What is it so bad about CI?

But GA remember that is not always true for every Cier. You met me and I am a Cier,did I try to force it on you?

The ones that do this are NOT the majority of us that has chosen to go the CI route.

I accept my friends as CIers OR NOT Ciers. The only thing I care about is communication and personalities of each person.

Likely I said, other CI'ers who have done that way.. Why can't accept each together understanding openings? I've read some other ci'ers statement.. why can't they ?
Why can't Deaf expression their pov sharing others.. but ci'ers refused ACCEPT.
That what I'm trying point it out.. I didn't referring you.. I say " for general everyone... "

I hope they could accept them as everyone being equally.
 
oh its alright when you clairify where it was supposed to be then you're fine.
can I ask you question, why do you feel that way, explain it little more? Do you considered it an threat to deaf community? And what if deaf child beg you to give them CI and what you would do? Also remember to reply it in calm, adult manner please, thank you :)

Why I feel that way about what? CI in general?
Just think two worlds is ok....
It's really new topic for me I haven't considered deeply. As I'm not quite quite at that severe loss level....veering to it now older and rhuematoid. But my experience fitting in to mainstream as moderate-severe hoh. Think it just could make life easier sometimes. We all know the frustrations. The anger. It's like being paranoid-schizo and not wanting meds cuz too paranoid and think being drugged for evil purpose. Or resent society so will shut out against it and refuse to be a part of it. If one is so angry as to shut out society then why even bring a kid into that society let alone deny him/her mainstream and have him/her experience that same anger/frustrations.
ahh.....if a kid begged for long time I would prolly tell them maybe next year...etc give it some time and see if they really still want it.
Then I'd tell the kid to get a paper route....lol j/k
Myself....dont think I would want something that big stuck in my head....and what I hear about cana't go swimming????
 
And no I don't consider it a threat to deaf community....I think deaf community is stronger than that implication.
 
....and what I hear about cana't go swimming????

You can, you just take off the external speech processor like a hearing aid and go swimming. I was in the pool a few weeks after surgery. If you want to see what a scare looks like then check out Jamie Berke's about.com


One Week With the Cochlear Implant

It really is not that "big" in your head. I don't even feel it.
 
You can, you just take off the external speech processor like a hearing aid and go swimming. I was in the pool a few weeks after surgery. If you want to see what a scare looks like then check out Jamie Berke's about.com


One Week With the Cochlear Implant

It really is not that "big" in your head. I don't even feel it.

I cant even find mine...just hope doc remembered to pop it in before he stittched me up......:giggle:
 
I cant even find mine...just hope doc remembered to pop it in before he stittched me up......:giggle:

i KNOW that feeling! I was worried if he forgot to put in or add something like little magnet part of internal implant haha! but as soon you get activated and swelling goes down you'll feel the shape of it, its weird.
 
Oh Thank u for understanding about deaf culture! GalaxyAngel! !

Thats why, I cant do anything about this issue. :dunno2:

Hey, I noticed your baby in background with ur husband. how old is baby ? ?


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Just one more thing, I thanked to my parents that they didn't put me into CI! Thank God.

I'm very lucky. I'm very proud be deaf and my life is just wonderful! I just pray for others about CI! ! CI don't need to !:wiggle:

God Bless you~


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No it's working fine!

ahh FINALLY it work yay! Well I feel opposite, I feel like Non-CI-ers 'disown" me and push me out of deaf community... I do want stay in deaf community because I love ASL and talk to people thats deaf like me. But they dont accept me and kick me out of Oregon's deaf community... I still feel same, I'm still same deaf woman... I just want people respect me and treat me same as before because I'm still same! I never try force CI on anyone or act like I'm better than everyone I will never do that!

I'm thinking about doing Vlog but I'm very shy!
 
Well I've read your thread before, but back off. Now I guess I am going to answer your question while myself a CI user, and against implanize the children.

I can't help but wonder why is it so bad about CI?

Because CI is not for ALL of deaf. It will never work for all the deafies. Also most of the times, we the deafies do feel offense when some of deafies reject the sign languages and focus on the CI, making us look like a lame which are proud of our ridicilious deafness, or we don't want to feel that way, do we? We want to be proud of being deaf and proud how we communicate.

What about it that considered an threat to Deaf Communty/Culture/Identity?

If the CI are on ALL of the deafies, and ALL of the deafies know how to talk, would the ASL be important to them? What if they don't care about the ASL anymore? How can that help our community?

How is it different than hearing aid?

Well the only thing I can say about this is that HA don't require surgery which are BIG benefitically for those parents who want their children to talk, instead of implanize them and found out that the CI doesn't work for them which could mess the children up.

Why can't you be deaf and have CI?

Well, I am deaf and have CI :ugh3:

Why it have to be "you got ci? Ur not deaf anymore" or something that implied that we were trying to fix our hearing or to try to be hearing?

Only hearies who have less or no knowledge of the deaf culture and communities would think that way, trust me.

There's a lot of questions running around in my head. But I'll start with basics to see and maybe I'll understand or still confused about why CI is such a controversy and that it has to be single sided. And I see it all time "I don't need CI I'm proud to be deaf" or "I don't need CI I'm proud to be deaf and hearing aid is good enough" or anything related to it like it somehow cancel out the deafness in some sort.
Well please submit your opinion, explaination or whatever that might help me understand better.

Well while you got your own CI, I see it as your personal choice, that's why I told you to have a good luck about getting a CI. If I see a parents implanize their children without talk with the children about the CI, or even worse the children don't want the CI, then I will NEVER tell them a "good luck", sorry I have to be blunt, I still see it as abuse. Abusing the child's personal choice and freedom for his/her OWN body.

That's another reason why I didn't blame my parents for my own choice to have the CI, I have my CI as my personal choice, and when I want to use it, it would be also my personal choice. :)

And please be respectful in this thread and stay in calm manner to keep this from spinning out of control. :)

Sure will try to do that.
 
I highly doubt that will ever get passed. It could get proposed in FDA meeting but I'm pretty sure it won't get approved. Since million of controversal medical or educational proposal, idea, theory, device, anything get brought up in FDA meeting but high percentage get denied or turned down. So...

Perhaps it won't be passed into law, but it could quite easily become protocol within the medical establishment.
 
I could be wrong about the FDA but the doctors are writing a proposal about requiring implanted babies to be enrolled in oral only programs instead of BiBi programs. I dont know which agency are they going to submit it to but I think it is the FDA. Like I said, I will ask my friend tmw for more clarification. I was driving when she told me about this so I wasnt paying full attention to it.

Could be that they are just pushing for it to become standard protocol through the AMA. Similar to what is going on in Candada right now.
 
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