What kind of Jewish are you?

What kind of Jewish are you?

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hootster said:
Heath,

The Jews, as a whole, tend to be extremely well educated and have a good support system to help each other out. Becuase of that, its not a concidence that they tend to climb the rankings and take the top positions especially when it involves science and finances. Its not hard to see that.

All this conspriacy theories about the Jews are just a front to mask their hatred for the Jews and to give people excuses to surpress them. This kind of crap isnt new. Its been going on since the Jews "killed" Jesus. The only thing that changes with time are the conspriacy theories.
soooo...the Nazis hates the jews cause they are smarter and better than them. not surprised there.

*shooking head* it's not even the Jews' fault for being THAT smart.
 
Steel X said:
soooo...the Nazis hates the jews cause they are smarter and better than them. not surprised there.

*shooking head* it's not even the Jews' fault for being THAT smart.

A lot of Anti-Semitism comes from the fact that Jews are often successful in life... And that success comes from a combination of the values they are raised with and the insistence on good education. Anti-Semitic people are usually raised without a strong sense of morality and without a good education. As a result of this, Anti-Semitic people assume that there's this massive Jewish conspiracy out there because Jews are actually trying hard and doing their best.


Heath, I'm sorry, but it's your fault, not the Jews' fault, that you can't seem to get educated and that you are a morally bankrupt individual who uses religion as a justification for all manner of evil. Don't blame the Jews for your own failings and weaknesses. Go get educated and prove that you're better if it's really that important to you.
 
These are none of the reasons why the Nazis hated the jews.

It is really simple. the jews were morally corrupting people and using money for evil purposes usury with interest and the prostitution going on and the manipulating of politics. the Nazis put a very effective stop to that when Germany, even before Nazism was rising to power. Germany saw that the jews in Russia were causing so much trouble for ordinary Russian people and making the Russians really suffer under communism which is also jewish then a combination of factors inside Germany led the Germans to say no and reject the concepts of jewish communism, just take a good look at China, Cuba, North Korea today, All a product of jewish communism. Even America said no to communism and America was not interested in the events unfolding in Europe until both of America's coasts were threatened ( Normandy and Pearl Harbor ) America could not care less what was going on in Europe at that time and America wanted to be left alone. America remained superior in the face of jewish communism for more than 50 years then the state of Israel had to change tactics to try to get a foothold into America. America was not exactly friendly towards the state of Israel even though the media and Hollywood will tell you Americans really helped and supported jews. From talking to both American WW II veterans and some German veterans. They both said that they are very upset with the portrayal of the events that unfolded and they both really resent Israel for controlling the American media when these war veterans knew the real conditions and reasons why the war expolded on a world wide scale in the first place because they lived through these times.
 
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Heath said:
These are none of the reasons why the Nazis hated the jews.

Then you know absolutely nothing about history.

Heath said:
It is really simple. the jews were morally corrupting people and using money for evil purposes usury with interest and the prostitution going on and the manipulating of politics.

Cite a source.

Heath said:
the Nazis put a very effective stop to that when Germany, even before Nazism was rising to power. Germany saw that the jews in Russia were causing so much trouble for ordinary Russian people and making the Russians really suffer under communism which is also jewish

While severeal of the Bolsheviks were ethnically Jewish, they were Anti-Semitic Jews and whilst installing Communism they essentially made religions (Judaism included) illegal. Communism is not a Jewish idea, nor were the Jews in Russia "causing so much trouble for ordinary Russian people".

Karl Marx, for example, while he had Jewish ancestry, was raised Lutheran, though he was not a Bolshevik himself. Leon Trotsky, who also had Jewish ancestry, was raised in an agnostic household. Vladimir Lenin was raised Russian Orthodox, Jewish ancestry aside.

Read this Wikipedia entry on the issue of Soviet Russia as an Anti-Semitic state.

Heath said:
then a combination of factors inside Germany led the Germans to say no and reject the concepts of jewish communism, just take a good look at China, Cuba, North Korea today, All a product of jewish communism.

I don't recall reading anything indicating that Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro or Kim Jong-Il are Jewish. Can you cite a source?

Heath said:
Even America said no to communism and America was not interested in the events unfolding in Europe until both of America's coasts were threatened ( Normandy and Pearl Harbor )

Normandy is in France, not America.

Heath said:
America remained superior in the face of jewish communism for more than 50 years then the state of Israel had to change tactics to try to get a foothold into America.

The state of Israel has a foothold in America? Heh. Seriously, you're just too funny sometimes.

Heath said:
America was not exactly friendly towards the state of Israel even though the media and Hollywood will tell you Americans really helped and supported jews. From talking to both American WW II veterans and some German veterans. They both said that they are very upset with the portrayal of the events that unfolded and they both really resent Israel for controlling the American media when these war veterans knew the real conditions and reasons why the war expolded on a world wide scale in the first place because they lived through these times.

I don't know what war veterans you know (they're probably just imagined in your head, though), but Jews in the US have never had the capability of doing what you described, let alone the desire. 1% of the American population is Jewish. Deal with it.
 
hottiedeafboi said:
PRAISE THE LORD, throwstones. That's a beautiful way of you shared the truth. Yes, all thru the old testaments, prophesied that Jesus (Y'shua) is a Messiah. May God use you to share the Truth of the Gospel. Smile

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God bless you, Hottiedeafboi! Thank you for supporting my comments to anyone about our Adonai Y'shua!

Throwstones :angel:
 
Heath said:

Lovely how you ignore responses that cripple your argument. But that makes sense, you're Anti-Semitic. You hold on to that hate with all your might because you lack the life experience and the knowledge to think otherwise.

University will change you... Or destroy you. You will adapt to the way the rest of the world thinks, or the world will destroy you. Whether you can make that change will determine if you are a genius... or a fool.
 
Teresh said:
Lovely how you ignore responses that cripple your argument. But that makes sense, you're Anti-Semitic. You hold on to that hate with all your might because you lack the life experience and the knowledge to think otherwise.

University will change you... Or destroy you. You will adapt to the way the rest of the world thinks, or the world will destroy you. Whether you can make that change will determine if you are a genius... or a fool.

It does not matter what I think. It matters how the IDF enslaves people and makes the whole world pissed off at Israel. Even the Israelis that I have met and talked to are afraid of their own Israeli government.

I have gone through worse things than what I will experience when I go to college so there is not anything else that has been done to me that already has been done to me. My experiences already have cemented my beliefs.
 
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Heath said:
It does not matter what I think. It matters how the IDF enslaves people and makes the whole world pissed off at Israel. Even the Israelis that I have met and talked to are afraid of their own government.

I never said Israel was a perfect state, nor that they've never done any wrong. You assume that that's what I think because, unlike you, I am not Anti-Semitic, therefore I must believe in Zionism, and therefore I must be so naive to think that Israel is without sin.

Heath said:
I have gone through worse things than what I will experience when I go to college so there is not anything else that has been done to me that already has been done to me. My experiences already have cemented my beliefs.

If you cannot adapt, you will be destroyed. I'd give you an 80% chance of being kicked out or leaving just because most people won't like you. It's not natural selection, it's just society weeding out people what aren't willing to be agreeable about anything.
 
Teresh said:
I never said Israel was a perfect state, nor that they've never done any wrong. You assume that that's what I think because, unlike you, I am not Anti-Semitic, therefore I must believe in Zionism, and therefore I must be so naive to think that Israel is without sin.



If you cannot adapt, you will be destroyed. I'd give you an 80% chance of being kicked out or leaving just because most people won't like you. It's not natural selection, it's just society weeding out people what aren't willing to be agreeable about anything.

As a result of a jewish controlled university system. Most universities today are very liberal and not so focused on the solid education of our American youth thanks alots to you. American universities in the 1940's regularly was in the top ranking of all the country's national educational system. Recently a university gave credit to the students who go to a pro-immigrant rally but will give negative credit to the students who to to a Pro-American rally. What does that say about the jewish controlled university liberal sytem here in America and why is there the intentional dumbing down of America by the jewish liberal establishment ?http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/
 
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Heath said:
As a result of a jewish controlled university system.

Evidence?

Heath said:
Most universities today are very liberal and not so focused on the solid education of our American youth thanks alots to you.

Universities have always been a few steps ahead of the rest of the world. Younger people are almost always more liberal than older people. That is a simple sociological fact which has been the case since the dawn of civilisation. Thanks to me, however? What did I do? I'm only 19. I don't believe my life has had any profound impact on the world. (If it has, correct me. I must've done something awesome and no one told me.)

Heath said:
Recently a university gave credit to the students who go to a pro-immigrant rally but will give negative credit to the students who to to a Pro-American rally.

And what university was this?

Heath said:
What does that say about the jewish controlled university liberal sytem here in America ?

It says absolutely nothing since the university system isn't controlled by Jews any more than it is controlled by anyone else. Universities are private institutions which make their own policies and set their own precedents. The government has no power over the universities in this nation, nor does some Jewish conspiracy you fallacitously believe exists.


You're living in a world of make-believe Heath. You're living in that world because you are not willing to face the fact that you are the cause of all of your problems. You have brought your failures upon yourself. You want someone to blame to comfort yourself, make yourself feel better. Jews are just a convenient scapegoat that you are willing to believe are responsible because you have no life experience or knowledge of the world.
 
The more older you get you will see what your own people are doing to the rest of the world and you will not like what you see, you will even find yourself writing to the Israeli Knesset and the US Congress and the US Senate to have the Israelites stop interfering in American matters and for the Israelites to focus on Israel's own problems.

Young people always want to think they are smarter than their elders when that is not true.

If I told you what university was giving credit to students who attend pro-immigrant rallies then you will be shouting with joy and rub your hands with glee and you will want to go to that university to further the destruction of America. Un-seen of course. Why should I help you?

Un-like you that thinks I live in a make believe world, I am very active and very involved in politics and doing my American Duty to fight the good fight that has grown and taken root in America. I write letters to the US Congress & the US Senate and I sign many Pro-American petitions.

Finally, Why don't you look online and read from the KJV Holy Bible to see what Jesus Christ had to say about the Israelites.

I can tell you for a fact that if Israel obeyed Jesus Christ then the world would not hate Israel so much then think about Romans 10:1 then Romans 10:9 in the KJV Holy Bible.
 
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Even the Israelis that I have met and talked to are afraid of their own Israeli government.
So? I'm afraid of our government (Patroit act etc)
There are creeps of all stripes.
Oh, and that Jesus remark......Jesus was a JEW!!!!!! His followers called Him RABBI (which is a JEWISH teacher)
 
deafdyke said:
So? I'm afraid of our government (Patroit act etc)
There are creeps of all stripes.
Oh, and that Jesus remark......Jesus was a JEW!!!!!! His followers called Him RABBI (which is a JEWISH teacher)

If you knew to the extent the atrocities the Israeli government is commiting against their own people, the Israelites themselves. You'd be afraid too but also with a righteous anger as well.

Rabbi means one person, That was Jesus Christ , not tens of thousands of rabbis. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew 23:1-33;&version=9;
 
Heath said:
The more older you get you will see what your own people are doing to the rest of the world and you will not like what you see, you will even find yourself writing to the Israeli Knesset and the US Congress and the US Senate to have the Israelites stop interfering in American matters and for the Israelites to focus on Israel's own problems.

My people? I don't have one of these "people" that you speak of. Where can I get one? Here's a curveball for you, Heath: I'm not a Jew. That said, nothing could get me to have such unfettered hate for Jews as you do. I'm not quite as sheltered as you are. I actually have some experience dealing with all sorts of people (Jews included), so I know a lot about the differences people have that you don't. And with that knowledge, I know I'm a fool to hate them because of the color of their skin, their religious beliefs, their gender, their sexual orientation, etc.

Nothing could ever happen in my life to get me to fall to your level. I'm not personally incredibly Pro-Israel per se, but regardless, I will never be Anti-Semitic. I have too many Jewish friends for that.

Heath said:
Young people always want to think they are smarter than their elders when that is not true.

Considering I've had half of a university education and you have not, like it or not Heath, I do have a lot more knowledge than you do. I never claimed to be smarter or more intelligent than you are. I may well be, but I said knowledge, not intelligence. And the fact of the matter is, yes, I have more knowledge than you do.

Heath said:
If I told you what university was giving credit to students who attend pro-immigrant rallies then you will be shouting with joy and rub your hands with glee and you will want to go to that university to further the destruction of America. Un-seen of course. Why should I help you?

Um... Right. As a native-born patriotic American, I take offense to that.

I practiced Buddhism for quite some time earlier in my life, and while I am not practicing it anymore, the Five Precepts are still very much a part of my moral code. One of them is "Do Not Lie". I can say with absolute honesty that I have no interest in seeing America destroyed by a Jewish conspiracy. If you could cite the example, the case would annoy me, just like any other patriotic American. However, I'm also knowledgeable enough to know that there is no Jewish conspiracy and you're just making it up in order to make yourself feel better.

You're just making excuses for the fact that a lot of your argument is just made up and has little basis in reality. You can't cite examples for a lot of the things you're saying because the examples don't exist in real life--you only imagine them.

Heath said:
Un-like you that thinks I live in a make believe world, I am very active and very involved in politics and doing my American Duty to fight the good fight that has grown and taken root in America. I write letters to the US Congress & the US Senate and I sign many Pro-American petitions.

You're not the only one involved in politics. I'm just largely on the opposite side of you because I don't hate everyone different from me.

Heath said:
Finally, Why don't you look online and read from the KJV Holy Bible to see what Jesus Christ had to say about the Israelites.

I'll pass because I don't see the point since I'm not Christian. What your prophet said about the Israelites means nothing to me because he's not an important figure (or even worth mentioning) in the scope of my religious beliefs.

But if I really was so motivated, I'd pick a better translation than KJV.

Heath said:
Rabbi means one person, That was Jesus Christ , not tens of thousands of rabbis.

Most of the rabbis I know would be inclined to disagree with you on that.
 
Heath said:
...It is really simple. the jews were morally corrupting people and using money for evil purposes usury with interest and the prostitution going on and the manipulating of politics.
Wow, that sounds like 20th century Italian Mafia in the United States. Maybe we should exterminate all the Italians.


Germany saw that the jews in Russia were causing so much trouble for ordinary Russian people and making the Russians really suffer under communism which is also jewish...
Excuse me? The Jews in Russia were persecuted by the Czar AND the Communists. Stalin slaughtered millions of them.


...just take a good look at China, Cuba, North Korea today, All a product of jewish communism.
OK, I'll take a good look. Hmmm...the communists in China look CHINESE (remember Mao, his Little Red Book, and the cultural revolution), the Communists in North Korea look KOREAN, and the communists in Cuba look CUBAN (with a few leftover Russians from the Cold War).


...America was not interested in the events unfolding in Europe until both of America's coasts were threatened ( Normandy and Pearl Harbor ) ...
Normandy is NOT a coast of America. The Allied armies attacked the German army in Normandy on D-Day, June 6, 1944.


America could not care less what was going on in Europe at that time and America wanted to be left alone.
Americans were hesitant to send troops into a foreign war, especially with the memories of WWI fresh in their minds. But that doesn't mean they didn't care. Thru the American lend lease program to England, and other means of financial, material, and logistical support, Americans made it clear with whom they sided. Many American individuals didn't wait for the USA to enter the war, and enlisted in the armies of other Allied nations.
 
hootster said:
...All this conspriacy theories about the Jews are just a front to mask their hatred for the Jews and to give people excuses to surpress them. This kind of crap isnt new. Its been going on since the Jews "killed" Jesus. The only thing that changes with time are the conspriacy theories.
Hatred for the Jews, and a desire to exterminate them is even older than that.

In the Book of Esther, jealous Haman tried to get the Jews wiped out thru government decree.

Esther 3:6 "... Haman sought to destroy all the Jews that were throughout the whole kingdom of Ahasuerus...."

Haman failed, just as Hitler failed, just as anyone else who tries to destroy the chosen people of God will fail.
 
Teresh said:
It says absolutely nothing since the university system isn't controlled by Jews any more than it is controlled by anyone else. Universities are private institutions which make their own policies and set their own precedents. The government has no power over the universities in this nation, nor does some Jewish conspiracy you fallacitously believe exists.
I agree that universities are not being run by a Jewish conspiracy.

However, I do want to clarify something. There are private universities, and there are public (state) universities. The government does have control of state universities in the sense that the government provides the funding for the schools.
 
Heath said:
... My experiences already have cemented my beliefs.
Heath, you have to temper your personal experiences with research and common sense. You experiences are important but they are just a microcosm of events. None of us are the center of the universe.
 
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