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Fuzzy "I like sun".
Cheri, Angel, Maria, Liebling, : "Oh you don't like moon".
Fuzzy: "No that's not what I said".
C,A,M, L: "yes you did. You never said anything positive about moon only sun, that means you don't like moon".
Cheri": "Fuzzy said in other thread she doesn't like moon, only sun".
Jillio: " You know what "sun" stands for, fuzzy? it's an acronym for "stupid, ugly, nincompoop".
Sadly, this is how the conversation here looks like most of the time.
First of all, ASL is NOT English, it is ASL. ASL is not a written language, it is a manual language. It has no standardized written form.
My point exactly. ASL users mix different grammar and syntax from ASL and mix it with written or spoken English. The more immersed in ASL, the more grammar and syntax of ASL in the way they write. Example - Smithr who wrote about his CI removal.
The more oral and immersed in hearing world also - the better grammar and syntax in written English. Example - Cheri.
Maria, Liebling, Angel- are in between.
If we're going to correct grammar errors, here, the bolded word should be "has" not "have".
True. English IS my SECOND language, self-taught. I am aware I too make quite often grammar mistakes. of course there is an explanation for it - I tend to use grammar from my native language. Nevertheless, my English grammar is closer to official English grammar than of those who mainly communicate via ASL.
Perhaps it is time for you to take care of your own problems with correct grammar before you deign to criticize another's grammar.
Oh, but I didn't CRITICIZE nobody's English.
It is very normal, understandable and expected even that a deaf person, who grew up signing use different syntax and grammar when writing or speaking.
This is
nothing to be ashamed of, or improper about that. I just pointed this out as a factor -THE factor - that complicates communciation between those who grew up "hearing" and those who grew up "signing".
This is absolutely normal, common, understandable thing that simply exist.
Is this what you do? harshly judge others?
First of all I didn't judge no one - I pointed out the differences in how we communicate - you grew up in oral enviroment, and later learned to sign. this is why you write the way you write. I grew up in hearing enviroment, never signed, but in a foreign country - and this is why I write the way I do.
and that complicates our communication, there is no judgement in it - just stating a fact.
Why would I care about one person over many other people who thinks different as you.
Not maybe "care", but at least pay attention. maybe that other person wants to tell you something important?
For instance, I asked my family if I can write in good English,
When and where did I say "BAD English"??? I said ASL English, written English, different English etc. How does that makes it "bad"?
They said of course I do, I even told them what you said about my grammar, and they said whoever thinks otherwise is an idiot.
This is your family. of course they are going to reassure you, and that's how it should be.
besides, I never said your English is "BAD". I said I can tell the way you write you are deaf, or signing. That does not make it "bad" English. In fact I would say your English is better than Angel, Maria, Liebling.
And why I said all that - to make you realise that it looks like you often do not understand what I wrote. And because you don't understand it, you don't know what am I saying. or not saying. and accuse me of things I didn't do.
When someone writes in ASL, they use brief explanation, like "I go store"
If I had time, I would happily search for my prolonged discussion with Deafdyke and others but mainly Deafdyke in 2005 about ASL language and English in general. But I don't. So, please just be assured that I know what ASL is.
Let's see here.........one person makes posts. Six people read those posts, and all six understand them the same way. What is the common variable? The one person making the posts
The variable is - the six people, except maybe one, YOU - have the same written English COMPREHENSION.
that's what the variable is, jill. no wonder they all don't get the point alike.
if you add the consensual reassuring patts on the back instead of listening to what I have to say - the communication disaster continues. sadly.
And you jillio would actually do them better service if you told them the truth.
your are not being quite truthful with your friends.
First of all, ASL is NOT English, it is ASL
Oh? and how do they hand spell a cat? Le Chat? El gato?
I am well aware what ASL is.
Why is it sooo important to you about who understands ASL English, not written English ?
because, sadly, half of my posts are either completely misinterpreted or partially misunderstood. by you as well.
don't you think that good understanding of each other is important?
You are no matched with doctor or lawyer or psychologist or psychiatrist's written skills or grammer.
you might be surpised, but they don't always have perfect grammar or spelling, either
I'm still trying to figure out how a parent who has a deaf kid, but has never, ever learned to sign is supportive of sign language
by your logic - if children are important to me and I support them, I should pop one out every nine months, then. otherwise I am not really supportive, am I, hmm?
I have never denied the implant to my son.
Of course you did, once - the moment you decided against early implanation - the MOST SUCCESSFUL implantation.
No trouble picking up sign later on? I'm rather skeptical of that one.
I believe it's definitely easier to learn gesturing for a late deafened than to learn to hear and speak for the born deaf.
Fuzzy
- he look at us and sign automatic... They were like wow and asked us to teach them how to sign good morning to good night, good day, bye, hallo, eat, drink, execrise... just pick simple word like that... They signed to me... 
You misspelled your English written in some of your posts, Mrs. Know-it-all.
Here is my interpretation post for you... Cheri is total surprised over Rick´s comment for support sign language. 
that included Jillio also since she agrees with us. Hummm....
to AD! Congrats on your new bundle of joy! 
