3 year old with cochears

[faire_jour]

Yeah, riiiiiiight.

What? You don't know deaf people who have implanted their children? I know several, including one here in Utah and another at CID. As well as a half a dozen on CI Circle.

 

[Beowulf]

What? You don't know deaf people who have implanted their children? I know several, including one here in Utah and another at CID.

No I don't. But I did not search far and wide for them the way you apparently did. They are such a tiny minority anyway.

 

[AlleyCat]

Exactly. Every single post started with "make sure the setting are right and that the CI is NOT causing pain", and that the first line of defense needs to always make sure nothing is wrong with the equipment or settings BEFORE taking any other action.

And that's bad, why ?

 

[faire_jour]

And that's bad, why ?

It's not. My point was that we are being accused of advocating forcing a child to wear something that is hurting him, when AGAIN and again we expressly said "make sure it is NOT hurting him".

 

[AlleyCat]

Exactly. Every single post started with "make sure the setting are right and that the CI is NOT causing pain", and that the first line of defense needs to always make sure nothing is wrong with the equipment or settings BEFORE taking any other action.

I'm going to quote this again. We all wanted to make sure the CI wasn't causing any pain. If you want to view any posts in this thread as anything else, then that's your thing. It's too bad I can't hear what a broken record sounds like.

 

[faire_jour]

I'm going to quote this again. We all wanted to make sure the CI wasn't causing any pain. If you want to view any posts in this thread as anything else, then that's your thing. It's too bad I can't hear what a broken record sounds like.

No, PFH and Jillio both claimed that we were advocating forcing a child to wear a device that was hurting him. We stated again and again that we do NOT want that.

 

[Beowulf]

No, PFH and Jillio both claimed that we were advocating forcing a child to wear a device that was hurting him. We stated again and again that we do NOT want that.

But one need break eggs in order to make omelettes, eh?

 

[deafgal001]

I'm going to quote this again. We all wanted to make sure the CI wasn't causing any pain. If you want to view any posts in this thread as anything else, then that's your thing. It's too bad I can't hear what a broken record sounds like.

broken record , ah, there's not much to hear except to explain that vinyl record keep repeating a word or piece of a music because of a scratch. and it will do this all day long until someone move the needle.

 

[taylorjade.]

Very common. It is also common for them to believe that the kid has to be implanted as early as possible for them to be able to speak. But you know, the CI was never intended to facilitate speech. It's purpose is to assist hearing.

the hospital for sick children in toronto very much so states that children should be implanted as early as possible for them to be able to learn speech.

is it wrong to assume professionals in a hospital for children know what they're talking about?

 

[deafgal001]

the hospital for sick children in toronto very much so states that children should be implanted as early as possible for them to be able to learn speech.

is it wrong to assume professionals in a hospital for children know what they're talking about?

what do you think why they suggest CI?

did you honestly believe we can't speak?

 

[taylorjade.]

what do you think why they suggest CI?

did you honestly believe we can't speak?

there's a difference though, i know of a many people who have said it is often a struggle for them to get hearing people to understand them when they speak because it takes getting used to, and this makes it more difficult to communicate with everyone they encounter, especially when they do not know sign,
although my son is learning sign, if i want him to speak (and if he wants to speak) i think the CI will help him to speak clearly, if that ends up being the route he sticks to.

these conversations always make me feel like i'm being offensive,
but that is really not my intention, so i hope i'm not being offensive and if i am i apologize.

 

[deafgal001]

no, I'm just making sure if I understood you right. yes, some people do have trouble getting them understand them. For me, it is lack of expressing my thoughts and lack of vocabulary. People don't really have trouble understanding what I'm saying unless it is a word I never heard or said before. Then it all come out jumble. I have one CI for about 7 years from now.. it's still a problem for me.

Most tell me that I have a accent and wanted to know where I'm from. I give them the full detail: I'm a 90 db since birth and wore HAs since three. I grew up oral only who learned naturally from other people's speech using speechreading skills.

CI children are not exempt from this problem.

 

[AlleyCat]

there's a difference though, i know of a many people who have said it is often a struggle for them to get hearing people to understand them when they speak because it takes getting used to, and this makes it more difficult to communicate with everyone they encounter, especially when they do not know sign,
although my son is learning sign, if i want him to speak (and if he wants to speak) i think the CI will help him to speak clearly, if that ends up being the route he sticks to.

these conversations always make me feel like i'm being offensive,
but that is really not my intention, so i hope i'm not being offensive and if i am i apologize.

But you are discounting that there is a huge number of deaf people who do NOT have CIs and learned to speak perfectly well. I'm one of them, so I know what I write of. A CI is not necessary for just learning to speak clearly.

 

[taylorjade.]

But you are discounting that there is a huge number of deaf people who do NOT have CIs and learned to speak perfectly well. I'm one of them, so I know what I write of. A CI is not necessary for just learning to speak clearly.

i'm not discounting it, i just really had no idea,
other than my son i havn't had much experience with the deaf community, and he isn't even two yet, so i still have a lot to learn which is another reason i signed up to be a member on here

 

[AlleyCat]

i'm not discounting it, i just really had no idea,
other than my son i havn't had much experience with the deaf community, and he isn't even two yet, so i still have a lot to learn which is another reason i signed up to be a member on here

Welcome to the forum!

I suspect you will find all kinds of interesting things here

 

[faire_jour]

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Very common. It is also common for them to believe that the kid has to be implanted as early as possible for them to be able to speak. But you know, the CI was never intended to facilitate speech. It's purpose is to assist hearing.

the hospital for sick children in toronto very much so states that children should be implanted as early as possible for them to be able to learn speech.

is it wrong to assume professionals in a hospital for children know what they're talking about?

it is so that they can learn to understand spoken language receptively through listening, not neccesarily so that they can form the words themselves.

 

[Bebonang]

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it is so that they can learn to understand spoken language receptively through listening, not neccesarily so that they can form the words themselves.

Will you quit the word "listening"? I am sick of tire of you always wanting your CI daughter to listen especially telling hearing parents to make CI kids to listen. I just don't think it is necessary. Lipreading, yes, but not accurate. Many of us who are profound deaf don't listen (can not pick up the words without visual). It does not matter if we have hearing aids or CIs. So get off the wagon. Geez! :roll:

 

[shel90]

i'm not discounting it, i just really had no idea,
other than my son i havn't had much experience with the deaf community, and he isn't even two yet, so i still have a lot to learn which is another reason i signed up to be a member on here

I am another one...born profoundly deaf bilaterally with dB losses of 110 to 120 and grew up orally without any ASL. I can speak very very well. However, I learned ASL at 25 years old and at 38 years old, it is the primary language of my life now.

 

[shel90]

But, Oddball and you can't know either of those -- motivation or outcome -- for those individuals who choose CIs, can you?

It wouldnt hurt to ask her just in case.

 

[faire_jour]

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it is so that they can learn to understand spoken language receptively through listening, not neccesarily so that they can form the words themselves.

Will you quit the word "listening"? I am sick of tire of you always wanting your CI daughter to listen especially telling hearing parents to make CI kids to listen. I just don't think it is necessary. Lipreading, yes, but not accurate. Many of us who are profound deaf don't listen (can not pick up the words without visual). It does not matter if we have hearing aids or CIs. So get off the wagon. Geez! :roll:

you need to understand that there are plenty of deaf people with CIs, kids and adults, who CAN and DO listen and understand without lipreading. I don't understand why you flat out REFUSE to understand that. I am not making it up and neither are they.