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I agreed.
What if there is NO WAR?
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I agreed.
No war? Then, we will have the overcrowd. There won't be peace world. We all have to defend ourself or to attack other for good. Just like World War 2. Hitler wanted to execute the Jews, mental retarded, or any disabilities including deaf. Don't ask me why he wants to execute deaf people. Hitler was insane for some reasons. Japan? Probably wants to control the world or religious. Anyway, after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, the USA joined the war to fight against Japan for good. There won't be no war. Evil are among us. Gotta to fight.
I pray for a world without fighting. One day, Insha'Allah. I -completely- disagree with limiting how many children a person can have. If they can support the child, it's their choice.
Population control? Nature has it's fury. One way or another, the world CAN be limited without resorting to barbaric measures like wars. Eventually some virus or infection or genetic disorder will surface and the "order of things" will kick in, no human involvement needed.
Population control? Nature has it's fury. One way or another, the world CAN be limited without resorting to barbaric measures like wars. Eventually some virus or infection or genetic disorder will surface and the "order of things" will kick in, no human involvement needed.
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Well, as I see, war is for power. There are fighting for many reason, religion, power, and even trying to take over countries. Even war due of opposing the leaders who controls.
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What does castration have to do with drug use? Some crimes can be related to the sex organs, yes, but as far as someone taking a drug and staying at home and watching a movie, I think castration is waaaay out in left field. Even the crack-head wandering around in the streets doesn't deserve castration. That's some 1984-Extreme-Government shit there.
As far as war, it's pretty obvious that mankind is unable to let others live how they want to, resolve conflict with talking, be tolerant of others' religions and not kill in the name of their god, and NOT bomb the crap out of innocent civilians. So, yes, war is necessary, but only when it is the LAST option.
Well I've met druggies who mistreat their kids. I see a greater wrong in an alco parent stabbing their kid with their lit cigarettes and/or regularly knocking them about then simply having that person done and the kids taken away. That would be much kinder for these poor kids.
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This is drug use AND abuse. Not just drug use. I agree, some people who do drugs do break the law and do terrible things, I just don't think that I should have my organs removed because I wanna smoke a joint.
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- no civilization
- many murderers and many murdering
- starvation
- no money
- diseases
- no beauty and art
- no games
Many murderers? Look -around- you. A study back in 06 of Iraq found that as much as 655,000 people died because of this war. Civilians. People who could have been your brother, aunt, uncle, sister, mother, grandfather, best friend, lover. If you live in a country that's not at war right now, if you've never lived through a war, take a moment to consider those you love being killed at random. Now, imagine if it was all under the facade of "liberating" you and your now burried loved ones.
War heros are nothing more than murderers who get praise instead of jail time. The only true war heros are those that advocate peace.
I wouldn't just want a war-less world, because that doesn't go hand in hand with the state of HUMANS these days. Harmony and a state that would discourage war would be a more viable dream.
As I said: one day it will happen, Insha'Allah. Eventually we must recognise that fighting has not done the world any good.
War heros are nothing more than murderers who get praise instead of jail time. The only true war heros are those that advocate peace.
I wouldn't just want a war-less world, because that doesn't go hand in hand with the state of HUMANS these days. Harmony and a state that would discourage war would be a more viable dream.
As I said: one day it will happen, Insha'Allah. Eventually we must recognise that fighting has not done the world any good.
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That's a disgustingly broad statement.
Some of the worst dictatorships and slave-holding countries are not technically "at war" and yet they are full of violence and cruelty. Sometimes it takes a war to free the oppressed and the slaves.
Great Post! I totally agree with you. I read a book about the Iraq war by a scandinavian journalist. Some of the things that happened were really really horrible. I don't make any differance between warfare and terrorism. Both are evil.
The only people I would consider war hero's are conciencious objectors.
I don't think so. I think it's a very enlightened observation myself.
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I think you're wrong. I see you're from England. My grandfather fought the Germans in WWII. Would you prefer that nobody had fought against the Nazis and instead just let them invade the UK? Have you ever considered that perhaps your life would suck if it weren't for "murderers" like my grandfather fighting Nazism? My grandfather is no murderer. He fought evil and liberated concentration camps. He's a peaceloving person, just like you are. The main difference is he recognizes that sometimes you have to fight bad guys to protect good guys. He advocated peace by the barrel of a gun, and by 1945, he got it.
I agree that the world would be better off without fighting. We just can't seem to convince the most evil among us of that. I'm into martial arts and I don't want to get in any fights. Yet if I'm attacked, I'd rather fight back than take a beating.
Edit: Oops, it's dreama who's from England. But I'm sure that Whoosh. Yes, Woosh, wherever that is (Pacific Islands, maybe?) is better off without Nazism, too.
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You know, i second that!
I sometimes tired of people who are so worrying about overpopulation.. I was like "relax, there is no reason to worry about.." I'm pretty sure there is many ways to reduce the population. Let scientists fix it!
Well, if it's the world's own problem is overpopulated - let's just put to end the lives of all people over the age of 75 and under the age of 5. That will help the problem but we also should to get ruin of homeless people and unwanted bastard children, too. Those people are hardly contributing to our society, right? Oh, you know, murder will continue to happen regardless of laws passed in attempt to prevent it. Same with the theft and terrorism, too. So, why not let's just remove those laws from the books, and let people murder and steal all they want, because it will reduce. I'm pretty sure it will help the problem anyway. < /sarcasm >
Oh, it's children's fault because they do cause the poverty. One solution for the overpopulation is cannibalism. Don't worry, any child is not blessing anymore. Mmm, oh babies! I particularly the raising of infants as food!
< /sarcastic >
Seriously, if they are worrying about it and why not they just can stand up and DO SOMETHING! Help scientists, probably? To worry is not solve anything but to do something will solve it in many ways. Yes, I'm agree with you, Puyo.
Like, to reduce the birth rate by creating a technical stuff.
Example -
periods six times per year and 50 percents chance to get pregnancy (or could be a little low than 50). How? to use speical non-toxic chemical, i donno. Just do something with a human body to improve the population. I'm not a sciectist but I expect someone create a something so new...
Remember I told you about my idea of slow aging?
PS- I'm sorry if this post is offended but I'm ranting a little here.. I'm also only talking to Puyo. ^_^
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Don't you think that someday someone will put some watches on people's wrist so that the person decides to pick some people and press a red button to shut down their system due overpopulation without having a war? Isn't that weirdo?
Nope. Aleser isn't from England. I am though. When people want to justify war they always bring up world war 2. Forgetting that World war 1 wasn't properly resolved in it's what caused world war 2. WW1 could easily have been resolved without fighting. It began over something totally trivial and stupid. The war in Afganistan and Iraq are NOT like WW2. Whilst Sadam Hussien was no angel he didn't have the power to act the way Hitler did so it's a totally differant set up and could very easily have been resolved without warfare.
Well my grandmother was interigated by the Gestapo. She's always been hooked on valium while mum was growning up. This was in France during the french occupation. While Grandmere was being interigated Mum (as a baby) was left alone at the time and she thinks it's what caused her fear of abandonment. She was always very clingy.
My english Grandfather also fought in the war. When he came back my dad hardly recognised him. There was a lot of friction.
Put it this way if some generals hadn't got so stupidly offended by what some prussian prince had to say and not started WW1 then my french grandma wouldn't have been interigated by the Gestapo, my mum wouldn't have been left on her own, and my English Granddad would not have had to risk his neck then come back to an unwelcoming household. We would all have been much better off.
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My bad. Sorry about that. See the very end of my last post.
I'm wasn't talking about WWI, Iraq, or Afghanistan. I didn't bring up WWII to justify any war in particular other than WWII. I brought it up to respond to Aleser's universal statement about war heroes being murderers who should go to jail. The problem with such broad, unqualified statements is it takes just one real-life example contradicting that statement to discredit it.
I'm sorry to hear about all the hardships your family went through. The first half of the 19th century was no fun for Europe. I'm not trying to justify the silly things that caused WWI or led to Hitler's rise in Germany. However, by 1938, they had all happened and Europe had an evil, brutal, ambitious dictator to deal with. The only thing that mattered at that point was what to do about it. Chamberlain proved that peaceful negotiations wouldn't work with Hitler. The only two options left were to fight back against Hitler or surrender and let him take over Europe. Both of those options would result in much death and suffering. There simply was no way to avoid death and suffering. I was basically asking Aleser which option she would choose.
With you all the way!
There is MANY different ways to control the population, like reduce the criminals of drugs, reduce prices and legal age for cigarettes, limiting the numbers of children in the families, etc... War only kill the armies, not the civilians.
Btw, your post seems are not offensive to me
Your post is very great.If people think the war is the control of population, then I want to ask.
China, the present first world populated country in the world, have been working so hard to keep its overpopulation in control without the war, and some science already preview that China's population won't be much of different than present to 2050 while India's population are out of control dramatically goes to the first world populated country in 2050 surpassing China. How did China do that?
Russia are having the population decline problem today, they already lost 2 millions of people just in past 4 years, and the science already preview that Russia's population will go down from 140 million to 100 million in 2050. Why did Russia have so much of population decline problem?
Japan, the today 9th world populated country, has 127 million of people living there right now, and their population growth rate are at 0.00 and won't be any different at 2050. How did Japan's population stay the same from present to 2050?
If you answer those, you will find alot of ways to control the population more than just the war.
China, the present first world populated country in the world, have been working so hard to keep its overpopulation in control without the war, and some science already preview that China's population won't be much of different than present to 2050 while India's population are out of control dramatically goes to the first world populated country in 2050 surpassing China. How did China do that?
Russia are having the population decline problem today, they already lost 2 millions of people just in past 4 years, and the science already preview that Russia's population will go down from 140 million to 100 million in 2050. Why did Russia have so much of population decline problem?
Japan, the today 9th world populated country, has 127 million of people living there right now, and their population growth rate are at 0.00 and won't be any different at 2050. How did Japan's population stay the same from present to 2050?
If you answer those, you will find alot of ways to control the population more than just the war.