Wild Wing Cafe Kicks Out 25 African Americans After White Customer Felt 'Threatened'

OIC, but why two hours? What's more, there were tables available for them but the manager won't let them have those tables due to the customer (white woman) who didn't want them sitting next to her. That's racism.
I don't know all the details of what really happened that night at WWC.

I do know that long wait times are not uncommon in the Lowcountry. There have been times we've waited over an hour just for our family of six to get a table. We just factor that into our dining out time. If we have to wait only 15 minutes at a restaurant we figure that's a pleasant surprise.

Most of the large group dining we do requires reserving a room ahead of time--way ahead (at least a month).
 
I thought it was interesting. If you were local and knew about Mayor Summey (he's a character) I guess it would be of more interest.

Well since you're the only one with local knowledge of him maybe you should have said what was so interesting about it.........instead of leaving a vague "look this dude had his picture taken with mayor" post.
 
Well since you're the only one with local knowledge of him maybe you should have said what was so interesting about it.........instead of leaving a vague "look this dude had his picture taken with mayor" post.
I just thought a picture with one's mayor was interesting--even without someone knowing the mayor it could be a positive thing or a negative thing. It did show there seemed to be no black/white animosity in the picture with the mayor. The point is, apparently Mike felt comfortable enough with N. Charleston's white mayor to post the picture in his profile. Mike doesn't seem to be someone with a perpetual race axe to grind.

Mayor Summey is both revered and ridiculed, so one's reaction could go either way. It wasn't any kind of endorsement.
 
OIC, but why two hours? What's more, there were tables available for them but the manager won't let them have those tables due to the customer (white woman) who didn't want them sitting next to her. That's racism.

I've waited that long since we were a large group (8+). it's common especially at busy restaurants. heck.... I've waited for an hour even for 2 of us.

An average time for a table to be available for next patrons is like 45 minutes. Assuming that a table can fit 4 people.... that's about 7 tables in a row are needed for a group of 25. 2-hours wait makes sense.
 
When group of 25 get free meal so I hopefully they tipping at 15%+ up to value of meal for 25 people, that will be nice to waiters.
 
I just thought a picture with one's mayor was interesting--even without someone knowing the mayor it could be a positive thing or a negative thing. It did show there seemed to be no black/white animosity in the picture with the mayor. The point is, apparently Mike felt comfortable enough with N. Charleston's white mayor to post the picture in his profile. Mike doesn't seem to be someone with a perpetual race axe to grind.

Mayor Summey is both revered and ridiculed, so one's reaction could go either way. It wasn't any kind of endorsement.

I'm just saying if you have you a point you're trying to make, you should probably just make it. Then things won't be muddled and misunderstood. Clarity in intentions is not a bad thing. In this case, instead of saying something is interesting, tell us what you find interesting about it, instead of leaving it all fill in the blank and then getting haughty when people do fill in the blank with stuff you didn't mean. :dunno:

But I thank you for for telling us now. Me personally, I feel his having his picture taken with a white person doesn't mean anything. On the other hand I don't necessarily feel he's racist himself. There were 24 people with him, I don't think he was the one causing problems. Also, I still can very very easily see them pulling the "that's racist" card, it happens all the time when that's not what's going on. :roll:
 
I don't know if they even take reservations there. I'm just saying that if you have a large group, and the place takes reservations, that's the best way to eliminate a long wait.

Charleston (and the area around it) lives, breathes, and propagates the restaurant and hospitality industry. There is no slump in restaurant businesses here. There are crowds, packed parking, and waiting lines all over the place, not just "fancy" restaurants. :lol:

I know .. I was just responding to the post before yours about dinner reservations. To me, a dinner reservation means "fine dining". A place like Wild Wings, to me, is the opposite of fine dining.

But you are right, a phone call before hand is always prudent - like maybe the week before. Give management time to work out a schedule.

My family eat out every Thursday, and sometimes, it is the same restaurant - that restaurant expects all of us (sometimes 25 or more) but when we don't go, its no biggie. And yes, we have to wait at some places, but two hours???? We would have gone elsewhere long before that.

And no, we wouldn't have "picked a fight" with anyone, nor would we be standing taking a recording of any conversations. However, if we were told a 30 minute wait, and ended up there an hour, we might say something to the manager. Also, we wouldn't be trying to call for a public boycott of a restaurant that we may have felt slighted by - we simply would take our business elsewhere.
 
Well, the restaurant has a right not to serve them if they have bad attitudes and disrespect toward other customers. Michael Brown was probably not telling the whole truth.
 
Well, the restaurant has a right not to serve them if they have bad attitudes and disrespect toward other customers. Michael Brown was probably not telling the whole truth.
That's a lot of assumption on your part.
 
That's a lot of assumption on your part.
I said IF. BTW, I didn't assume.

The group was being loud and obnoxious to both customers and staffers.
One of the guests also insulted a deaf white girl because she didn’t respond to one of them telling her to move (she was deaf and didn’t hear them) They were also all standing in the middle of the walk way, making it difficult for customers to leave. We asked them if they could move over, but they said they can stand wherever they want, and if we wanted them out of the way then we should seat them. The customer that was offended was offended by a particular individual’s constant uses of the word “n*gger” When asked to stop, he threw out a long string of racial epithets against one of my co-workers.
 
I said IF. BTW, I didn't assume.
Yes, you are assuming which person is lying and which person is telling the truth, based on unproven statements by both sides.

The only facts we know are that on that day someone working at WWC asked a 25-person party to leave the premises after waiting two hours and not getting served, and that the party did leave.
 
Yes, you are assuming which person is lying and which person is telling the truth, based on unproven statements by both sides.

The only facts we know are that on that day someone working at WWC asked a 25-person party to leave the premises after waiting two hours and not getting served, and that the party did leave.
I did said probably which means maybe. Anyway two people left comments in that link;

LOL I am afro american and somehow I believe the white version of the story. Nope I am not a sell out I just think we as blacks feel entitled and blame lot of stuff on others. Me personally I am not waiting to hours to have dinner with Obama. Let alone a Wing spot.
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KJ I am also Afro-American and I totally totally 100% agree with you man!!!! I have seen this too many times for myself and I have asked staff not to seat those people near me! Its not the color that I don’t want next to me its the ignorance!
They believe the employee's story. So do I.
 
I did said probably which means maybe. Anyway two people left comments in that link;

They believe the employee's story. So do I.
Just to let you know, not everyone who posts saying they are black really are black. That may or may not be the case here but it does happen. Just sayin'.
 
I think your link is broken.
Sorry. How's this?

Restaurant incident goes viral

Author(s): By Christina Elmore and Andy Paras
celmore@postandcourier.com aparas@postandcourier.com Date: August 27, 2013 Section: PC Metro

Before USA Today and the U.K. Daily Mail, before Huffington Post and Gawker, Mike Brown’s story about how his friends and family were treated at a local restaurant was a Facebook post. “I will never go to Wild wings cafe in N. Chs again!” Brown, who is black, wrote on his page before describing how his party of 25 was refused service because, he said, a white person felt threatened by them.

More than 3,000 Facebook shares later, the story was picked up by a local TV station, then by outlets across the country and around the world, sparking public outrage amid accusations of racial discrimination.

Wild Wings has issued an apology and offered Brown a free meal, but people continue to post angry comments on the company’s Facebook page.

“This is just another example of how the customer has a much louder voice than they used to have,” said Doug Ferguson, a communications professor at the College of Charleston.

Gone are the days — say 10 years ago — when gatekeepers such as journalists and businesses decided what made headlines because the public didn’t have the resources to get their message out.

“The story happens first and the journalists have to figure out if they’re going to run with it,” Ferguson said of today’s climate. “They almost have no choice because the story grows so big.”

Social media is a double-edged sword for businesses that can benefit by communicating directly with their customers. But they also face immediate blowback when their attempts go awry.

McDonald’s learned that last year when it invited patrons to share their fond experiences with the chain on Twitter, only to have haters post revolting stories about the food. Applebee’s also took some heat this year when the chain fired a St. Louis waitress who had bad-mouthed a customer online after he left a poor tip.

Ashley T. Caldwell is founder of Modern Connection, a Charleston social media marketing company that typically speaks for its clients on social media.

One of the first things her company does is customize a crisis communication plan for clients that anticipates every possible situation.

“How you handle negative reaction shows more about your business than anything else,” Caldwell said.

Brown’s story

The furor over Wild Wings started when Brown and his friends gathered for a going-away celebration at the chain’s Rivers Avenue restaurant on July 31.

Brown said he and his party had been waiting in the restaurant’s lobby for about an hour when they had a run-in with two white women who attempted to maneuver their way through the crowd to get to the hostess’ counter.

One of the women stepped on his sister-in-law’s foot and cursed at her, he said. Then, without explanation, the hostess seated those women first before Brown’s party, he said.

Brown’s sister in-law, 28-year-old Chelsea Green of North Charleston, said their group continued to wait for another hour before a manager told them that they weren’t being seated because the two women complained that they felt threatened.

“They should have given us the option to leave and go to another restaurant instead of making us wait around for nothing,” Green said. “It was embarrassing because they made us look like we’re a bunch of criminals.”

Brown said the group complained to a manager, but that woman grew irate when she noticed that they were filming the incident on their cellphones. A bouncer was called to the lobby and the group was escorted out of the restaurant. Brown said he and his group felt race was a factor in how the situation was handled.

Going viral

After his complaints to Wild Wings’ corporate office went nowhere, Brown said, he decided to post his story on Facebook, and the episode took on a life of its own.

As word of the situation continued to spread on social media, the restaurant posted messages on its Facebook page responding to the complaints, including a Sunday statement saying senior management is “incredibly saddened and regretful about all that has happened in this unfortunate situation.”

“We are truly disappointed and sorry that any guests of ours felt disrespected or discriminated against,” the statement read. “Our ownership group, home office staff and restaurant staff represent the diversity that our great country is made up of and these accusations do not reflect our values. We can assure you that we will not tolerate any discriminatory behavior in our organization.”

Green said she is not satisfied with the restaurant’s attempt to make things right, and she isn’t interested in a free meal or coupons. “They need to know that they’re wrong,” she said. “They need to get trained on how to properly handle situations like this.”

Ferguson, the communication professor, said the episode shows it is best in most instances to let an aggrieved customer vent, then ask what you can do for them. Offering the upset customer something without hearing them out will likely make them angrier, he said.

Caldwell’s advice on how to respond on social media is to take a step back and remain calm, respond in a timely manner, then try to take the conversation off-line and resolve it there, without a lot of back-and-forth. But to avoid social media altogether means you are not a part of the online conversations about your business that are going to happen with or without you, she said.

“You just have to kind of accept that it has the potential to become viral,” she said.
http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=doc&p_docid=148766CC23E5D5A8&p_docnum=1
 
Yes, that's better now.

:ty: for copied and paste.
 
unless they sitting with guns cocked and loaded that be only reason throw someone out.DR King message not reached everyone then..
They should been looking at food and menue not obseving other people so food not that good then
 
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