Wow, CI's are expensive

The above reasoning-undertakers make the most because of unlimited supply.

Implanted Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07
 
Even some health insurance plans do not cover CIs. My husband's insurance wont cover them
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Yeah, I have to say that with the high costs of health care, they are prolly going to cut down on the ambigious canidates, and bilateral implantation is going to be super rare.
 
posts from hell said:
Amazing, the hearing parent who knows everything had to ask. ;)

Interpreters is not included in this. ;)
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No, I don't know everything but thanks for believing that I do. Had to ask because your initial post was vague, ambiguous and incomplete. Your follow-up response begs the question as to why you would exclude an industry who's very existence depends almost exclusively on the deaf?

Are you only against those industries and individuals who do not subscribe to your values from making money from the deaf community?

Rick
 
rick48 said:
No, I don't know everything but thanks for believing that I do. Had to ask because your initial post was vague, ambiguous and incomplete. Your follow-up response begs the question as to why you would exclude an industry who's very existence depends almost exclusively on the deaf?

Are you only against those industries and individuals who do not subscribe to your values from making money from the deaf community?

Rick
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i dont really have the time to explain it to you, ive posted it, twice to be exact.

feel free to watch this video.. you'll understand.

The Gallaudet Syndrome: On Profiting from Deafness on Vimeo
 
I don't think its a fair thing to say deaf body = insane medical profits. Good things cost money. I don't feel 150k for two implants is unreasonable.
 
iowaboy said:
I don't think its a fair thing to say deaf body = insane medical profits. Good things cost money. I don't feel 150k for two implants is unreasonable.
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Did you pay it? Or insurance?
 
Insurance. Our copay is 20%... but it doesn't matter who paid it, 150k is not an inflated price when you figure it covers 12 months of workup, diagnostic radiology, equipment, surgeon fees, surgical office staff, Hospital fees and hospital staff, anesthesiology, audiology pre and post op, etc, etc, etc. The vast number of folks involved require a hefty price tag.
 
iowaboy said:
I don't think its a fair thing to say deaf body = insane medical profits. Good things cost money. I don't feel 150k for two implants is unreasonable.
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watch the film then.

a private school costs a tag of $95,000 to the state per student per year - for 15 years...

CI $150,000

That's just scratching the surface.

Meanwhile I say FFFFFUUUUU to all that, and I only use interpreters. I doubt in 50 years I'll even achieve the cost of a CI.
 
The state didn't pay for the CI. I did. So private school is an expense that I have relieved from the state, and my family.
 
iowaboy said:
Yes, I bought a well priced product from an industry. Its not insane profit.
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But you did not actually buy it. Insurance did, raising costs for all of us for an elective procedure.
 
private insurance. We live in a world of insurance, whether welfare or private. To say that using insurance raises the price appreciably is nonsense. It takes a sum of money that large to support a CI center. Additionally, most centers I'm aware of are also dependent upon grants. Again, the profit margin is probably much smaller than you realize.
 
iowaboy said:
private insurance. We live in a world of insurance, whether welfare or private. To say that using insurance raises the price appreciably is nonsense. It takes a sum of money that large to support a CI center. Additionally, most centers I'm aware of are also dependent upon grants. Again, the profit margin is probably much smaller than you realize.
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They are dependent upon grants if they are actively doing research and engaging in experimental procedures. That is what grant money is provided for.

Insurance pays, but rarely do they pay actual fee for service. They drastically cut the amount they pay for the procedure. That is why the cost for those who elect to receive a CI and pay for it themselves is elevated. To make up for the losses in the insurance re-imbursement.
 
jillio said:
They are dependent upon grants if they are actively doing research and engaging in experimental procedures. That is what grant money is provided for.

Insurance pays, but rarely do they pay actual fee for service. They drastically cut the amount they pay for the procedure. That is why the cost for those who elect to receive a CI and pay for it themselves is elevated. To make up for the losses in the insurance re-imbursement.
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I've wondered about the percentage and how much the surgeon gets out of implanting a CI. Just curious.
 
Beowulf said:
I've wondered about the percentage and how much the surgeon gets out of implanting a CI. Just curious.
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The average is 70% of billable costs. They also exclude some of the costs of implantation as "non-billable" Some more, a few less. And that is what is considered to be a good insurance. Most have just a set fee they will reimburse, no matter what the billable costs are.
 
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