the hurricane was President Bush's fault. A local talk show host, Leon Grey, the other say, desperately pointed out "notice that the hurricane missed Texas." And while listening to the Majority Report today, Janeane Garafalo was saying outright it was all Bush's fault. In fact, she yelled it several times. I don't think partisan politics is going to help evacuees get back on their feet, and rebuild New Orleans.
 
My pointview is...

State of Louisiana mayor city cannot authorzate school bus can release and to get recuse people few days before happending hurriance arrival but have not made action waited for hearing STOOOPID BUSH respond... Have Bush respond to Mayor city state of louisiana quicker ?? No... Bush has been gone for his pleasure..... few days until Oh oppise... Bush respond them.. Dohhh Ohh okay.. sure Evaulate time to go during frigg'n LAST MINUTES noticed by NIGHT!!! So Is that good time for them evaulate quicker.. How many popluation in New Orleans ??? Bush is part of responbile being STUPID!

Actually I do agree w/ sablescort's comment.. look the written letter which it's seriouis formal letter by Through:
Regional Director
FEMA Region VI
800 North Loop 288
Denton, Texas 76209

*whistle*

look uglier bad on BUSH's face!!! It's time paint Bush's face..

Mayor of city has no choice and made their descion without Bush permission... He did great effort work hard and trying to help everyones recuse but look not good.. Not their fault... *pointing finger to BUSH* what heck he doing for few days lately????

*hmmmmm*

By the way, Here's another hurriance is coming on the way but what bush will do their action ??? I advise you better watch BUSH's effort do job well ??? You will realized who he is ???
 
E. Coli has been reported in New Orleans and that ain't a good thing!
 
EVE... look carefully listen...

(Your Quote: Okay, let’s look….http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/hurricane/
Quote:
On September 3, 2005, President Bush Ordered The Department Of Defense To Deploy Additional Active Duty Forces To The Region. Over the next 24 to 72 hours, more than 7,000 additional active duty troops will arrive in the affected areas. Right now there are more than 21,000 National Guard troops operating in affected areas, with more on the way. In addition to these National Guard forces, the Department of Defense has already deployed more than 4,000 active duty forces to assist in search and recovery, and provide logistical and medical support. The priority is to restore and maintain law and order, and assist in recovery and evacuation efforts. The enormity of the task requires more resources and more troops.)
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Don't dare you inslut Sablort... includes you have flapping lip word already!!!!
YOu believed BUSH's side...

What Bush did prevouis before SEPT 3RD... WHEN HURRIANCE HIT AND ARRIVE ON NEW ORLEANS PROPERTY??? Not day of Sept 3rd.. it's before that Sept 3rd..

Bush would say.. Oh oppise... doesn't want show his true colors.. so-so late annocement on sept 3rd.. Go ahead evluation.. oh geez.. give me break..

Look million people are already dead... or starvation or dehyration too...
Oh please give me break... Really you have smart enough? Sure Sure... :sure:

But you have not looked at people are suffered and pain truly pissed off w/BUSH.. lately?? Have you try talk vitcims who live in N.Orleans ??? I doubt you avoid it!
 
Bullym0m said:
EVE... look carefully listen...



Don't dare you inslut Sablort... includes you have flapping lip word already!!!!
YOu believed BUSH's side...

What Bush did prevouis before SEPT 3RD... WHEN HURRIANCE HIT AND ARRIVE ON NEW ORLEANS PROPERTY??? Not day of Sept 3rd.. it's before that Sept 3rd..

Bush would say.. Oh oppise... doesn't want show his true colors.. so-so late annocement on sept 3rd.. Go ahead evluation.. oh geez.. give me break..

Look million people are already dead... or starvation or dehyration too...
Oh please give me break... Really you have smart enough? Sure Sure... :sure:

But you have not looked at people are suffered and pain truly pissed off w/BUSH.. lately?? Have you try talk vitcims who live in N.Orleans ??? I doubt you avoid it!
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With all due respect, BullyMom, Eve has a right to take issue with him. In fact, she has a right to take issue with anyone who may not have experienced hurricanes or an evacuation for one. I have.

Since I moved to FL in 1998, I have evacuated for at least three hurricanes. I've also weathered at least three more tropical storms. I live in the Florida Keys, which is below sea level like New Orleans is. The difference between here and there is, OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT developed an evacuation plan. When a storm threatens, we are TOLD to leave! We not given an option in the matter. If people refuse to do so, they are asked to give the name of their next of kin, so someone can be notified in case of death. That might sound gruesome, but that's reality if you live in a hurricane prone area. Lousiana should have been prepared, and they weren't. That is on THEM.

Eve is RIGHT! It is NOT the Federal Governments fault. It's on Lousiana's local government, and they DROPPED THE BALL! Now they expect the Federal Government to bail them out? I don't think so!

Lousiana did NOT have an evacuation plan. Why not? Louisiana didn't follow protocol for asking for aid. Why not? The mayor is turning down aid. Why? People affected by the floods are refusing certain military style foods. Why?

I am NOT saying that there aren't problems with the Federal Government's response. There is. There's a problem with how donations are being accepted, but a good bit of the blame for this belongs on Louisiana's apathy before and after the storm. NOT THE FEDS!!
 
Oceanbreeze said:
With all due respect, BullyMom, Eve has a right to take issue with him. In fact, she has a right to take issue with anyone who may not have experienced hurricanes or an evacuation for one. I have.

Since I moved to FL in 1998, I have evacuated for at least three hurricanes. I've also weathered at least three more tropical storms. I live in the Florida Keys, which is below sea level like New Orleans is. The difference between here and there is, OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT developed an evacuation plan. When a storm threatens, we are TOLD to leave! We not given an option in the matter. If people refuse to do so, they are asked to give the name of their next of kin, so someone can be notified in case of death. That might sound gruesome, but that's reality if you live in a hurricane prone area. Lousiana should have been prepared, and they weren't. That is on THEM.

Eve is RIGHT! It is NOT the Federal Governments fault. It's on Lousiana's local government, and they DROPPED THE BALL! Now they expect the Federal Government to bail them out? I don't think so!

Lousiana did NOT have an evacuation plan. Why not? Louisiana didn't follow protocol for asking for aid. Why not? The mayor is turning down aid. Why? People affected by the floods are refusing certain military style foods. Why?

I am NOT saying that there aren't problems with the Federal Government's response. There is. There's a problem with how donations are being accepted, but a good bit of the blame for this belongs on Louisiana's apathy before and after the storm. NOT THE FEDS!!
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atta girl! :gpost:
 
OK - people read this again -
C.C.Sinned said:
Ok...first things FIRST! STOP POINTING FUCKIN FINGERS!!!! I keep reading all these emails and posts about how the Bush administration has failed in regard to Katrina..... WHAT??? Bush failed??? WTF? (OK, I'm about to offend the shit out of some people so if you can't handle the TRUTH, STOP READING NOW!!!!) Why is no one stating the absolute truth about what really happened down there? First... EVERYONE was told to GET THE FUCK OUT!!! EVEN if you have no where to go..JUST GET OUT!!! Why do I keep hearing about people getting rescued who say (in shitty english I might add) "We wuz thinkin weze could ride dis one heya out....we'ze wuz wrong". And you know that a shitload of those lower class people stayed behind because they ABSOLUTELY planned on looting after Katrina passed. Not all, but some.

90% of the responsibility here falls on the LOCAL government.How come the local government wasnt prepared for this? Why didnt the local government use school busses and city busses to evacuate those who couldn't afford or were too old or sick to get out on their own. (Interesting fact... someone counted and there are 210 school buses under water). Why did the mayor not call on the 10,000 guard members THE NEXT DAY???? I'll tell you why. There is no leadership down there. The first line of defense in a situation like this is local, then state, THEN FEDERAL!

Oh and how about all those New Orleans cops that handed in their badges and quit? How come thats not being reported? Why are idiots shooting at rescue helicopters and boats??? Why are stupid black women throwing away MRE's? (Meals Ready to Eat) And yes, that DID happen. So your poor ass who didn't evacuate is too fucking good for the food that our troops live on over in Iraq? And yeah, Ive eaten those before when I was in the Air Force, they are not that bad. So this ignorant bitch is crying how she hasn't eaten in days, and when they hand her an MRE, she THROWS IT AWAY!?!?!?!? If I was there, I would've told the bitch she can starve for all I care.

Ok..next.. why are minorities looting shoe's and jewelry and dvd's? Food I can understand, but come on...lets call a spade a spade! If you're caught looting for anything else than food, you should be shot. Point blank. In the head. And...if you shoot at a rescue vehicle, you should be tortured, then shot....and no, I'm not joking.

This is how it works people. When a disaster like this occurs, local government is supposed to act. They had no plan. They had 40 years to plan for this and they did nothing. No Levy improvements, no evacuation plan, and the superdome was their only fucking shelter? Thats it??? And why was the Mayor on the news CURSING about busses when there are 210 of them underwater that THEY had control of? Hmmm I guess hindsight is 20/20 huh? If your City is BELOW sea level and and you are that close to a river, lake, and the Gulf, dontchya think you might kinda wanna have some kind of plan in place for something that is bound to happen? This is not Bush's fault. Next after local government, comes the state. They are the next level of response for this type of catastrophe. Where were they? What did they do? What was there plan? (wow, thats alot of questions with no answers) Ok, last....Federal...thats where Bush steps in. Bush steps in and shit starts to get done. IT SHOULD HAVE been started already before Bush got there. If the local government was anything like Rudy Guliani (who will be our next president by the way) this would be a completely different situation then what we have now.

Ok.... let's just look at this:
1. Local Gov't should have evacuated everyone they could (didn't happen)
2. Katrina hits
3. Local Gov't calls for support from national guard (which didn't happen)
4. State asks local Gov't what they need (didn't happen)
5. Federal Gov't steps in and ASSISTS and sends relief money (happened)
see my point?


People, if you're going to point fingers, point them south where the blame really lies. The LOCAL government is at fault here. THEY HAD NO PLAN. With that being said, I really hope people get their shit together down there and I wish them the best. Now...Im going to make a prediction here. That entire local government is going to be replaced and you probably wont hear too much about it when it happens. Why? Because the media loves to bash Bush.
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Bush is atop man of this country, we depend on him to help us and I do not see him help those people for first 24 hours aftermath. For this he is responsble for many deaths. He already announced state of emergency before Katrina hit US soil. It does not matter which state but the soil is belong to US. US govt have buses but they did not use them to evacuation those people neither. So therefore it is both states of La, Miss, and US govt are responsible for those deaths.

I am not listening to no more republicans blame democrats nor deomcrats blame republicans for this whole mess. Teach us lesson? no it was a freak and it still freak us all out. None of us want to deal with it so now it is time for us to be act alike mature. Time for us to move on and help those people. America need to heal and find a way to bond us together as union, not divide.
 
I saw a video of deaf evautee at cnn site but i cant get link so you have to go there

click browse/search that is right next to watch free video in green box. Once that pop up (this require flash player) type Deaf in search box on top right corner and hit arrow blue dot it will show up that say: Deaf evacuee explains escape (1:16)

there a few deafies group hanging out and one of them explain how he escape and he hasnt heard anything from his mom.
 
jazzy said:
Bush is atop man of this country, we depend on him to help us...
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That is part of the problem; everyone is too "dependent" and not taking the initiative.

... US govt have buses but they did not use them to evacuation those people neither.
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Actually, the US govt does NOT have a fleet of buses standing by just to evacuate people all over the country. The mayor DID have a fleet of school buses that could have been used. But the mayor did NOT use them.
 
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