About this Deaf Culture thing...

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Bottesini: you are GENUIS! Zombies don't have brains.

Relax in your Rocking chair with 2 pots of green tea and smile.

Prof SKY sends your herd of sleeping hounds 2 meows.

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drphil said:
Bottesini: you are GENUIS! Zombies don't have brains.

Relax in your Rocking chair with 2 pots of green tea and smile.

Prof SKY sends your herd of sleeping hounds 2 meows.

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07
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Thank you drphil. Tell Prof SKY hi from the dogs. I am drinking water tonight . Even better and cheaper than tea.

Try not to get too upset with everybody. It is ok if you like your life with dancing and don't want to do deaf bowling.
 
drphil said:
Bottesini: you are GENUIS! Zombies don't have brains.

Relax in your Rocking chair with 2 pots of green tea and smile.

Prof SKY sends your herd of sleeping hounds 2 meows.

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07
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So, you are a Zombie? That explains a lot.:wave: But that is a whole other culture. This thread is about Deaf Culture.
 
I guess that's me, too. I don't think of myself as deaf, because with my hearing aids, I hear.
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Someone recently asked me if I was deaf (using sign language) and I said no. But, I tell people I'm "going deaf" when I take my hearing aids out. I know I'm deaf, but I don't think of myself as deaf...does that make sense?
 
I am inclined to think that drphil is neither naive or dimwitted, but likes to challenge and debate in his own special style.
 
LoveBlue said:
Someone recently asked me if I was deaf (using sign language) and I said no. But, I tell people I'm "going deaf" when I take my hearing aids out. I know I'm deaf, but I don't think of myself as deaf...does that make sense?
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Sure it does. Knowing you are deaf is an intellectual awareness. Thinking of yourself as deaf is a revision to your self concept, and is more of an emotional and psychological adjustment. It just takes longer. I'd say you are right where you should be at this point.
 
BecLak said:
I am inclined to think that drphil is neither naive or dimwitted, but likes to challenge and debate in his own special style.
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I think that too. He adds fun. I enjoy watching him.
 
Someone recently asked me if I was deaf (using sign language) and I said no. But, I tell people I'm "going deaf" when I take my hearing aids out. I know I'm deaf, but I don't think of myself as deaf...does that make sense?
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Sure, makes complete sense to me.
 
Sorry not a zombie. Completely unaware if "they" have a " special graveyard culture". Note: this is NOT mentioned in Sociology-Canadian perspectives-1980

That is amazing- the movie "Night of the Living Dead" taken as a documentary.

In keeping with Alldeaf.com can a Zombie be "cultural deaf/Deaf/Blind deaf/Hearing? Not to awaken the Undead to find out!

For anyone: can Zombies get Cochlear Implants without having a brain? What has the secret "google sources" advised? Is this known yet in the United States?

Okay Bottesini/BecLak get off the floor from excess Laughter from the latest on Zombies!

To the next "wild one"-what is for breakfast? Right-Zombie bran flakes with organic walnuts/watermelon topped off the something real special-rhino bones!

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07
 
drphil said:
Sorry not a zombie. Completely unaware if "they" have a " special graveyard culture". Note: this is NOT mentioned in Sociology-Canadian perspectives-1980

That is amazing- the movie "Night of the Living Dead" taken as a documentary.

In keeping with Alldeaf.com can a Zombie be "cultural deaf/Deaf/Blind deaf/Hearing? Not to awaken the Undead to find out!

For anyone: can Zombies get Cochlear Implants without having a brain? What has the secret "google sources" advised? Is this known yet in the United States?

Okay Bottesini/BecLak get off the floor from excess Laughter from the latest on Zombies!

To the next "wild one"-what is for breakfast? Right-Zombie bran flakes with organic walnuts/watermelon topped off the something real special-rhino bones!

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07
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That one did make me laugh.
 
Bottesini said:
Thank you drphil. Tell Prof SKY hi from the dogs. I am drinking water tonight . Even better and cheaper than tea.

Try not to get too upset with everybody. It is ok if you like your life with dancing and don't want to do deaf bowling.
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inmate23 said:
Some deaf club have dancing
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My daughter terped for a wedding. The best dancers on the floor were my daughter and the Deaf guy she was dancing with.
 
I must admit, I do not understand much of what drphil says. Maybe it is me, but a lot of it makes no sense and is almost like gibberish for me.

I will refrain from saying anymore about him and will try my best to be more open minded and such.
 
KristinaB said:
I must admit, I do not understand much of what drphil says. Maybe it is me, but a lot of it makes no sense and is almost like gibberish for me.

I will refrain from saying anymore about him and will try my best to be more open minded and such.
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Same here...don't really understand most of what he says
 
KristinaB said:
I must admit, I do not understand much of what drphil says. Maybe it is me, but a lot of it makes no sense and is almost like gibberish for me.

I will refrain from saying anymore about him and will try my best to be more open minded and such.
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shel90 said:
Same here...don't really understand most of what he says
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That is because everything he comes up with is very low context logic oriented. It is a way of thinking many hearing people pride themselves on, and believe it is a very intelligent thing to do -- But it is a learned way of thinking, few people think that way naturally and Deaf Culture and ASL uses high context thinking.

The best way I know to explain the idiotcy of low context thinking is to take something I learned when I was first learning how to write fiction.

A reasonable person using high context thinking knows that when you look up you tilt your head back and roll your eyes upward so you can see the top of a building.

Thus to a high context person the sentence, "He raised his eyes to the roof of the building." makes perfect sense. A high context thinking person may even reply, "How else is he going to see what is on the roof of the building?"

However a low context thinker is horrified by the sentence. Why? To them you "raise" something by picking it up with your hands. You raise something to the roof by placing it on the roof with your hands. To a low context thinker logic dictates no other way of interpreting the sentence -- Thus a writer for the general public should NEVER use it. This type of thinking works because of the way the spoken word works and how words are defined.

ASL on the other hand allows you to take your two "F" handshapes, use them as your eyes looking all around the street -- Allows you to raise your hands that are established as your eyeballs up to the roof of the building that has already been placed there, and suddenly explode in surprise.

Totally appalling the low context, logic oriented, hearing person who does not see the same image we do.

Hopefully this will help you, maybe even him. Even though we are all writing English, drphil is using a different language than we are.
 
It is also called concrete thinking, and I do it too. It is also a feature of autistic and schizophrenic thinking.

It come naturally to me from Asperger's syndrome. Which is why I was surprised when drphil said he has no diagnosis on the autism spectrum

But the written sentence about raising eyes is much different than ASL where you see the whole action.
 
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KristinaB said:
I must admit, I do not understand much of what drphil says. Maybe it is me, but a lot of it makes no sense and is almost like gibberish for me.

I will refrain from saying anymore about him and will try my best to be more open minded and such.
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shel90 said:
Same here...don't really understand most of what he says
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That is because everything he comes up with is very low context logic oriented. It is a way of thinking many hearing people pride themselves on, and believe it is a very intelligent thing to do -- But it is a learned way of thinking, few people think that way naturally and Deaf Culture and ASL uses high context thinking.

The best way I know to explain the idiotcy of low context thinking is to take something I learned when I was first learning how to write fiction.

A reasonable person using high context thinking knows that when you look up you tilt your head back and roll your eyes upward so you can see the top of a building.

Thus to a high context person the sentence, "He raised his eyes to the roof of the building." makes perfect sense. A high context thinking person may even reply, "How else is he going to see what is on the roof of the building?"

However a low context thinker is horrified by the sentence. Why? To them you "raise" something by picking it up with your hands. You raise something to the roof by placing it on the roof with your hands. To a low context thinker logic dictates no other way of interpreting the sentence -- Thus a writer for the general public should NEVER use it. This type of thinking works because of the way the spoken word works and how words are defined.

ASL on the other hand allows you to take your two "F" handshapes, use them as your eyes looking all around the street -- Allows you to raise your hands that are established as your eyeballs up to the roof of the building that has already been placed there, and suddenly explode in surprise.

Totally appalling the low context, logic oriented, hearing person who does not see the same image we do.

Hopefully this will help you, maybe even him. Even though we are all writing English, drphil is using a different language than we are.
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You nailed it. Totally agree.
 
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