Why adults choose CI's for their children

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loml said:
You ask them if they have had the opportunity to explore the option of Cued English.
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Fine..use CS at the home..anything but strictly oral-only!
 
Oceanbreeze said:
So, just because it's hard to master a foreign language, the parent shouldn't try? That's a cop out and one that parents seem to do all the time! :roll:
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That is what it feels like.
 
shel90 said:
And how do u know that? Who told you that? The CI children themselves or the medical community?
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My experience with CI children, interaction with adults who were implanted as children, and yes, research within the medical community.
 
rockdrummer said:
Do you think that is the same for all deaf kids regardless of when they became deaf.
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Yes and it is the same for hearing children..I have never heard of a CODA unable to pick up on ASL...

I am gonna ask you this...is it the same for all deaf kids regardless of them being hearing? Any hearing kids unable to pick up on spoken language?

Same concept...
 
faire_jour
spoken language was never an option, until now
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The option of spoken language is very much avaiable via CS, has been for over 40 years. The road less traveled.
 
jillio said:
But a child with a CI does not learn the spoken language of the parent as a native would. The process is quite different, and is, in fact a difference between learning and acquiring language. Your child does not have delays because she was able to acquire the fundamentals of language useage in a visual manner at an age appropriate time. She will then be able totransfer that internalized knowledge of language function to a second language, e.g. English.
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Many very early implanted children do very little adult directed therapy. They learn language by listen and using it everyday. How is that different than a native user?
 
shel90 said:
Exactly! What is so harmful about sign language? Shame, stigma, or denial?
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My off the cuff answer... denial or a willingness to believe what they've heard. Too many times parents listen to the so-called expert.. the audi, the ENT, ect. Spoken language is considered superior, so they push it. Doesn't matter if it does harm to the the deaf child or not. :roll:
 
faire_jour said:
My experience with CI children, interaction with adults who were implanted as children, and yes, research within the medical community.
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How long has the CI technology began since? I'm curious... several years?
 
faire_jour said:
My experience with CI children, interaction with adults who were implanted as children, and yes, research within the medical community.
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Did the children, themselves, tell u that they can hear AND most important, understand everything that is going on around them in a classroom full of hearing kids?
 
faire_jour said:
BUT many CI users do not miss out of those things. They are often able to hear and follow conversations like a hearing child. Is it still wrong to have a child who functions so well in an enviroment that uses auditory learning?
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The vast majority of CI students in the mainstream require the same support services that are required by students using an HA. If, indeed, they were able to hear and follow conversation the same as a hearing child, theywould not need these support services.

The measurements you are being told about are taken in a controlled environment. They cannot be generalized to an educational environment that does not mimic the conditions of the controlled environment.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
My off the cuff answer... denial or a willingness to believe what they've heard. Too many times parents listen to the so-called expert.. the audi, the ENT, ect. Spoken language is considered superior, so they push it. Doesn't matter if it does harm to the the deaf child or not. :roll:
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Yep, that is unfortunately so common! It's overdue to change all that BS! :roll:
 
shel90 said:
Thank you!!!

How hard is that for anyone to understand? Spoken language comes naturally for many hearing kids but visual language can come naturally for hearing kids too as proved by CODAs.
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Guess what? I'm hearing and have been my entire life. Guess what kind of learner I am...

lalalala....

....VISUAL! I do much better if you demonstrate how to do things rather than explain how to do it. I've also always been this way.
 
loml said:
faire_jour

The option of spoken language is very much avaiable via CS, has been for over 40 years. The road less traveled.
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Again with the contradicitions. CS, according to you, is not for teaching spoken language.
 
loml said:
OB - Are you a parent?
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Not the point...dont go there. If u want to start a thread about who is a parent and so forth, pls do so.
 
web730 said:
Seriously? I don't think it began back in 1980s... if so, it sure surprises me.
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I just checked - it became approved by FDA and was no longer considered as experimental as of 1984.
 
web730 said:
Thank you for this brief insight as why they chose it that way despite their lack of recognizance as why it makes it more difficult for the child. It's not a surprise as a matter of fact.
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I didn't find it surprizing, either. I was, however, glad to finally find the research that uses the hearing parents' own words and ratings for priorities that support the view that many have.
 
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