You ever heard of Astrology?

Astrology was not "widely accepted as truth in Biblical times." The times that God used heavenly objects for signs, or in dreams, or to perform an unnatural behavior, He did it as an exception to the normal course of nature. They were events created by God, for a specific one-time purpose of His. There was no "science" of astrology (horoscopes or soothsaying) that was accepted by God.

If you care to give me specific instances of what you think were uses of astrology by God's people in the Bible, I will be happy to address them.



Ah, I think we're getting to the crux of the matter. :)



You're kidding! You must not follow the news. If you did, you would know that most people "in charge" these days are NOT traditional (conservative?) or religious (at least not fundamental Christian religious).



:hmm: 3,000 astrologers divided by 45 countries = about 66 people from each country

Not very impressive. I thought there were more astrologers than that on any given day in Los Angeles alone. :dunno:

because American is still young country and Astrology books still in processing to spread the books store in your home local while a bunch of church over this country. Today is 2008 and many people starting to explore the truth from lost secret. Only time will tell and will changing..

Astrology in the Bible

"There shall be signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars." - Jesus Christ, Luke 21:25

The Bible states that God made the heavenly bodies to show us "signs" of his intentions. These signs can be read by anyone who knows how to interpret them. Astrology is about interpreting these signs in the motions of the sun, moon, planets, and stars.

"And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as SIGNS to mark seasons and days and years, and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the Earth." And it was so." (Gen. 1:14-15)

"And there shall be SIGNS in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the Earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the Earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory." (Luke 21:25-27)

In the verse above, Christ uses astrology to reveal the "signs" in the sky of his coming.

The Bible states that the first communication from God came from the stars. David writes in his Psalm:

"The HEAVENS declare the glory of God, and the firmament shows his handiwork. Day after day utters his speech and night after night shows his knowledge. There is no tongue or language where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the Earth and their words to the ends of the world. In them (the heavens) he has set a tabernacle for the sun." (Psalm 19:1-4)

"Can you bring forth the Mazzaroth (the zodiac) in their seasons or lead out the Bear with its cubs? (an astrological constellation)" (Job 38:32)



Here you go. I just give you five.. if you want to know, i will be happy give you more information.
 
Bible is not meant to be taken literally...... it's just words of wisdom. God is in everybody's heart. It's hard to live your life without bias, discrimination, judgment, etc - a pure wise man.
 
Repetitive is must! because we are not same language of consciousness. That is not possible for us to understand at all. We are different view on it and not worth for us to argue since you do not believe in Astrology. That is fine with me. I guess this is topic not your thing to discuss. Simply put, walk away.

Sorry, I don't take orders. And you still are refusing to explain all of these catch phrases you keep throwing out. Guess you don't know what they mean, but think the big words sound good.
 

In the second millennium B.C. they adopted the constellations that had already been recognized by the Sumerians(iraq) in the third millennium, and they began to observe and record celestial phenomena. Everything information of documents in library of Assyrians king.

That material passed to the persians then passed to egypt during of persian domination then spread to northwest india(pakistan). Some translated passed into Greek in the west and sanskrit in the east. By the Years and years, information of documents passed to different country over the world.
 
Note, that science (from the Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") refers to any systematic knowledge or practice.

Anyone whoever like yourself have total lack of knowledge under the star.
only way to education yourself and no one can tell you to do, but yourself.

When you copy and paste, you need to cite your source. Check the forum rules, as well as copyright laws.

It is quite obvious that the first sentence was not written by you.
 
yeah, he is genius and I highly respect Albert Einstein. I mention it before there is big different education and intelligence. They're both genius. wow!

Albert Einstein was a mathemetician and a scientist. He believed in that which could be empirically supported. Quite the opposite of your beliefs.
 
You know, I noticed something.....

DeafAstrologer hasn't revealed his DOB or sign....Maybe because he doesn't want to reveal his flaws?

I think he's already revealed his flaws, and they have nothing to do with his DOB.:giggle:
 
Sorry, I don't take orders. And you still are refusing to explain all of these catch phrases you keep throwing out. Guess you don't know what they mean, but think the big words sound good.

Every time I explained to you and you just keep throwing me some tomatoes.

Just be patience and be learn. Life is short and have a chance learn something new.
 
You know, I noticed something.....

DeafAstrologer hasn't revealed his DOB or sign....Maybe because he doesn't want to reveal his flaws?

<<Sigh>> Probably just another Pisces with a Virgo moon and with Aquarius rising.

Brett, I'm sure this debate is getting the advertising desired. Note the kind mention by a fellow member to avoid name-calling and personal attacks. Those behaviors are quite unprofessional for a professional astrologer.

Chase
Intellectual snob
 
Albert Einstein was a mathemetician and a scientist. He believed in that which could be empirically supported. Quite the opposite of your beliefs.

Einstein is nothing with astrology. Just big different between education and intelligence that no one understand his work method like i do in astrology.
 
because American is still young country and Astrology books still in processing to spread the books store in your home local while a bunch of church over this country. Today is 2008 and many people starting to explore the truth from lost secret. Only time will tell and will changing..

Astrology in the Bible

"There shall be signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars." - Jesus Christ, Luke 21:25

The Bible states that God made the heavenly bodies to show us "signs" of his intentions. These signs can be read by anyone who knows how to interpret them. Astrology is about interpreting these signs in the motions of the sun, moon, planets, and stars.
"And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as SIGNS to mark seasons and days and years, and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the Earth." And it was so." (Gen. 1:14-15)

"And there shall be SIGNS in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the Earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the Earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory." (Luke 21:25-27)

In the verse above, Christ uses astrology to reveal the "signs" in the sky of his coming.
The Bible states that the first communication from God came from the stars. David writes in his Psalm:"The HEAVENS declare the glory of God, and the firmament shows his handiwork. Day after day utters his speech and night after night shows his knowledge. There is no tongue or language where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the Earth and their words to the ends of the world. In them (the heavens) he has set a tabernacle for the sun." (Psalm 19:1-4)

"Can you bring forth the Mazzaroth (the zodiac) in their seasons or lead out the Bear with its cubs? (an astrological constellation)" (Job 38:32)



Here you go. I just give you five.. if you want to know, i will be happy give you more information.

Once again, when you copy and paste, cite your sources. It is quite easy to tell what you have written and what you have pasted from another source. The bolded statements are obviously not your own. How ethical is that for a professional astrologer?
 
<<Sigh>> Probably just another Pisces with a Virgo moon and with Aquarius rising.

Brett, I'm sure this debate is getting the advertising desired. Note the kind mention by a fellow member to avoid name-calling and personal attacks. Those behaviors are quite unprofessional for a professional astrologer.

Chase
Intellectual snob

I am not here advertising, but only teaching and feed back.

deaf community is very small in america and tell me how many deaf who interesting in astrology is really very small while many church filled over this country. give me break.
 
In the second millennium B.C. they adopted the constellations that had already been recognized by the Sumerians(iraq) in the third millennium, and they began to observe and record celestial phenomena. Everything information of documents in library of Assyrians king.

That material passed to the persians then passed to egypt during of persian domination then spread to northwest india(pakistan). Some translated passed into Greek in the west and sanskrit in the east. By the Years and years, information of documents passed to different country over the world.

There you go, stealing another person's words again. That doesn't give you much credibility.
 
Every time I explained to you and you just keep throwing me some tomatoes.

Just be patience and be learn. Life is short and have a chance learn something new.

I would be happy to consider your explanation....just as soon as you come up with one. You have yet to do that.
 
Once again, when you copy and paste, cite your sources. It is quite easy to tell what you have written and what you have pasted from another source. The bolded statements are obviously not your own. How ethical is that for a professional astrologer?

Once I became an astrologer, I requested from my people(astrologers club) have information that filled bible. They will be happy to shared to other people WHO like to read astrology. Not you.

you love to throw me some tomatoes. Go ahead make fun of me. you waste your time.
 
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