What Induces Fear?

That phrasing right there has been occurring throughout this thread. I don't think anyone of us are in a place to tell other people how they feel or why they feel the way they do.

I think we should just focus on explaining how we feel, and we should try our best to validate other people's feelings, rather than telling them what they feel or why they feel the way they do.

typeingtornado asked why she felt depressed, so i answered. if she (or anyone else) doesn't want to hear anyone speculate about why they are experiencing the feelings they are, perhaps they ought to see a therapist instead of discussing those topics here on ad.
 
How can you know for sure if the depression is completely separate? I often get very depressed right before a flashback or right after, and the number of times that has happened lead me to believe they are related.

personally, i think there has been *alot* of confusing and conflicting information shared in this thread and it might be best for anyone concerned about what they are experiencing to see a therapist to discuss their symptoms further.

i thought i was starting to understand flashbacks, but now i'm more confused than ever.

rather than asking further questions here on ad, i'm going to talk to my therapist instead so i can get consistent and accurate information.
 
I think a subject change would be a good idea. I have been getting a bit frustrated with people outright denying my experience, so I will change the subject.

Other things that induce fear: large amounts of reading that I have to do.
 
personally, i think there has been *alot* of confusing and conflicting information shared in this thread and it might be best for anyone concerned about what they are experiencing to see a therapist to discuss their symptoms further.

i thought i was starting to understand flashbacks, but now i'm more confused than ever.

rather than asking further questions here on ad, i'm going to talk to my therapist instead so i can get consistent and accurate information.

I agree.
 
I think a subject change would be a good idea. I have been getting a bit frustrated with people outright denying my experience, so I will change the subject.

Other things that induce fear: large amounts of reading that I have to do.

before i change topics, i just want to say that there was only one poster who flat out denied your symptoms. no one else did -- including me. all i did was ask questions about your experiences so i had a better understanding of what happened to you. if you felt that i was attacking you, i apologize, but i really don't think i was.
 
I don't think you were flat out denying my experience either Hear Again, but I think more than one other poster was.
 
I don't think you were flat out denying my experience either Hear Again, but I think more than one other poster was.

okay. i just wanted to make it clear that i wasn't denying anything you went through. thanks, nika.
 
Change of environment doesn't do much. Even when I travel I have my nightly flashbacks. For me the act of going to sleep is as much a trigger as my bedroom. I have done everything I could think of: meditation, herbal tea, exercise, no caffeine or sugar, distraction, truly convincing myself I wouldn't have a flashback--but they still come.

I have memories and I have flashbacks of my experiences, and the two are quite distinct. My flashbacks are much more vivid, they feel like they're happening over again, and I think I'm actually X years old again and I think the year is 199X/200X. During my memories, I am still aware that I am 19 and the year is 2009. In fact I can talk about my memories while remaining somewhat in the present (although I admit I do dissociate lightly when talking about my memories.) With my flashbacks, I'm in another place entirely.

It would be nice jillio if you just took my experience for what it was instead of trying to explain it within the frame of what you may have officially studied. I have had so many doctors deny me on the basis that they learned "this is impossible" or "that is impossible," but it obviously is since I am experiencing it. Many medical professionals get caught up in whether someone's case matches the textbook example, and take in the black and white statements made in many textbooks too heavily. There are always exceptions, there are patients whose cases stray from the classic one. So it would be nice if instead of telling me that what I feel is impossible, you can come to realize that maybe I know what I feel and that maybe my case is unusual.

Okay, I guess you are just one of the untreatable who are doomed to suffer their entire life.:roll:
 
Okay, I guess you are just one of the untreatable who are doomed to suffer their entire life.:roll:

Things have improved for me a lot over the years. I hardly consider myself untreatable or "doomed to suffer."
 
"Change of environment doesn't do much. Even when I travel I have my nightly flashbacks. For me the act of going to sleep is as much a trigger as my bedroom. I have done everything I could think of: meditation, herbal tea, exercise, no caffeine or sugar, distraction, truly convincing myself I wouldn't have a flashback--but they still come.

I have memories and I have flashbacks of my experiences, and the two are quite distinct. My flashbacks are much more vivid, they feel like they're happening over again, and I think I'm actually X years old again and I think the year is 199X/200X. During my memories, I am still aware that I am 19 and the year is 2009. In fact I can talk about my memories while remaining somewhat in the present (although I admit I do dissociate lightly when talking about my memories.) With my flashbacks, I'm in another place entirely.

It would be nice jillio if you just took my experience for what it was instead of trying to explain it within the frame of what you may have officially studied. I have had so many doctors deny me on the basis that they learned "this is impossible" or "that is impossible," but it obviously is since I am experiencing it. Many medical professionals get caught up in whether someone's case matches the textbook example, and take in the black and white statements made in many textbooks too heavily. There are always exceptions, there are patients whose cases stray from the classic one. So it would be nice if instead of telling me that what I feel is impossible, you can come to realize that maybe I know what I feel and that maybe my case is unusual."


nika,

i'm confused about something. you said that during your flashbacks you go to x years old, but at the same time you said that you're aware of the fact that you're 19 and the year is 2009. how is it possible for one to have lack of consciousness and consciousness at the same time during a flashback?

also, how do you have a coherent discussion with someone if you are "somewhat in the present?"

even when i experience moderate auditory hallucinations due to my bipolar when on meds, i'm unable to conduct any conversation because i'm too focused on the voices i am hearing.
 
I said: My flashbacks are much more vivid, they feel like they're happening over again, and I think I'm actually X years old again and I think the year is 199X/200X. During my memories, I am still aware that I am 19 and the year is 2009.

My memories are different from my flashbacks. My memories are free of emotion, my flashbacks are loaded with emotion. Anyone can have a discussion while lightly dissociated. I'm lightly dissociated right now.
 
i'm confused. so then you feel depressed after your flashback because i don't think depression can cause a flashback -- unless i'm wrong. (ocean or jillio please correct me if i am.)

Trauma causes flashbacks; not depression. Depression can co-exist, but it doesn't cause flashbacks. Depression is a symptom of PTSD and it's one of the reasons why the SSRI anti depressants can help PTSD.
 
How can you know for sure if the depression is completely separate? I often get very depressed right before a flashback or right after, and the number of times that has happened lead me to believe they are related.

Do yourself and us a favor. Ask your therapist.
 
Trauma causes flashbacks; not depression. Depression can co-exist, but it doesn't cause flashbacks. Depression is a symptom of PTSD and it's one of the reasons why the SSRI anti depressants can help PTSD.

that's exactly what my therapist told me. thank you for the explanation, ocean.
 
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