What if there is NO WAR?

Sheila said:
There are some people that no matter what, cannot talk things out or be civil.
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My last neibour was like that. He complained about the noise of my chinchilla excercise wheel. I complained about a lot of other things such as putting concrete slabs against my shed door, turning the path into an asault course, leaving food and broken glass lying around in Jilli's garden. That kind of thing. No I didn't drop a bomb on him (even though the thought did have it's apeal). I just ignored him and was glad when he went to jail for dealing in cocain.
 
Texan Guy said:
Come on, warriors and politicans are suppose to be separate. Many politicans, but the combat veterans like McCain or Kerry, doesn't know how to control the war.
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How the hell do you expect war and politics to be separate? Right now, we've got the president as our commander in chief for the military here in the US, SO politics does get involved in war.

And in every country, the highest ranking executive no matter if it be king, president, parliament, whatever, is that country's commander in chief of their Military. So you honestly have to admit politics plays a large role in military life.
 
BearBeauty said:
How the hell do you expect war and politics to be separate? Right now, we've got the president as our commander in chief for the military here in the US, SO politics does get involved in war.

And in every country, the highest ranking executive no matter if it be king, president, parliament, whatever, is that country's commander in chief of their Military. So you honestly have to admit politics plays a large role in military life.
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:gpost: And all of these leaders have some deep religious beliefs that may not coexist with other religions. What war EVER has not been involved with politics or religion?
 
Calphool said:
Yet, we can't just sweep WWI under the rug. WWII was directly related to the stupid way WWI started and then ended. If our great grandparents had had the sense to sit down and talk in 1914 and negotiate rather than puff themselves up full of nationalistic, imperialistic, militaristic nonsense, WWII would never have happened, because the Nazis would never have come to power. So, I agree that once you've got a giant puss filled boil (Hitler-like dictator), you have to lance it (go to war), but the bigger question is: Why didn't you wash your bum better in the first place (work with other friendly countries cooperatively, before there's a problem), so you didn't end up with a giant boil? That relates to what we're experiencing today with Iraq as well. To some degree, the USA (my country) is acting like the Axis or Allies of WWI. We've puffed outselves up like we have the right to invade other countries preemptively, when we don't (by virtue of our very own standards of right and wrong). As my grandma used to say, two wrongs don't make a right. Sadam was bad, but invading his country didn't put us in the right. Sadam was not Hitler -- at best he was a Manuel Noriega type character.
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Yeah, I pretty much agree with you on WWI. To be honest though, my knowledge on that war is pretty limited, and most of it I learned from Barbaro's excellent post on the subject in another thread. I've always been more interested in WWII. Anyway, in any war, at least one side is misbehaving (and often both). If both sides were good, they wouldn't go to war in the first place.

You have a respectable opinion on Iraq. I just didn't want to get into it because I'm sick of that debate. It's the same feeling I get when I see Paris Hilton on the news. Perhaps one of these days, when I'm in the mood, I'll post my thoughts on that.
 
No, WWI/II and Iraq war are not the same thing. You can´t compare WWI/II with Iraq war because they are total different.
 
Maria said:
it's necessary to have war to cut down the overpopulation ?
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It´s my suggestion.

For government, it could be yes. They use war and death penalty as an excuse to reduce the overpopulation... :dunno:
 
Reba said:
That's a disgustingly broad statement.
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No, it´s not disgusting but the fact.

I consider Bush as a war crime. He is the one who sent his soliders to attack Iraq because he thought Saddam is the responsible for cause 9/11 but he is not.

For us, we do not beleive that 9/11 is not the reason why Bush sent his soliders to attack Iraq but oil. Bush only use 9/11 as an excuse.
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Liebling:-))) said:
Draft Registration, Draft Resistance, the Military Draft, and the Medical Draft in the USA
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This prove that my uncle wasn't lying at all. Yupp the government are keeping the draft alive as their "case". I was forced to resigster for the armies, but lucky that I can't be draft because I was deaf.

Also some people here mentioned the war as control the population is very sick. Governments FORCE armies to go to the war just because they want to control the overpopulation? That would be the worst way to control the population, also I would consider that as massive murder as Webexplorer said.

I only prefer the ways to control the population while people would choose without "murder" , like the cigarettes, drugs, limiting the newborn babies, tougher job system, pricy on items, etc. Abortion and War is the murder, sorry. Also abortion and war would be my very last thing to pick for control the population.
 
jazzy said:
Yeah not all men are warriors, okay. :) Just that we have to live men's rule for thousand years. Some of them were not so pretty to live by.
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Yeah I understand what you mean, we have been ruled by men for many years. Maybe Hilary Clinton would be the first woman would ever rule us?
 
PuyoPiyo said:
This prove that my uncle wasn't lying at all. Yupp the government are keeping the draft alive as their "case". I was forced to resigster for the armies, but lucky that I can't be draft because I was deaf....
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Hello? Did you read that link? It does NOT say there is a draft.

NO ONE HAS BEEN DRAFTED BY THE USA SINCE 1973!

"In 1973, the draft ended and the U.S. converted to an All-Volunteer military."
History of the Draft

"The last man inducted entered the Army on June 30, 1973."
Selective Service System: History and Records
 
Oh, my gosh..:eek3: Reba have already had stated the facts numerous of times. She is correct. LOL.....

I don't believe I have wasted several hours reading the entire link. I have recognized the link before and it was also listed on Wikipedia footnote. LOL even though I am anti-Wikipedia. That site fails to address whether there has been a draft. The site provides only on the history and the possibility of IF the U.S. congress and U.S. president both authorize a draft. I find it amusing some of you jumped to conclusions quickly first without reading the entire link carefully. That's the act of propagandism. Do you know what that means? The aim of propagandism is to influence people's opinions or behaviors actively, rather than merely to read and communciate the facts about crap.

FACT: Currently, there is NO draft.

By the federal law, it takes both U.S. Congress and U.S. President to authorize the draft fully. It means the U.S. Congress have the power to authorize the draft first, then they have to send the authorized paper to the U.S. president for his approval. I don't mean it literally. If the president is Trump. *imitates Trump* "You're vetoed!" There ya go. No draft.

Occasionally, I do get letters from USMC, Navy, Army, and AF. By the federal law, all male US citizens are required to register with Selective Service when they turn 18. But there is CURRENTLY NO DRAFT. The Selective Service won't let me join because I am not enough to be 5 foot 10 Xena. Believe it or not, Women are excluded for many reasons. Maybe I will start chanting and waving my flaming bra. Just kidding!! If I am hearing, I would enlist Air Force. :P

PuyoPiyo,

Do not worry. If you're hearing, they will never draft you in the first place because there has been no authorized draft nor will be in the near future. You already have registered with Selective Service means you also received the rights to get any kind of federal loans like student loans, eligible for any federal programs, including welfare or assistance. That's what the federal law is for. If you want to join WILLINGLY in the armed forces, all you have to do is ENLIST willingly. That is a VOLUNTARY act.

Many people have a bad habit of not reading, researching and pondering first before they make decisions WILLINGLY whether or not they will want to enlist.
 
Barbaro said:
Oh, my gosh..:eek3: Reba have already had stated the facts numerous of times. She is correct. LOL.....

I don't believe I have wasted several hours reading the entire link. I have recognized the link before and it was also listed on Wikipedia footnote. LOL even though I am anti-Wikipedia. That site fails to address whether there has been a draft. The site provides only on the history and the possibility of IF the U.S. congress and U.S. president both authorize a draft. I find it amusing some of you jumped to conclusions quickly first without reading the entire link carefully. That's the act of propagandism. Do you know what that means? The aim of propagandism is to influence people's opinions or behaviors actively, rather than merely to read and communciate the facts about crap.

FACT: Currently, there is NO draft.

By the federal law, it takes both U.S. Congress and U.S. President to authorize the draft fully. It means the U.S. Congress have the power to authorize the draft first, then they have to send the authorized paper to the U.S. president for his approval. I don't mean it literally. If the president is Trump. *imitates Trump* "You're vetoed!" There ya go. No draft.

Occasionally, I do get letters from USMC, Navy, Army, and AF. By the federal law, all male US citizens are required to register with Selective Service when they turn 18. But there is CURRENTLY NO DRAFT. The Selective Service won't let me join because I am not enough to be 5 foot 10 Xena. Believe it or not, Women are excluded for many reasons. Maybe I will start chanting and waving my flaming bra. Just kidding!! If I am hearing, I would enlist Air Force. :P

PuyoPiyo,

Do not worry. If you're hearing, they will never draft you in the first place because there has been no authorized draft nor will be in the near future. You already have registered with Selective Service means you also received the rights to get any kind of federal loans like student loans, eligible for any federal programs, including welfare or assistance. That's what the federal law is for. If you want to join WILLINGLY in the armed forces, all you have to do is ENLIST willingly. That is a VOLUNTARY act.

Many people have a bad habit of not reading, researching and pondering first before they make decisions WILLINGLY whether or not they will want to enlist.
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Yeah, you are right all the way. Nobody was drafted, but the government do keep the draft system alive as in case when need. Being honestly, (goes point to this thread), I wish the war is not exist..
 
PuyoPiyo said:
Yeah, you are right all the way. Nobody was drafted, but the government do keep the draft system alive as in case when need. Being honestly, (goes point to this thread), I wish the war is not exist..
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I imagine if nobody have experience in war until space alien attack us. That would be truly end of the world.

how sad...
 
PowerON said:
I imagine if nobody have experience in war until space alien attack us. That would be truly end of the world.

how sad...
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No, I mean there is no war in the universe, they don't exist, even alien don't know what war is. That is what I mean, and wished for.
 
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