[Fox News Traitorous and Unpatriotic?] [Navy SEAL's book gives different account ..]

[Reba]

Do you know what National Security means? What happened to Pakistani doctor is not a matter of National Security since it does not pose a threat to America. and he was never asked to spy on Pakistan.

Last time I checked.... Pakistan is not our allies and hasn't been for decades.

and why are you still talking about Pakistani doctor? This thread is not about Pakistani doctor. This thread is about Mark Owen and his book. Feel free to create a new thread about Pakistani doctor.

It does impact on how we will get assistance from other nationals in the future. If they see that America does not honor its commitments, they will be loathe to risk their lives to help us. It can be very detrimental to in-country intelligence.

The same thing happened after we pulled out of Vietnam. It was a disgrace how we abandoned people who had helped us, and left them in the hands of the enemy.

 

[Jiro]

It does impact on how we will get assistance from other nationals in the future. If they see that America does not honor its commitments, they will be loathe to risk their lives to help us. It can be very detrimental to in-country intelligence.

The same thing happened after we pulled out of Vietnam. It was a disgrace how we abandoned people who had helped us, and left them in the hands of the enemy.

Yes I understand but there are plenty of other nationals who don't expect anything in return. Why? They love their country that they're willing to sacrifice their lives for it.

One way or other- That doctor was going to be found and blamed anyway. At least we're flexing our muscle to demand a release for him instead of denying any involvement with him.

 

[saywhatkid]

Read your signature (I see you participating in those threads too).

Not judging. Simple observation. Besides, only Christ is perfect.

 

[rolling7]

"Mark" knew the rules for himself and every soldier. Once he open his mouth to the publisher without authorization, he brought all the trouble upon himself. Be it a death threat our legal issues he can only blame himself. He knew there was a proper way to go about this but he chose to do it his way. The consequences are on him alone and he can blame anyone nor anything else.

 

[Jiro]

"Mark" knew the rules for himself and every soldier. Once he open his mouth to the publisher without authorization, he brought all the trouble upon himself. Be it a death threat our legal issues he can only blame himself. He knew there was a proper way to go about this but he chose to do it his way. The consequences are on him alone and he can blame anyone nor anything else.

the only trouble is Fox News releasing his name to public. how disrespectful and unpatriotic.

 

[Reba]

"Mark" knew the rules for himself and every soldier. Once he open his mouth to the publisher without authorization, he brought all the trouble upon himself. Be it a death threat our legal issues he can only blame himself. He knew there was a proper way to go about this but he chose to do it his way. The consequences are on him alone and he can blame anyone nor anything else.

He's responsible for his actions, yes.

FOX is also responsible for their actions. They aren't excused for what they did.

 

[whatdidyousay!]

It does impact on how we will get assistance from other nationals in the future. If they see that America does not honor its commitments, they will be loathe to risk their lives to help us. It can be very detrimental to in-country intelligence.

The same thing happened after we pulled out of Vietnam. It was a disgrace how we abandoned people who had helped us, and left them in the hands of the enemy.

I have met Vietnam vets and they felt that when they did get home there was no warm welcome from the public. People where protesting the war , I went to one of the protest with my boyfriend that was a Vietnam vet. No one really won in that war and there plenty of protests about the war , the vets did not have the support of the public in the war and did not get the support when they got home. I had clients that where Vietnam vets and it was a disgrace in the kind of care they where getting.

 

[CrazyPaul]

hence..... what Fox News did was traitorous and unpatriotic...

IMO, the author shouldn't have written a book like this if he doesn't want risks involved. Suppose if Fox News didn't announce his name, someone else will. What do you expect? A book's author stays anonymous all the times? Impossible! I am sure that the author will tell you the same thing. I bet he knew that it eventually happened. So what? Move on! Stop crying!

 

[Reba]

IMO, the author shouldn't have written a book like this if he doesn't want risks involved. Suppose if Fox News didn't announce his name, someone else will. What do you expect? A book's author stays anonymous all the times? Impossible! I am sure that the author will tell you the same thing. I bet he knew that it eventually happened. So what? Move on! Stop crying!

None of that excuses FOX for what they did. They are responsible for their own actions.

 

[CrazyPaul]

None of that excuses FOX for what they did. They are responsible for their own actions.

So what? It's not a crime. If Fox News didn't do it, CNN or ABC News might.

 

[Reba]

I have met Vietnam vets and they felt that when they did get home there was no warm welcome from the public. People where protesting the war , I went to one of the protest with my boyfriend that was a Vietnam vet. No one really won in that war and there plenty of protests about the war , the vets did not have the support of the public in the war and did not get the support when they got home. I had clients that where Vietnam vets and it was a disgrace in the kind of care they where getting.

Yes, I know. Hubby and I are both Vietnam era veterans. We were both on active duty in the early '70's. We have lots of friends and relatives who served in Vietnam. Many of our biker group, the Patriot Guard Riders, are Vietnam veterans. That was one of the reasons they participate in the group because they don't ever want to see veterans treated poorly again.

However, that has nothing to do with this topic.

 

[Reba]

So what? It's not a crime. If Fox News didn't do it, CNN or ABC News might.

Still not an excuse.

Do you believe that just because something might not be a crime that it's OK to do it? What about moral responsibility? What about professional ethics? What about good judgment?

 

[CrazyPaul]

Still not an excuse.

Do you believe that just because something might not be a crime that it's OK to do it? What about moral responsibility? What about professional ethics? What about good judgment?

Then he shouldn't have written that book in the first place. He knows the risks. Blame Fox News for big mouthing? I am sure that alot of people want to know who wrote the book so do they have rights to know? YES!

 

[Reba]

Then he shouldn't have written that book in the first place. He knows the risks. Blame Fox News for big mouthing? I am sure that alot of people want to know who wrote the book so do they have rights to know? YES!

Ultimately, FOX is responsible for the decisions that they make.

Guess what? Just because "alot" of people want to know something, it doesn't mean they have the right to know something.

In this Wiki world, people might be used to and expect to have access to everything but there really isn't a right to all information.

 

[rockin'robin]

Then he shouldn't have written that book in the first place. He knows the risks. Blame Fox News for big mouthing? I am sure that alot of people want to know who wrote the book so do they have rights to know? YES!

I'm agreeing...The author of the book would have been found out sooner or later anyway....So pointing the finger at Fox News?....Nah....The buck starts back there....(the author)....

 

[Reba]

I'm agreeing...The author of the book would have been found out sooner or later anyway....So pointing the finger at Fox News?....Nah....The buck starts back there....(the author)....

That's called rationalization; that is, making excuses for wrong decisions and actions.

 

[Jiro]

Then he shouldn't have written that book in the first place. He knows the risks. Blame Fox News for big mouthing? I am sure that alot of people want to know who wrote the book so do they have rights to know? YES!

Many books had pseudonyms for years and the real names were eventually revealed at much later time at their own terms.

When Fox News disregarded Mark Owen's and his family's safety by revealing his real name... that's just wrong on many levels. This guy is a hero. He eliminated one of the most dangerous terrorists in the world and you have no problem with how Fox News treated this hero?

Only Fox News revealed his name and then a few days later, AP posted his name too. Nobody else followed their unpatriotic path. There's something called Code of Ethics. I am extremely disappointed in Fox News. It's troubling that you have no problem with Fox News treating this hero like this. Now this means nobody is going to do business with Fox News since Fox News has extremely poor code of ethics and credibility. That's why CNN and ABC didn't do it.

 

[Jiro]

I'm agreeing...The author of the book would have been found out sooner or later anyway....So pointing the finger at Fox News?....Nah....The buck starts back there....(the author)....

so if you were the boss at Fox News... would you release his name to public?

 

[rolling7]

He's responsible for his actions, yes.

FOX is also responsible for their actions. They aren't excused for what they did.

No excuse needed! He did what he did and it is the responsibility of all of MM, including FOX and A.P., to report it. Otherwise, there is no freedom of the press...only "freedom to tell you what WE want you to know."

 

[Jiro]

No excuse needed! He did what he did and it is the responsibility of all of MM, including FOX and A.P., to report it. Otherwise, there is no freedom of the press...only "freedom to tell you what WE want you to know."

Mark Owen was writing a book to tell us what really happened because the version of the event told by White House was different. White House said Osama bin Laden was armed. Mark Owen said no he wasn't. White House later amended that Osama bin Laden wasn't armed.

And you have no problem with Fox News exposing a hero like that?

You are confused about Freedom of the Press. It protects press only from government. It is responsibility of news agencies to have a decency and code of ethics if their reporting would put someone's live in danger especially family. I see that you have no problem with Fox News being a vicious bully with ZERO regard for anyone's life and puts profits above anybody's life.