White privilege

rockdrummer said:
I was trying to address all of the issues brought up in the OP. Discrimination was one of them.
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Discrimination is more the result of white privilege. It is much easier to detect and to counter. It is an overt behavior.
 
Jiro said:
cool but let's stick to topic, shall we? You can make another thread about caste system and skin color. This thread is about "White Privilege" in terms of sociological phenomenon. It does not necessarily mean white skin. It's about Anglo-Saxon / Caucasian people having a "preferred" treatment over minority race in America and the racism deep inside us on subconscious level that produces a preconceived notion about certain people.

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Excellent definition, Jiro!
 
Buffalo said:
According to this link: The Ainu of Japan: The History, Culture, and Discrimination Against this Aboriginal Group | Suite101.com they aren't privileged at all.
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That is interesting. They are absolutely a white Caucasian type people, with less privilege. Here is a 1902 picture of an Ainu group, after they were already being forcibly assimilated.

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Jiro said:
this is why you should heed my advice in my post #294. Since this is sociology-related issue.... you really should use sociology-related reference. since I'm not able to access to my university's database (technical difficulty) at this moment... here are what I found from quick search -

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Jillio's definitions remain correct. That's why there is a field called sociology dedicated to this type of matter. On the surface, discrimination and prejudice may look the same thing. When you dissect it, it is not.

Perfect analogy - human twins look exactly the same but deep inside - they are different.
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Exactly. The important point to remember is that one can indeed be prejudiced without acting in a discriminatory manner. While they often go hand in hand, they are really quite separate.
 
CJB said:
Me too. Even as a white person myself it depresses me that other members of my race deny this because they feel personally accused and attacked or uncomfortable. And rather than admit and own their own feelings they project it onto people of color and call it off as a cop-out. :( :(
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That is exactly how it works. It is insidious.
 
DURAY said:
how are you gonna have affirmative action without a quota system?

African-Americans also have their own black privileges (Jack and Jill clubs, HBCU, fraternity and sorority which emphasized physical abuse, etc.
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Clubs have virtually nothing to do with white privilege.
 
DURAY said:
how are you gonna have affirmative action without a quota system?

African-Americans also have their own black privileges (Jack and Jill clubs, HBCU, fraternity and sorority which emphasized physical abuse, etc.
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Black people might have "black privilege" within their black community, but in society as a whole, white people clearly hold the privilege.
 
white privilege has to do with institutional, systemic and historical "power-over", not with individuals within certain sub-groups <i.e, African-American sororities or whatever>
 
dogmom said:
white privilege has to do with institutional, systemic and historical "power-over", not with individuals within certain sub-groups <i.e, African-American sororities or whatever>
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Bingo. And quite often, it cannot be related to a specific action that would be considered discriminatory behavior, but a generalized system of thought.
 
Just saw the posts where this topic stem from.

I thank my mom everyday for producing a white male baby. Why? Anyone that can't see the privileges granted with being a male and white gotta be either be blind or oblivious.

I see First Nations and Inuits get treated like crap. When I was living in Grande Prairie, bankers, tellers, lawyers and so on would rather talk to a DEAF male over a HEARING female. Is that messed up? Yes. There are privileges that come with being white, and being a male.

The discrimination I face is because of the anger toward first-generation immigrants, and the misunderstanding of deaf people and their language. The prior will disappear once another immigration wave take place from another part of the world, and the latter? Not much you can do about it as long majority of the deaf population are late-deafened and honestly believe they are disabled. However those two are nothing in comparison to "male privilege" and "white privileges."

So anyone that can't see the shift of behaviour in people from when they are talking to an aboriginal person from a white person, or a shift from male to female is oblivious... or really stupid.
 
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souggy said:
Just saw the posts where this topic stem from.

I thank my mom everyday for producing a white male baby. Why? Anyone that can't see the privileges granted with being a male and white gotta be either be blind or oblivious.

I see First Nations and Inuits get treated like crap. When I was living in Grande Prairie, bankers, tellers, lawyers and son would rather talk to a DEAF male over a HEARING female. Is that messed up? Yes. There are privileges that come with being white, and being a male.

The discrimination I face is because of the anger toward first-generation immigrants, and the misunderstanding of deaf people and their language. The prior will disappear once another immigration wave take place from another part of the world, and the latter? Not much you can do about it as long majority of the deaf population are late-deafened and honestly believe they are disabled. However those two are nothing in comparison to "male privilege" and "white privileges."

So anyone that can't see the shift of behaviour in people from when they are talking to an aboriginal person from a white person, or a shift from male to female is oblivious... or really stupid.
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Well said, souggy. And I would say it is intentional oblivion. One becomes comfortable with taking advantage of that privilege, and doesn't want to recognize it, for fear that they will then loose that privilege.
 
jillio said:
Well said, souggy. And I would say it is intentional oblivion. One becomes comfortable with taking advantage of that privilege, and doesn't want to recognize it, for fear that they will then loose that privilege.
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Grande Prairie was a culture shock to me and my mom when we moved there. She grew up in Calgary all her life, so she got her own apartment, her own phone number and credit card and so on without a co-signer. But when she and my stepdad moved up north to G.P., she couldn't do anything without people saying "can we speak to your husband," or "can we speak with your boyfriend?" She never knew that such culture still existed, and thought it died out with my grandmother's generation.

When she tried to address this with other women, they denied that it existed... and majority of them have co-signed credit cards. She just couldn't believe it because the last time she saw a co-signed credit card (of someone that isn't a minor) was in the '70s. (By the way, joint accounts are different from "co-signed.")
 
Wow, that is odd. I've had my own credit cards, car loans and telephone accounts in my name, etc., since the early 1970's. I've never used a co-signer.
 
Reba said:
Wow, that is odd. I've had my own credit cards, car loans and telephone accounts in my name, etc., since the early 1970's. I've never used a co-signer.
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where were you in 70's? maybe it varied among states at that time???
 
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