Who is God?

[Liebling:-)))]

Either you misinterpret the Bible or you have some sort of agenda against religion.

No, I do not misinterpret the bible or against religion but try to open my mind to see both sides until I see logical there...

I see the logical is the human author who have different beliefs interpret different bibles. I respect every beliefs what they beleive in different religions...

I only know that God and Jesus don´t have their own religions but the people themselves who create different religions and also different bibles... (example: Catholic, Baptist, Luthern, Christians, Mormon, JW, and more lists...)

 

[SxyPorkie]

I'm sorry but this is personal and I didn't ask you about this. I'm asking you how did they lie to you in regards of religion?

Yes. one of my past experiences... I lost RESPECT on religions and churches.... TOO MANY LIES..... EVEN SEVERAL VERSIONS OF BIBLES... It does not make any sense.. at all.....

 

[Yiffzer]

You lose respect for all religions based on one church's lies to you? Suit yourself then.

I'd recommend you to read up on Islam though. Much of it can verify Judaism and Christianity (and Jesus Christ).

 

[Reba]

Allright.. one of preachers had come to my house while i had three companies in the living room... that Preacher begged me to come back to church...I said NO... i will not go to the church and be hypocrite....
That preacher got angry.. told me all i need a dummy with a hotdog and screwed.. his wife was there with him.. she was so embarassed.. me and my friends laughed... few days later.. i told my other friend.. she called me liar..said that preacher never said that to me... that preacher denied saying like that...

ONe sunday.. i went to the church.. on end of sermon.. that preacher asked us if we had any annoucement... I raised my hand.... walked to the stage...esplained to people and him that he did lied to other.. he did insulted me in my own home... that preacher were blushed.. his face turned red..... his wife told everyone that he did that to me.... next thing i knew.. he was FIRED...because he did lied to memebers....

I'm very sorry that such an awful experience happened to you.

But those were individuals that hurt you, not God, not the Bible.

I don't know anything about that church but at least they finally did the right thing and got rid of that preacher.

Not all preachers and churches are bad. Just like everything in life, we have to be careful, check things out, and pay attention to what's happening. But we don't quit life altogether.

 

[Maria]

Yes, I know what verses is about. You didn´t answer my question... I am asking you again... Do you beleive what the bible says about "God kill you if you want to see his face"? Simple answer... Yes or No.

I believe in God because, He was tellin' the truth. I will NOT ask Him to show me His Face. Moses asked Him to show His Face to Moses. It's why God told him No, because it will kill him. God don't want that to happen to him because, He loves Moses so much as He loves you, me and everyone so much, too.

Why don't you try to put your hand closer to the light bulb and see if, it can burn your hand's skin ? Why don't you try to put a little wet on the light bulb to see, if it dries up really fast ? Why don't you put a small food like a small speck on the light bulb to see, if it can burn the food ?

Same idea with God, because He is the Light and His Light can burn sins. His Light can kill sins. His Light's Watt is beyond THAN what we have at the stores. The bulbs are from 7 to 100 watts or maybe, more. It still feels the heat when you are closer to it. God's Light is very Hot than any bulbs at the store.

 

[SxyPorkie]

I'm very sorry that such an awful experience happened to you.

But those were individuals that hurt you, not God, not the Bible.

I don't know anything about that church but at least they finally did the right thing and got rid of that preacher.

Not all preachers and churches are bad. Just like everything in life, we have to be careful, check things out, and pay attention to what's happening. But we don't quit life altogether.

OH Yeah... i went to different churches trying to find TRUTH.... I even taught deaf Sunday School in church....as I read several verison of Bibles... too many lies... thats when I lost interest in any Churches... then I attended to University of Illinois majoring in Psychology and Social Work.... one of electives i chose Religions.... and other was Evolutions......thats how I lost complete interest in any churches....too many lies...

 

[Reba]

OH Yeah... i went to different churches trying to find TRUTH.... I even taught deaf Sunday School in church....

I'm a little confused. If you didn't believe in God, how could you be a Sunday School teacher? How could you teach something in which you didn't believe?

as I read several verison of Bibles... too many lies...

Do you mean you found lies in the Bible? Do you mean God lied? Or do you mean the translations were lies?

thats when I lost interest in any Churches... then I attended to University of Illinois majoring in Psychology and Social Work.... one of electives i chose Religions.... and other was Evolutions....

OIC. You chose to believe in humanism rather than God. That's a common experience for many secular college students, especially in those majors.

...thats how I lost complete interest in any churches....too many lies...

But did God ever lie to you? No.

Preachers (and college instructors) are human; they make mistakes, and they can lie.

Churches (and colleges) are institutions made up of humans; they make mistakes, and they can lie.

God is NOT a human; He makes no mistakes, and He never lies.

 

[SxyPorkie]

I'm a little confused. If you didn't believe in God, how could you be a Sunday School teacher? How could you teach something in which you didn't believe?


Do you mean you found lies in the Bible? Do you mean God lied? Or do you mean the translations were lies?


OIC. You chose to believe in humanism rather than God. That's a common experience for many secular college students, especially in those majors.


But did God ever lie to you? No.

Preachers (and college instructors) are human; they make mistakes, and they can lie.

Churches (and colleges) are institutions made up of humans; they make mistakes, and they can lie.

God is NOT a human; He makes no mistakes, and He never lies.

I used to believe in religion when i was younger... thats when i taught sunday school.... i was searching for TRUTH....

 

[Yiffzer]

OH Yeah... i went to different churches trying to find TRUTH.... I even taught deaf Sunday School in church....as I read several verison of Bibles... too many lies... thats when I lost interest in any Churches... then I attended to University of Illinois majoring in Psychology and Social Work.... one of electives i chose Religions.... and other was Evolutions......thats how I lost complete interest in any churches....too many lies...

You repeat yourself endlessly.
And you're becoming delusional as time goes by.
:roll:

 

[Yiffzer]

I used to believe in religion when i was younger... thats when i taught sunday school.... i was searching for TRUTH....

You taught while searching for truth? So you never knew the truth whilst teaching? Ouch, you have misled quite a bunch of people then. :|

 

[SxyPorkie]

You taught while searching for truth? So you never knew the truth whilst teaching? Ouch, you have misled quite a bunch of people then. :|

We both are agnostic.. but sounds like you are toward God.. as for me i think i am toward Evolutions...hehehe.... in my book... you are COOL...I assume I am much older than you.. hahaha i am 62..this avatar is me... no grey hair or white hair.. runs in cherokee family....

 

[Yiffzer]

We both are agnostic.. but sounds like you are toward God.. as for me i think i am toward Evolutions...hehehe.... in my book... you are COOL...I assume I am much older than you.. hahaha i am 62..this avatar is me... no grey hair or white hair.. runs in cherokee family....

Well, thank you for considering me as "cool".

While I am agnostic, I still share an equal view on both sides. It's just that many people attack religion so often without understanding it that I have to rush to "defend" religion. It's not so much of defending religion but to give a more clearer idea of how religion works. It is clear to me that there are no actual truth and that faith would have to come to play. That is the only reason why I am not a believer of religion just yet; all because of faith.

 

[Cheri]

Yes, I know what verses is about. You didn´t answer my question... I am asking you again... Do you beleive what the bible says about "God kill you if you want to see his face"? Simple answer... Yes or No.

She doesn't mean it by that way, It's not that God will kill you, just because you want to see him, God is telling you, that it's not possible because it can kill you


It just like when you want to go near a sun to touch or see, You can't because You'll melt, just the same way she describing about God. Correct me if I'm wrong here, CyberRed.

 

[Maria]

She doesn't mean it by that way, It's not that God will kill you, just because you want to see him, God is telling you, that it's not possible because it can kill you

It just like when you want to go near a sun to touch or see, You can't because You'll melt, just the same way she describing about God. Correct me if I'm wrong here, CyberRed.

Yes, that's because we are sinners and the sins are still with us. Use this imagination I will give an example : The nuclear bomb drops in the sky without touchin' the ground and it explodes. The heat from it will expand to many miles and the heat will burn people's body in their distance ( I would say more than 50 miles away from one spot that has been exploded ). And, the people can feel the heat, it will melt their skin, their eyes will fall off its sockets, their hair will fall off from their scalps -- maybe, more than 3rd degree burn, or less -- dependin' on where they are at and how far or close they are to the bomb. But, with God's Light if, anyone wants to see His Face while they are in their flesh ( body ), His Light will burn them to ashes in no time, because of the sins we carry with us. God can not look at us. He is too perfect and Holy. When we die, our souls will change to become like Christ's and we will be able to see God's Face without killin' us, because we will become perfect in Heaven just like Jesus. His Light is also consumin' the darkness. It's why there's no darkness in Heaven.

 

[BearBeauty]

we all have our own opinions on God, Jesus, and the bible. And I think we all love our beliefs in our own way. So as long as each of us has something to believe in, we'll be alright.

My sister once said, "Everyone needs something to believe in." And I agree with her. Just Remember that not everyone will agree with you, and that's ok. Because the most important thing is what you believe in for yourself.

 

[Maria]

Oh, yeah of course.

 

[XBGMER]

via BB~> I actually find this evidence what the person already misinterptered verses from bible to the world included you. Therefore, Highest scripture had never saying that God kill you if you see his face... where this person get the damnt informations from??

In old testment: all prophets saw his face what he gave them's eye see.. You might have familar within the story of ACTS from new testment about stephen saw the son of man in heaven before he nearly died by eneimes threw stones.

If so, How hell do they know God's face has white beard, etc.. I bet that they been brainwashed by pictures on wall, cartoon, book, internet that the imagine they use.. they don't have any visual at all..

You see, it is a way of EVIDENCE, they are a matter of REFUSING THE EVIDENCE VERSE GIVEN. they using their own personal base from interptation, of refusal to accept God and His Word. HIGHEST Scripture is not written in a complex way. Only MAINLY reason: THEIR HEART IS NOT RIGHT!!

You or I have received some calls from this person and other christians furious that I or You are not agree with their theory. I/ YOU don't manipulated Scripture at all. They have picked THEIR DELUSIONS. THEIR HEARTS ARE NOT RIGHT. You could give them hundreds of verses to prove it that they would all be UTTERLY REJECTED. Why? Because for whatever reason buried in their secret heart, THEY CANNOT ACCEPT TRUTH/ FACT. God didn't make them live in their delusion ways.

Something is interesting to note that YOU KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THESE CHRISTIANS. Yet they are growing the delusion is cast down upon the earth. They honestly thinks they HAVE THE RIGHT. they HONESTLY THINKS Jesus Christ IS THE GOD OF ALL GOD'S. It is a delusion to cast those who embrace it, into the confusion of eternal delusions, for They are in the bottomless of DELUSION.

RESULT: their mind and HEART has suffer from DELUSIONALS!! <~

Exodus 33:20-23
" And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for man shall not see me and live. and Jehovah said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon the rock:and it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand until I have passed by:and I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my back; but my face shall not be seen. "

He spoke this to Moses. It was why He saved Moses from bein' killed, because God don't want Moses to see His Holy Face. When Moses was in Heaven, he shall be able to see His Face, but not when Moses was livin' on this earth phyiscally.

 

[Yiffzer]

I'm confused. So you're saying they are wrong to think that Jesus Christ is God? Or it is true that Jesus christ is?

 

[christlovedeaf]

wow with all these commotions. As for me, I see the things of evolutions and God. I see the mix in. Human theories just nothing but fragile, looking at God in human's POV. Evolutions has so much loopholes in it. As identify as God with white beard and etc, that is not what He looks like. We couldn't see God, but sense His presence. All the facts has been shown on History channels of histories in the Bible. But as a locations been skeptical. But many try soo hard to "claim" proof of Jesus for make attention and trying everyway to pervert who Christ really is. If there is no God, then, there is no such thing of crucifixion. The movie is so inspiring called, "Nativity Story". It's very moving. There are some preachers try to scare people, but that is not how Christ has taught. Many get the wrong idea about Bible, man made and wrote and miss out the point how it has been written. All of this creation, also missing out the point. As for me, personally, whether anyone believe or don't believe won't change a thing, bec will still see God eventually. And also, have no clue about God's holiness. Holiness and sin clashes. Like bleach and bacteria. God does not want to destroy people, but it is people who made the choices. "I'm not a christian bec....", it's all the blamegame. Does I have a great experiences with many christians, at first, I thought so. But found out later, they play game with me. Not all of them like that, but alot. Did I quit my faith, bec what "they" did? No. that won't make me escape. I make choices. My faith in Him remain strong and inspite, they condemn and judge my "sins" which they dont commit, but they have done evil as that. Bec each of us, will answer of all kinds, of our own accountabilities. Whether you believe or not, it will not change anything.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

She doesn't mean it by that way, It's not that God will kill you, just because you want to see him, God is telling you, that it's not possible because it can kill you

See her own word in her first post.

Originally Posted by CyberRed
If, you want to see God' Face or meet Him face to face, then He will KILL you. You will DROP dead.

Cheri's post
It just like when you want to go near a sun to touch or see, You can't because You'll melt, just the same way she describing about God. Correct me if I'm wrong here, CyberRed.

Yes, everyone knows we will melt if we want to see sun but CyberRed changed from "He" into "it" later after her first post.

CyberRed's post
I believe in God because, He was tellin' the truth. I will NOT ask Him to show me His Face. Moses asked Him to show His Face to Moses. It's why God told him No, because it will kill him. God don't want that to happen to him because, He loves Moses so much as He loves you, me and everyone so much, too.

Why don't you try to put your hand closer to the light bulb and see if, it can burn your hand's skin ? Why don't you try to put a little wet on the light bulb to see, if it dries up really fast ? Why don't you put a small food like a small speck on the light bulb to see, if it can burn the food ?

Same idea with God, because He is the Light and His Light can burn sins. His Light can kill sins. His Light's Watt is beyond THAN what we have at the stores. The bulbs are from 7 to 100 watts or maybe, more. It still feels the heat when you are closer to it. God's Light is very Hot than any bulbs at the store.

CyberRed, your description sound that it could be sun, not God.