You ever heard of Astrology?

Wow! I fit them all! :lol:

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Reba said:
I thought you said that astrology was ancient?



25 "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;"

If you read the entire chapter, you will see that Jesus is referring to the end times (future), and a very specific course of events that will occur in that period. Just like I said in my post. The "signs" of the sun, moon, and stars aren't for daily human use; they will be presented by Jesus for a very specific one-time event. The fact that it will be a "sign" is that it will be an extraordinary event, not seen before in the daily (evening) sky.



The signs to which Luke 21 refer, haven't happened yet. There's nothing to interpret because the signs haven't yet appeared. Even when they do, they won't need interpretation by "specialists" because they will be evident to everyone on earth.



"14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good."

No big mystery. The "signs" that the sun, moon, and stars show are day (sun shining), night (moon and stars shining); divisions of time: day, night, hours, months, years; and for illumination ("to give light upon the earth").

That passage says the sun and moon will "rule over the day and over the night"; it does NOT say they will rule over the lives of man.



That was covered above.

Note the whole passage and context; there were more things going on than just the celestial "signs."



"1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. 2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. 3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. 4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, 5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. 6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof."

A worshipful poetic description of Creation, and how Creation displays the handiwork of the Lord. It also compares the bridegroom (Christ) to the brightness and glory of the sun rising above the horizon when He comes for His bride (the church). Nothing about the heavenly bodies influencing individuals' futures.



More of this context:

"1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, . . .

31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? 32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? 33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth? . . .

40:1 Moreover the LORD answered Job, and said, 2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it."

If you read the entire context of chapters 38-40, you will see that it is God's response to Job's presumptiousness. God, rhetorically, asks Job if he can do all those things that God enumerates in that passage. The answer is "no." Only God can control the things of earth and heaven.

In other words, God reprimands Job, and tells Job that only God can do those things; man cannot.
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Ok, that is your own interpreting, not this thread. you need go book store and re read it.
 
DeafAstrologer said:
I do not need compute charts. I just followed the house system from your birth month. Long time ago, we don't have computer and a clock. Let me give you three example and remember a myriad of aspects can make the expression either positive or negative; if you birth month of December and your mind processing with a Pisces (deception) ruling your 3rd house (communication) you would be terrible sensitive to anything rough, you would also be naturally attracted to religions where soft angelic relaxing music and an exotic peaceful environment would be very much regenerating.if your birth month of November- with a Capricorn (logical) ruling your 3rd house (communication) politics, mathematics and science would be a natural interest and all this astrology stuff would make no sense to you. if your birth month of Feburary- with an Aries (War) ruling your 3rd house (communication) you would be more into sports, engineering, the army and others would perceive you as childish egocentric or rude.
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If you are unable to compute the charts, you can hardly call yourself an astrologer. You just read horoscopes.

The science of personality psychology is quite accurate in determining personality characteristic....and never once do they request your birth date.
 
DeafAstrologer said:
Ok, that is your own interpreting, not this thread. you need go book store and re read it.
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Re-read what? The Bible? I have several copies at home, thank you; I don't need to go to a book store.

You challenged me with Bible verses, and I responded with the truth.

"You can't handle the truth!"

(Sorry, Jack. :giggle:)
 
DeafAstrologer said:
I do not need compute charts. I just followed the house system from your birth month. Long time ago, we don't have computer and a clock. Let me give you three example and remember a myriad of aspects can make the expression either positive or negative; if you birth month of December and your mind processing with a Pisces (deception) ruling your 3rd house (communication) you would be terrible sensitive to anything rough, you would also be naturally attracted to religions where soft angelic relaxing music and an exotic peaceful environment would be very much regenerating.if your birth month of November- with a Capricorn (logical) ruling your 3rd house (communication) politics, mathematics and science would be a natural interest and all this astrology stuff would make no sense to you. if your birth month of Feburary- with an Aries (War) ruling your 3rd house (communication) you would be more into sports, engineering, the army and others would perceive you as childish egocentric or rude.
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Of course not they did not have computer and clock back then. Einstein didn't have a computer either! Neither did Newton, Bohr, Galileo, etc. Take a long look at your astrology picture. see that tool? The people who invented those have fundamental understanding of higher mathematical concepts. Not understanding it in your studying of astrology is an insult to astrology's founding fathers for failing to understand their ulterior motives. :whip:
 
jillio said:
What does their hearing status have to do with anything? Sharing information is one thing. Presenting another's words as your own is quite another. If your understanding is as great as you claim it to be, you should be able to explain without the need for relying on the words of others.
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Some day, I will published my book from what i learn since...My paperwork is not ordered here and i still typed my own blog. My time will come...

Note, that astrology have many many information that I cant pick one important. I wish i could pour on you for everything, but I am very busy to teach you this net(alldeaf).
 
jillio said:
If you are unable to compute the charts, you can hardly call yourself an astrologer. You just read horoscopes.

The science of personality psychology is quite accurate in determining personality characteristic....and never once do they request your birth date.
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Ha ha... that is not horoscopes. Just follow house system from your birth month as divine astrology so you can read 12 different houses.

But since you total lack understand this thread and all you do is throw fruits..
 
Gonna be a short book. You can't even explain the concept of Cosmic Consciousness that you keep referring to.
 
DeafAstrologer said:
Ha ha... that is not horoscopes. Just follow house system from your birth month as divine astrology so you can read 12 different houses.

But since you total lack understand this thread and all you do is throw fruits..
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Nope, not throwing fruits. But someone is throwing a lot of BS.:giggle:
 
Reba said:
Re-read what? The Bible? I have several copies at home, thank you; I don't need to go to a book store.

You challenged me with Bible verses, and I responded with the truth.

"You can't handle the truth!"

(Sorry, Jack. :giggle:)
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I been challenged many moron people here this thread and have no time to play. only one thing is education yourself and do your homework.
 
DeafAstrologer said:
Ha ha... that is not horoscopes. Just follow house system from your birth month as divine astrology so you can read 12 different houses.

But since you total lack understand this thread and all you do is throw fruits..
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Wow!:jaw: You can read? In other words, you are not an astrologer. You are just looking at a book and repeating what you see there without comprehending any of it.
 
DeafAstrologer said:
Some day, I will published my book from what i learn since...My paperwork is not ordered here and i still typed my own blog. My time will come...

Note, that astrology have many many information that I cant pick one important. I wish i could pour on you for everything, but I am very busy to teach you this net(alldeaf).
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well - i highly recommend you to go to accredited university to learn the fundamental understanding of higher concepts of most subjects and perhaps you'll be able to articulate your way of teaching to us feeble minds. All I hear is your shaky explanations with lines from wikipedia and bible that you cannot properly interpret. There is no original thought of your own either. I doubt you will be publishing your book anytime soon nor in future like this - more like a notebook on ebay.

btw - what's with fruits? are you obsessed with fruits? i like fruit. throwing it is such a waste.... I like slices of tomato to go with my mozzarella and salami. do you like fruit? did you know tomato is not a vegetable? it's a fruit! fruit means it has seeds but vegetable does not. anyway - just useless information.
 
DeafAstrologer said:
I been challenged many moron people here this thread and have no time to play. only one thing is education yourself and do your homework.
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Why is it that you insist on calling educated, intelligent people "morons"? Do you have any concept of offensivenss? For someone who claims to so intelligent, your ability to support your claims is extremely limited.

You would do well to follow your own advise.
 
jiro123 said:
well - i highly recommend you to go to accredited university to learn the fundamental understanding of higher concepts of most subjects and perhaps you'll be able to articulate your way of teaching to us feeble minds. All I hear is your shaky explanations with lines from wikipedia and bible that you cannot properly interpret. There is no original thought of your own either. I doubt you will be publishing your book anytime soon nor in future like this - more like a notebook on ebay.

btw - what's with fruits? are you obsessed with fruits? i like fruit. throwing it is such a waste.... I like slices of tomato to go with my mozzarella and salami. do you like fruit? did you know tomato is not a vegetable? it's a fruit! fruit means it has seeds but vegetable does not. anyway - just useless information.
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You are absolutely correct. A tomato is not a vegetable. It is a fruit. Not bad for a moron!:giggle:
 
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