Why do some people continuing driving drunk?

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We as host of special occassion like wedding, birthdays, etc. to inform guests to make their own responsiblity for safety if they drink more than one... and remind them about vehicle laws and safety. It shows our concern for the guests. We all have no problem to respect the hosts because we are adult and know our limit. I never see in my life that the intoxicated guests and customers push their blames to host or bartender for the responsiblity and then set the law for the hosts or bartender until this thread here for a first time.

I can see some good points here but I still think it's our responsiblity as an adult who know our limit for drinking and know the law instead of find an excuse to blame the hosts and bartender for serve us the drink. IMO.

If I as host or bartender know the guests or customers who frequent are intoxicated then I would not invite/welcome them to my party or my bar because I don't want to be burden for my responsible for them etc.
 
GarnetTigerMom said:
Some of the signs to look for are:

slurred words

loss of balance, falling down

very loud or very withdrawn behaviour

inability to focus vision

loss of co-ordination (if they're fumbling for their keys, for example)
Any of these signs indicate serious intoxication. Do not even consider allowing this person to drive.

even their breath smell of booze when they had too many.
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Not always....some people who are drunk cannot be noticed easily. I am not stupid because I've seen drunk people before. :P
 
I closed the thread for a few minutes to delete some posts and pull it back on topic. Please refrain from going off topic.

The thread has been re-opened.

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DreamDeaf
 
Why do people think that we can't have a party without alcohol? :(
 
VamPyroX said:
Why do people think that we can't have a party without alcohol? :(
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You can have a party with alcohols but sometimes the responsibilities are lie on the person serving the alcohols, can be held legally liable for the safety of their guests and can be held responsible for injuries or damages that occur as a result of the alcohol they provide, maybe this is one reason why they don't want to have a party with alcohols.

I heard a story about someone suing someone over a death of their college daughter nor son who died in the result of alcohol poisoning at a college party. I don't recalling what year this had happened.
 
celebrities doesn't even care all want have fun partying.. and drink then drunk.. and can afford pay off the portion of lawyer cost fee plus court.. Wha..a.. soft hearted judge grant them and freed bird not even punishment more longer than months..

I've seen celebrities can handle stay jail for few hours then step out of the behind bars.
Wha..a. joke?

For example look Lindesy Loghan went out of control and not even thinking else because her expecting want have fun and partying... driving drunk on the wheel.. Which good thing didn't happen hit anyone but still concern she needs stop driving drunk on the wheel before might happening near the future..

That what My husband and I were talking about intoxicated people's lives and reckless accident freak or maugalaster (sp) murder as condiser drunk driver? Pointless...

Isn't same accord of canada law really quite stricter if you're on the wheel.. how much you're have intoxicated system of body.. will supsend your drive license and put you in the cell within 24 hours and release you... but not get license back.. up to the court says.. likely follow up the lose of points. Isn't fun eh.

If you're in the wheel really killed someone, will send you jail as longer than you expectation.. Isn't good time seeing the court judge will say to your case... How's the frigg'n serious matter.. depend other victims' spouse or family wha..ever want ask for charge and ask for their insurance filed large of portion their lost love ones..
Pretty huge horrible...

In Canada law about bar/bartner isn't part of their responbile unless if you're drunk.. they will not served you more booze for sure.. Will call the police get you or friend get you or else.. can be call cab but the bar will not pay for it.. Sadly!
Canada law of system requires 21 yrs old over allow you enter the bar/liquor store as same ciggy!
 
I pointed out why drunk driver can't stop drinking and driving. Simple put, since Cheri is smoker, I said, same prinicple as smoker, they can't stop smoking, even if it means smoking outside when the temperature is minus zero. Why can't they just stop smoking? Same answer.

Cheri couldn't take this and consider this as off topic, but in reality it is within same topic... the topic is about addiction. One who is addict can't stop doing, and asking them why; the addict won't be able to answer the very same question Cheri is trying to ask why. She don't want to admit why she can't quit smoking.

Drunk driver = addict to alcoholism and driving = greater risk of death

smoker = addict to Nicotine and other chemicals = greater risk of death

If you agreed with my comments, feel free debate and let me know.
 
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All right. You said what you had to say, DHB, but let's not mention anymore names from now on.

Thanks.
 
:thumbd: Yuck smoker!! also dont like driving and drunk too!! :(:(:(
 
diehardbiker said:
I pointed out why drunk driver can't stop drinking and driving. Simple put, since Cheri is smoker, I said, same prinicple as smoker, they can't stop smoking, even if it means smoking outside when the temperature is minus zero. Why can't they just stop smoking? Same answer.

Cheri couldn't take this and consider this as off topic, but in reality it is within same topic... the topic is about addiction. One who is addict can't stop doing, and asking them why; the addict won't be able to answer the very same question Cheri is trying to ask why. She don't want to admit why she can't quit smoking.

Drunk driver = addict to alcoholism and driving = greater risk of death

smoker = addict to Nicotine and other chemicals = greater risk of death

If you agreed with my comments, feel free debate and let me know.
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Even if you believe that an alcoholic "can't" stop drinking, the drinker can stop driving. A drunk sitting in a chair at home doesn't endanger the lives of others. It's the combination of drinking and driving that endangers the innocent public. That's why it's illegal.

A smoker and drinker might both each have a chemical dependency.

They can each drink or smoke to the death.

Smoking or drinking by adults at home is legal.

Here's the difference:

Driving a car after smoking a pack of cigarettes is legal, and doesn't endanger other people on the road.

Driving a car after drinking a six-pack of beer is illegal, and does endanger other people on the road.

Therefore, smoking is a personal health/safety issue, whereas drinking and driving is a public health/safety issue.
 
GalaxyAngel said:
celebrities doesn't even care all want have fun partying.. and drink then drunk.. and can afford pay off the portion of lawyer cost fee plus court.. Wha..a.. soft hearted judge grant them and freed bird not even punishment more longer than months..

I've seen celebrities can handle stay jail for few hours then step out of the behind bars.
Wha..a. joke?

For example look Lindesy Loghan went out of control and not even thinking else because her expecting want have fun and partying... driving drunk on the wheel.. Which good thing didn't happen hit anyone but still concern she needs stop driving drunk on the wheel before might happening near the future..

That what My husband and I were talking about intoxicated people's lives and reckless accident freak or maugalaster (sp) murder as condiser drunk driver? Pointless...

Isn't same accord of canada law really quite stricter if you're on the wheel.. how much you're have intoxicated system of body.. will supsend your drive license and put you in the cell within 24 hours and release you... but not get license back.. up to the court says.. likely follow up the lose of points. Isn't fun eh.

If you're in the wheel really killed someone, will send you jail as longer than you expectation.. Isn't good time seeing the court judge will say to your case... How's the frigg'n serious matter.. depend other victims' spouse or family wha..ever want ask for charge and ask for their insurance filed large of portion their lost love ones..
Pretty huge horrible...

In Canada law about bar/bartner isn't part of their responbile unless if you're drunk.. they will not served you more booze for sure.. Will call the police get you or friend get you or else.. can be call cab but the bar will not pay for it.. Sadly!
Canada law of system requires 21 yrs old over allow you enter the bar/liquor store as same ciggy!
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Yep, I totally agree with you there because rich high power people and celebrities always seems to get away with it. Sadly we got a very poor law order. It don't seems fair other people get slap on the wrist like lower class, poor people get jail time. But they got the money to get away with it. I guess that why they hired high power hungry lawyers to get them off the hook.
 
Some people don't want to quit. As for smoking......probably addicted but if they don't want to quit it is a different story.
As for drinking and driving.....brain lost it's morals....the addicted side wins the internal mind debate.
 
Whoa, that is not what I was trying to point out. STILL smoking in public DOES endanger other lives, since I got asthma, and I have to deal with disrespect smokers even in public! Also I have seen parents that is smoker being around kids considering threat to health of kids, but they continue to smoke around kids anyway, WHY? WHY? They seems can't understand that it does affects their own kids and others.

My point is, if you are smoker, and you wanted to know why those people who seems can't stop drinking and resulting them need go home from bars or whatever which means they may need to drive home. The problem starts from first drink, same thing from start to light cigarettes, knowing that it can endanger others but go ahead ANYWAY. Same reason why smoker can't stop smoke.

Bottom line what the topic is... "WHY"?

Reba said:
Even if you believe that an alcoholic "can't" stop drinking, the drinker can stop driving. A drunk sitting in a chair at home doesn't endanger the lives of others. It's the combination of drinking and driving that endangers the innocent public. That's why it's illegal.

A smoker and drinker might both each have a chemical dependency.

They can each drink or smoke to the death.

Smoking or drinking by adults at home is legal.

Here's the difference:

Driving a car after smoking a pack of cigarettes is legal, and doesn't endanger other people on the road.

Driving a car after drinking a six-pack of beer is illegal, and does endanger other people on the road.

Therefore, smoking is a personal health/safety issue, whereas drinking and driving is a public health/safety issue.
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Addiction does not discriminate, they can't discriminate between alcohol, drugs, booze, whatever you call. Its pretty much like "Same woman, with different clothes"

Cowpuppy said:
Some people don't want to quit. As for smoking......probably addicted but if they don't want to quit it is a different story.
As for drinking and driving.....brain lost it's morals....the addicted side wins the internal mind debate.
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diehardbiker said:
Whoa, that is not what I was trying to point out. STILL smoking in public DOES endanger other lives, since I got asthma, and I have to deal with disrespect smokers even in public! Also I have seen parents that is smoker being around kids considering threat to health of kids, but they continue to smoke around kids anyway, WHY? WHY? They seems can't understand that it does affects their own kids and others.

My point is, if you are smoker, and you wanted to know why those people who seems can't stop drinking and resulting them need go home from bars or whatever which means they may need to drive home. The problem starts from first drink, same thing from start to light cigarettes, knowing that it can endanger others but go ahead ANYWAY. Same reason why smoker can't stop smoke.

Bottom line what the topic is... "WHY"?
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Yup, I agree with you...

Smoking does affect to secondhand person, no offense to smokers, I just want smoking to be out of way in public area when non-smokers are around here, too risky.
 
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