Why - Why the Medical Society constantly pressure on the Parents?

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deafskeptic said:
I have no answer for you. I really don't know why some deaf have good speech and others don't. :dunno:

I was raised via the Oral method myself and while I speak well, it's harder for me to understand what the hearing say to me. They seem more concerned about my speech than if I understand THEM.

I have seen a couple of parents be like that with their deaf child and teachers also. But for me it was always more important that I can a conversation with my child then making sure their speech was perfect. Their speech came in time to be very good but I wasn't focus on that.

I've seen students do better when exposed to a language that is easily accessable to them. When I am in a signing class room, I don't have to struggle to understand what is going on and I don't have to read everything in sight to make up for what I missed in class.

Even with implants, spoken language is only partially accessiable to many. That's not good enough in my book.
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It really depends on the person.
 
shel90 said:
Interesting..I noticed that the deaf posters share our experiences with speech therapy while the hearing posters tell us what and how much speech therapy is required or is not required.
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I took speech in elementary school. That is it for me, I was released from speech.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
Sorry, I am not sure what you interpretetion of respectful is but you and your friend have never been respectful to me. Your first comment was why my daughter doesn't sign. It wasn't good for mom making sure that her daughter has what she needs.
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That was a question. Not allowed to ask questions? I was curious to why cuz that is my way of learning.

I did say in a post after that specific post that u were doing a good job of ensuring that all of your kids' needs were being met. It is still there. :)
 
shel90 said:
Interesting..I noticed that the deaf posters share our experiences with speech therapy while the hearing posters tell us what and how much speech therapy is required or is not required.
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Shel,

Do not know if you are referring to me, but I was relating my experiences with my daughter's S&L. However, it is common knowledge that if you or your child gets a ci, that s&l therapy especially at the onset would be needed if you are going to make sense of the sounds that you would be hearing, for many the first time ever.

As to the exact amount or duration, well like mostly everything else, it depends upon the individual.

I will repeat however, that my daughter's S&L therapy was never at the expense of academics and never interfered with her social and extra-curricular activities.

If you were referring to me, I hope that answers your question, if you were not referring to me, sorry.

Rick
 
rick48 said:
Shel,

Do not know if you are referring to me, but I was relating my experiences with my daughter's S&L. However, it is common knowledge that if you or your child gets a ci, that s&l therapy especially at the onset would be needed if you are going to make sense of the sounds that you would be hearing, for many the first time ever.

As to the exact amount or duration, well like mostly everything else, it depends upon the individual.

I will repeat however, that my daughter's S&L therapy was never at the expense of academics and never interfered with her social and extra-curricular activities.

Rick
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Just making a general observation and how it was interesting. Not saying that anyone was wrong nor accusing anyone of anything. I guess I could have put it in a better way but too late now. Not a biggie...
 
shel90 said:
Just making a general observation and how it was interesting. Not saying that anyone was wrong nor accusing anyone of anything. I guess I could have put it in a better way but too late now. Not a biggie...
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Ok just checking. Instead of shoot first and ask questions later just thought I would try it the other way. :)
Rick
 
rick48 said:
You are just trying to bait vallee and others into yet another prolonged circular argument.

Anyone who has researched the ci knows that the post therapy s&l is very important. One of the great benefits of implanting a child as soon as possible is that the most intensive S&L will be done before starting academic courses in grade school.

For example, even though she was implanted at 2 and a half my daughter never missed any academic lessons for her in school S&L.

BTW if you really are familiar with cis you should have already known that!


No sacrifice of academics at all but she gained spoken language without the struggle.
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Without the struggle? And I am baiting no one. Go back and check the posts, and you will see exactly how many times it has been said that speech therapy is not necessary for their child, or for the CI children they teach. Then it has been claimed that it should be part of the academic curriculum. Then it is claimed that the CI allows for natural acquisition of speech. Contradictions, contradictions.
 
vallee said:
I took speech in elementary school. That is it for me, I was released from speech.
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That was prior to you receiving a CI, was it not? And because you were postlingually deafened with a progressive loss?
 
deafskeptic said:
I have no answer for you. I really don't know why some deaf have good speech and others don't. :dunno:

I was raised via the Oral method myself and while I speak well, it's harder for me to understand what the hearing say to me. They seem more concerned about my speech than if I understand THEM.
I've seen students do better when exposed to a language that is easily accessable to them. When I am in a signing class room, I don't have to struggle to understand what is going on and I don't have to read everything in sight to make up for what I missed in class.

Even with implants, spoken language is only partially accessiable to many. That's not good enough in my book.
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:gpost: Re: the bolded statement....that would appear to be the case the majority of the time.
 
loml said:
There is simply not enough information in this article to make the conclusion that the child is pulled out of class to attend speech therapy.
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Read the statement.
 
shel90 said:
Interesting..I noticed that the deaf posters share our experiences with speech therapy while the hearing posters tell us what and how much speech therapy is required or is not required.
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I find that interesting as well.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
Sorry, I am not sure what you interpretetion of respectful is but you and your friend have never been respectful to me. Your first comment was why my daughter doesn't sign. It wasn't good for mom making sure that her daughter has what she needs.
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I fail to see how asking a valid question regarding the situation described in the aforementioned thread could be considered disrespectful. Simply asking a "why" question is not disrespectful.
 
jackiesolorzano said:
You know what Rick, when my children were young I was never a part of AG Bell. I did not become a member until after I became a teacher.
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Ah, so you are a member of A.G. BAD. What are your feelings regarding their recent objection to the Pepsi commercial featuring signing deaf....one of which was raised oral and has a CI?
 
loml said:
Originally Posted by loml





What statement are you referring to?
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It's quite obvious which statement I am referring to. How about answering the question in psot # 651?
 
jillio - If it was obvious to me I would not have asked the question. If you are referring to the statement bolded from deafskkeptics' post, that has nothing to do with the article regarding the boy from Ohio, which was what my post was addressing.
 
loml said:
jillio - If it was obvious to me I would not have asked the question. If you are referring to the statement bolded from deafskkeptics' post, that has nothing to do with the article regarding the boy from Ohio, which was what my post was addressing.
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I was referring to my statement bolded and copied and pasted from the article. Are you going to answer the question I referenced prior?
 
This one?
originally posted by jillio
Although Levi has come a long way, he needs to continue speech therapy classes throughout his education.
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Unless the person who wrote the article can see into the future (which if that is the case I would like a lotto ticket), this statement is simply a guess.
 
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