Actress Lindsay Lohan is BUSTED!! For violate probation

[AlleyCat]

When I used to practice real estate, I had to keep up with 30 hours of continuing Ed every year, and real tests were administered with that. No convenient slipping in and out of seminars as Fuzzy suggested.

 

[Audiofuzzy]

A dude that works in an autobody shop cannot be compared to a clinical psychologist. Please, Fuzzy. That is just absurd.

Please, Jillio, again, stop twisting my words into something that is convenient for your won agenda, alright, already?

It was you who implied a car mechanic does NOT need to continue his education
which I merely pointed out he does indeed need to, too,
just the same as the clinical psychologist must his.
It is NOT the same as comparing one profession to the other.

Just the fact that they BOTH must - upgrade.


Since you are not involved in continuing education, then you are in no position to state what the requirements are and what they aren't.

No I am personally not, but I do live in an environment where people who continue theirs live in.
They do attend various activities involved with upgrading their professional standard which sometimes even require travel to another city.

You know what you find when you look behind the curtain? It ain't the wizard!! LOL In this case, we already know that.
He is an entertainer who exploits people. Get over it.

No he is not. You get over it.

Fuzzy

 

[Audiofuzzy]

Yo Fuzzy!! It's better to compare today's teachers to a Clinical Psychiatrist than using an Auto Mechanic in you analogies.

Today's teachers, must take continuing education courses to keep their licensing current. If they don't, they face not having a job or not being able to renew their license. (I am only doing guesswork here based on things I have read and heard, I do not know for fact)


Just my 2 cents.

Yo, Kristina!

Teachers is a whole different breed, yo.

A doctor for example, have certain guidelines how to treat certain disease established once and for all for many many years ago.
If something changes, it's after years an years of studies, clinical trials and what not.
Then the results are published in medical journals, and then the guidelines might change. It take a lot of time.

Teachers, on the other hand deal with various changes practically everyday.
For example today is Twin Towers, tomorrow they are no more.

And I am just scratching the top of the iceberg that is floating way above the water!

Everything is relative, you know?
Some professions require more detailed upgrading, some less
but eventually all of them do- YES, I agree.



The bottom line is, even if Dr Phil hanged up his licence because he didn't fulfill certain requirements anymore,
he DID fulfilled them before, period. Up to that point, he was good.

And what he fulfilled before, it didn't suddenly disappear overnight just because he didn't go do upgrading course or two since.
he might not be able to practice anymore but that doesn't mean he is worthless as clinician psychologist - if he chooses to upgrade,
he will be back to work at once.
To be crystal clear- he is not required to repeat a whole college or uni again.
When you get your diploma, you get it.

tink! tink! - and these are mine

Fuzzy

 

[KristinaB]

Yo, Kristina!

Teachers is a whole different breed, yo.

A doctor for example, have certain guidelines how to treat certain disease established once and for all for many many years ago.
If something changes, it's after years an years of studies, clinical trials and what not.
Then the results are published in medical journals, and then the guidelines might change. It take a lot of time.

Teachers, on the other hand deal with various changes practically everyday.
For example today is Twin Towers, tomorrow they are no more.

And I am just scratching the top of the iceberg that is floating way above the water!

Everything is relative, you know?
Some professions require more detailed upgrading, some less
but eventually all of them do- YES, I agree.



The bottom line is, even if Dr Phil hanged up his licence because he didn't fulfill certain requirements anymore,
he DID fulfilled them before, period. Up to that point, he was good.

And what he fulfilled before, it didn't suddenly disappear overnight just because he didn't go do upgrading course or two since.
he might not be able to practice anymore but that doesn't mean he is worthless as clinician psychologist - if he chooses to upgrade,
he will be back to work at once.
To be crystal clear- he is not required to repeat a whole college or uni again.
When you get your diploma, you get it.

tink! tink! - and these are mine

Fuzzy

Personally - Dr. Phil is a worthless quack and not worthy of any mention anywhere except on walls in prison toilets.

 

[Oceanbreeze]

Here's a fact to think about ...

We would'nt even be discussing Dr Phill in this thread had it not been for Oprah deeming him the next, great... whatever. Basically, she took him under her wing and voila', he had his own show produced by her production company, I believe. I feel the same way about Dr Oz and Suzy Ormann. Can't stand any of them, and, guess who they ALL have a connection to... Oprah!

Ugh!


But, back to Dr Phil, that should give you a clue to his credentials right there.

 

[Audiofuzzy]

yeah, it's true Oprah helped to launch career of many people but that doesn't mean it is a bad thing.

Dr Oz educates America how to get off their butts, their coaches, start to exercise,
encourage to throw away all this junk food and start eating healthy veggies, fruit, whole wheat and what not,
explains the basic education what a healthy lifestyle is,
- how is that a bad thing, I don't know?


Suze Orman, you may like her or not but also she what she does
she teaches people how to be smart with money -
how not to waste your money on what you want but what you NEED, and how to invest smartly.

neither of them is infinite God given genius, I agree, not everybody has to love them, yes,
but it's non- disputable that what they do does benefit hordes of people otherwise clueless about these things.

I don't understand this obsession with Oprah - she had her own show for 25 years,
she was rather bound to launch separate careers from her own discoveries...


Fuzzy

 

[posts from hell]

Fuzzy, I find it funny that you're going leaps and bounds to defend this.....

And you skipped my previous post in this thread

2+2=4.

 

[Jiro]

I understood your point from the beginning. Clearly this guy has problems. My point still remains though. He was desperate.

Does it make it okay? No. It does provide a bit of perspective though.

does what make what okay?

 

[Audiofuzzy]

Fuzzy, I find it funny that you're going leaps and bounds to defend this.....

And you skipped my previous post in this thread

I don't see your other post anywhere??

and when I believe in something, I believe in something...

Fuzzy

 

[posts from hell]

I don't see your other post anywhere??

and when I believe in something, I believe in something...

Fuzzy

I believe you...

 

[VamPyroX]

*shakes head in disgust*

She never changes. :roll:

Here's a quote from one article...

'She is supposed to be an actress from what I hear,' Sautner said.

It has gotten to a point where people have forgotten who she used to be. When a celebrity's original role is eventually forgotten due to their bad lifestyle, then that's not a good sign.

Looks like her probation officer is biased.

 

[jillio]

Please, Jillio, again, stop twisting my words into something that is convenient for your won agenda, alright, already?

I'm not twisting your words, Fuzzy. I am quoting you. Perhaps you need to choose your words more carefully. Or better yet, stop attempting to present yourself as an expert in areas where your knowlege is so lacking.

It was you who implied a car mechanic does NOT need to continue his education
which I merely pointed out he does indeed need to, too,
just the same as the clinical psychologist must his.
It is NOT the same as comparing one profession to the other.

Mechanics are not licensed. They may have certification in a particular area, meaning they attended a class or two, or at the best, a year. There is a difference between licensing and certification, and if you possessed either, you would realize that. Additionally, there are no legal requirements for a mechanic, or back to your original comparison, a auto body repair person, to have any number of CE credits per year to maintain that certification. It is a one time thing, like a high school diploma.
Just the fact that they BOTH must - upgrade.


Since you are not involved in continuing education, then you are in no position to state what the requirements are and what they aren't.

No I am personally not, but I do live in an environment where people who continue theirs live in.

So? That confers no expertise on you. I live in an environment where several people have different areas of expertise than my own. Doesn't mean that I get their knowlege or their abilities by osmosis.

They do attend various activities involved with upgrading their professional standard which sometimes even require travel to another city.



No he is not. You get over it.

Fuzzy

Seriously, Fuzzy, if you want to be an expert on something, it would be best if you took it upon yourself to get the education and licensure that would allow you to speak as such.

 

[jillio]

Yo, Kristina!

Teachers is a whole different breed, yo.

A doctor for example, have certain guidelines how to treat certain disease established once and for all for many many years ago.
If something changes, it's after years an years of studies, clinical trials and what not.
Then the results are published in medical journals, and then the guidelines might change. It take a lot of time.

Teachers, on the other hand deal with various changes practically everyday.
For example today is Twin Towers, tomorrow they are no more.

And I am just scratching the top of the iceberg that is floating way above the water!

Everything is relative, you know?
Some professions require more detailed upgrading, some less
but eventually all of them do- YES, I agree.



The bottom line is, even if Dr Phil hanged up his licence because he didn't fulfill certain requirements anymore,
he DID fulfilled them before, period. Up to that point, he was good.

And what he fulfilled before, it didn't suddenly disappear overnight just because he didn't go do upgrading course or two since.
he might not be able to practice anymore but that doesn't mean he is worthless as clinician psychologist - if he chooses to upgrade,
he will be back to work at once.
To be crystal clear- he is not required to repeat a whole college or uni again.
When you get your diploma, you get it.

tink! tink! - and these are mine

Fuzzy

Again, Fuzzy, you are simply showing your ignorance regarding the field of education and the field of medicine. Maybe you'd better stick with auto body repair.

 

[Banjo]

It's mind-blowing that someone would defend someone like Dr. Phil and Dr. Drew for their exploitative practices.

 

[jillio]

yeah, it's true Oprah helped to launch career of many people but that doesn't mean it is a bad thing.

Dr Oz educates America how to get off their butts, their coaches, start to exercise,
encourage to throw away all this junk food and start eating healthy veggies, fruit, whole wheat and what not,
explains the basic education what a healthy lifestyle is,
- how is that a bad thing, I don't know?


Suze Orman, you may like her or not but also she what she does
she teaches people how to be smart with money -
how not to waste your money on what you want but what you NEED, and how to invest smartly.

neither of them is infinite God given genius, I agree, not everybody has to love them, yes,
but it's non- disputable that what they do does benefit hordes of people otherwise clueless about these things.

I don't understand this obsession with Oprah - she had her own show for 25 years,
she was rather bound to launch separate careers from her own discoveries...


Fuzzy

You know Fuzzy, if you want to practice hero worship, you need to find someone worthy of it instead of choosing easy targets from the television set. There are many people out there that do so much more good than any of the people you are wasting your admiration on. If you want to admire an entertainer, fine, but admire them because they entertain. Stop trying to attribute demigod qualities to entertainers.

 

[Audiofuzzy]

Mechanics are not licensed. They may have certification in a particular area, meaning they attended a class or two, or at the best, a year. There is a difference between licensing and certification, and if you possessed either, you would realize that. Additionally, there are no legal requirements for a mechanic, or back to your original comparison, a auto body repair person, to have any number of CE credits per year to maintain that certification. It is a one time thing, like a high school diploma.

sweetheart, in all your desperate attempt at discredit my opinion at all cost,
you are forgetting about one thing.
as insignificant as it may look, a humble car mechanic
-(and just for the record, a car mechanic does not make dents in the car BODY, if anything he fixes them)

hold your very life in your hands.

You wouldn't want to have a bad one fix your car, would you?

So, perhaps a humble car mechanic with his mere, ok, CERTIFICATE
is not the quite the same profile as the mighty, educated clinical psychologist
nevertheless he, too is important in some way since how he fixes your car depends your safety and life.

Sorry if this little fact escaped your attention..

Perhaps you can stop now blowing things out of proportion with your "important big words",
since they don't have anything with the thread subject anyway, hmm?

last but not least,
are you really that petty that you are going to squabble over the word "license" now?
this is beyond ridiculous...

Fuzzy

 

[jillio]

sweetheart, in all your desperate attempt at discredit my opinion at all cost,
you are forgetting about one thing.
as insignificant as it may look, a humble car mechanic
-(and just for the record, a car mechanic does not make dents in the car BODY, if anything he fixes them)

You need to read a little more carefully. No where did I say an auto body guy PUT dents in a car. I said he FIXES dents in car.

hold your very life in your hands.

Yeah....you are really reaching now. If that is so true, why is it that they don't have to have advanced education and be licensed? Come on, Fuzzy. You are just being silly now.
You wouldn't want to have a bad one fix your car, would you?

So, perhaps a humble car mechanic with his mere, ok, CERTIFICATE
is not the quite the same profile as the mighty, educated clinical psychologist
nevertheless he, too is important in some way since how he fixes your car depends your safety and life.

No one said he wasn't important. I said your comparison of the two was absurd. Big difference.
Sorry if this little fact escaped your attention..

Perhaps you can stop now blowing things out of proportion with your "important big words",
since they don't have anything with the thread subject anyway, hmm?

You are the one that brought Dr. Phil and Dr. Drew into it. Accept responsibility.

last but not least,
are you really that petty that you are going to squabble over the word "license" now?
this is beyond ridiculous...

I am not squabbling over the word license. A license is a license and confers responsibility and accountability. A certificate is not a license, and it simply says that you attended a course or two. No squabble about it.

The only thing that is ridiculous is that you keep attempting to justify your comparison between a auto body repairman and a doctor.

 

[Banjo]

this is beyond ridiculous...

You are the one being ridiculous.

 

[Audiofuzzy]

You are the one that brought Dr. Phil and Dr. Drew into it. Accept responsibility.

Except when I did that, I expressed my opinion about them in relation with Lindsay, and drug addiction, and public education on the subject.

You and others simply bashed and disrespected them, to which I protested.

What amazes me Jillio, the discussion was quite civil until you entered the picture... but how is that new.

Fuzzy

 

[jillio]

Except when I did that, I expressed my opinion about them in relation with Lindsay, and drug addiction, and public education on the subject.

You and others simply bashed and disrespected them, to which I protested.

What amazes me Jillio, the discussion was quite civil until you entered the picture... but how is that new.

Fuzzy

I wasn't the first one to bash Dr. Phil. I just pointed out that you were wrong when you stated that he was a licensed psychologist. And since neither one of them can treat Lindsay, they are not pertinent to the discussion.

The discussion is still civil. People have simply expressed their opinions regarding entertainers being represented as something they aren't. Reminds me of the old commercial: "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV." LOL