[Fox News Traitorous and Unpatriotic?] [Navy SEAL's book gives different account ..]

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My first thought when I read the title was that traitor bitch Jane Fonda
 
Allow me to correct you once again Padawan. This thread is very political. Why would you ask if the author was unpatriotic and a traitor?

The answer is a simple no. He is exercising his rights to Free Speech. But why would he be painted on a portrait as a traitor ... by you?

Possibly because you want all the information leading up to this to be hush hush too .... and, deem the author a traitor in an attempt to censor his book ...

Oh yeah (wink,wink) it isn't political at all :laugh2:

*sigh*

why is this very difficult for you? rolling is the one who said Mark Owen is traitorous and unpatriotic, not me.

This thread is about
But only a day after the New York Times first reported the book was coming out, Fox News reported the author's real name on its website and posted photos of him in combat gear.

don't you think it is traitorous to release his real name to public?
 
You are BLACK-PEDALING real fast!!! The very fact you did not use the Time quote in your OP proves this.
what Time quote?

Congradulations to Fox News and A.P. for doing what responsible news organizations are suppose to do. No, neither is traitorous, they did nothing to harm America nor put American forces at risk, and yes, they are patriotic for keeping the public informed equally.
finally... a post that is relevant to this thread.

:ty: for sharing your thought in this matter. I see that you believe it's patriotic to release a hero's real name to public.
 
what Time quote?

see post #22....it should have been in the OP THAT NYTimes made that request....only you knew until you posted it.


finally... a post that is relevant to this thread.

:ty: for sharing your thought in this matter. I see that you believe it's patriotic to release a hero's real name to public.

In the history of America, several heros have become traitors.
 
You are wrong, as usual.


McChrystal out, Petraeus in - Los Angeles Times

Obama fired McChrystal for making some choice comments about the Obama administration. Obama only wants to hear good things about himself because he is very, very vain.


Let's pretend that bashing Fox News did not start with Obama ... ok? Or, you can completely ignore the intent of your article in the OP, and why blame is being put on FOX for these "leaks" that Obama is being blamed for.

Nice try bro ... :roll:
What possible benefit would Obama have received for unveiling these names? Absolutely none. It is simply the same song and dance routine; if a thread points toward the Right, you simply get it locked. End of discussion.

I find your flagrant political trolling to be a direct infraction of the rules regarding both trolling and posting political threads. If you posted a thread about MSNBC revealing the names of these SEALs, I would not try to link it to Romney?Bush/et al. You are simply trying to get the thread locked. Posts reported. :wave:
 
It is no wonder why this man would be painted as a traitor. He is not a traitor, he is an American no longer serving and is exercising his right to Free Speech. He earned it.

If he had posted your home address publicly, would he be protected under First Amendment? And there is no group of terrorists out to avenge someone's death by killing you. Should it be published? Would you be afraid of some Leftists finding you?

Angry jihadists are far more driven to succeed in their goals.
 
If he had posted your home address publicly, would he be protected under First Amendment? And there is no group of terrorists out to avenge someone's death by killing you. Should it be published? Would you be afraid of some Leftists finding you?

Angry jihadists are far more driven to succeed in their goals.

No, leftists are.


http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/16/n...fer-says-obama-critical-seals-dont-have-guts/
Media Matters senior fellow Eric Boehlert said on Thursday that a group of former Navy SEALS “don’t have guts” after the special forces operators launched a media campaign condemning the Obama administration’s national security leaks.

Taylor responded to Boehlert’s tweet in a phone interview with The Daily Caller and said that his group of special forces operators is “clearly not gutless.”

“We’re clearly not gutless. We’re in the public right now, completely out there,” Taylor said.

In case you have not figured this out yet .... they went public intentionally.
 
Navy SEAL's book gives different account of bin Laden death

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. Navy SEAL who has authored a first-hand account of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden says the al Qaeda leader was shot in the head as he peeked from a bedroom door, an account that diverges from the Obama administration's original description of the incident.

The book, "No Easy Day," due to be published September 4, says bin Laden was unarmed when Navy SEALs found him during the raid on his Pakistan compound, according to a source who read the book, which is due to be released on September 4.

The book's author, writing under the pseudonym "Mark Owen," says bin Laden was looking out from his bedroom door when he was shot in the head, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

In the confused hours after the raid, White House counter-terrorism adviser John Brennan had originally said that bin Laden "was engaged in a firefight" with the Navy SEALs.

The White House amended that account a day later, saying he was not armed but had resisted capture inside an upper-floor bedroom in the compound.

National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor declined comment on the book.

"As President Obama said on the night that justice was brought to Osama bin Laden, 'We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country,'" Vietor said.

Colonel Tim Nye, spokesman for the Pentagon's Special Operations Command (SOCOM), said that he and other Defense Department officials received copies of the book late last week from the publisher, Dutton.

U.S. officials said last week they were surprised by the book, which was not vetted by government agencies to ensure that no secrets were revealed.

Pentagon officials now are reviewing its contents to see if it contains classified information and to determine if further steps can or should be taken against the author, who should have submitted the book for pre-publication review under the terms of his service in the Navy SEALs, Nye said.

Two sources familiar with official U.S. government reporting on the bin Laden raid said it was unsurprising that there were discrepancies between the book's account of how bin Laden was killed and previous official versions.

In any combat situation, participants in the operation would normally come away with different accounts and perceptions of what happened, the sources said.

Officials familiar with the contents of the book questioned whether there was anything significant in it that could be considered classified.

One official who has followed the issue closely said that it could be difficult for authorities to bring legal action against the book's author because the Obama administration has itself released so much detailed information about the bin Laden raid.

Owen said he had no desire to compromise national security in writing the book. It originally was due to be released on the anniversary of the September 11 attacks, but was moved up a week due to high demand, Dutton said.

"NO EASY DAY is a book that I'm proud to have written. My hope is that it gives my fellow Americans a glimpse into how much of an honor it is to serve our country," Owen said in a statement from Dutton.

"It is written with respect for my fellow service members while adhering to my strict desire not to disclose confidential or sensitive information that would compromise national security in any way," he said.

The author now faces threats against his life. An official al Qaeda website last week posted a photograph and the real name of the former Navy commando, calling him "the dog who murdered the martyr Sheikh Osama bin Laden."

One of the sources familiar with the official U.S. account of the bin Laden operation said that as US commandos went up the stairs to the third floor of his hideout, the al Qaeda chief popped his head out of the room where he was hiding, and that commandos shot at him and missed.

This account is not dissimilar, though not identical, to the account now proffered in the new bin Laden book.

Navy SEAL's book gives different account of bin Laden death - Yahoo! News
 
"...released so much detailed information about the raid ...."

Yup.
 
And Yahoo still uses his pseudonym name, even though FoxNews broadcast it world wide. Does this make Yahoo news guilty of a coverup? Are they biased to keep his real name off the article?

This is all I needed to see to support my views that FoxNews was dead wrong to reveal his real name, from your article:
The author now faces threats against his life. An official al Qaeda website last week posted a photograph and the real name of the former Navy commando, calling him "the dog who murdered the martyr Sheikh Osama bin Laden."

By the way, I smell a locked thread real soon. How did you miss the Obama comments? Or was that intentional bias?
 
Read your signature (I see you participating in those threads too). :D
 
"...released so much detailed information about the raid ...."

Yup.

is there something wrong with telling Americans what had transpired? I thought you'd want a transparency from the administration.
 
Owen said he had no desire to compromise national security in writing the book. It originally was due to be released on the anniversary of the September 11 attacks, but was moved up a week due to high demand, Dutton said.

"NO EASY DAY is a book that I'm proud to have written. My hope is that it gives my fellow Americans a glimpse into how much of an honor it is to serve our country," Owen said in a statement from Dutton.

"It is written with respect for my fellow service members while adhering to my strict desire not to disclose confidential or sensitive information that would compromise national security in any way," he said.

The author now faces threats against his life. An official al Qaeda website last week posted a photograph and the real name of the former Navy commando, calling him "the dog who murdered the martyr Sheikh Osama bin Laden."

hence..... what Fox News did was traitorous and unpatriotic...
 
is there something wrong with telling Americans what had transpired? I thought you'd want a transparency from the administration.

Transparency on National Security issues that get our allies charged with treason in their own countries?

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/mccain-romney-path-america/2012/08/29/id/450268
And regarding the new book about the bin Laden raid, the Arizona lawmaker and Navy veteran confirms that the information first released by the White House was false — and says the administration’s “unconscionable” leaks about the raid put lives in danger.

Transparency .... not Propaganda ...




http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/seals-attack-obama-for-politicizing-osama-raid-leaking-intel/

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/16/politics/former-seals-obama/index.html

Through the SEALs, we have learned that Obama was not the one calling the shots in this raid. It was Admiral McRaven.

http://nation.foxnews.com/barack-obama/2012/08/23/obama-botches-rank-top-navy-seal
 
Transparency on National Security issues that get our allies charged with treason in their own countries?

Do you know what National Security means? What happened to Pakistani doctor is not a matter of National Security since it does not pose a threat to America. and he was never asked to spy on Pakistan.

Last time I checked.... Pakistan is not our allies and hasn't been for decades.

and why are you still talking about Pakistani doctor? This thread is not about Pakistani doctor. This thread is about Mark Owen and his book. Feel free to create a new thread about Pakistani doctor.
 
Transparency on National Security issues that get our allies charged with treason in their own countries?

NMX: McCain: Obama Leaks on bin Laden Raid, Security ?Unconscionable?

SEALs Attack Obama For Politicizing Osama Raid, Leaking Intel

Former special forces officers slam Obama over leaks on bin Laden killing - CNN.com

Through the SEALs, we have learned that Obama was not the one calling the shots in this raid. It was Admiral McRaven.

Obama Botches Rank Of Top Navy SEAL... - Barack Obama - Fox Nation

In case you didn't know.... Obama gave a green light to this entire operation. Once the operation is underway, it's not unheard of Admiral or General to manage it for him. Clearly... Admiral McRaven has NO authority to launch a mission in Pakistan. President Obama was given an information in order to green-light an operation to take place in Pakistan without notifying Pakistan military/government in advance. President Obama made that call, not Admiral McRaven.

Dead or Alive. That's all Admiral/General needs to know for a specific scope of authority in this raid. The little details are of no importance to the President. It's left to Admiral/General to handle it once the operation was underway. Why? Plausible Deniability. However, the President can assume full control if he wants to. After all.... he is the Commander-in-Chief....
 
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