Were you lied by schools and/or parents that you were "hearing?"

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sunny_signs said:
I got that from teachers all the time. They know I can talk, nothing wrong with vocal cords, and they spend much time trying to convince me to talk. They think I'm embarrassed about sounding funny. Why? I can't hear it sounds funny. They don't understand I don't talk with voice because I talk with hands. Is redundant. One teacher, in grade 4, tell me I cannot answer class questions in sign, I must talk or I get marked wrong. My dad was very angry at that. Moved me to a different teacher.
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Good for Dad. :applause:
 
jillio said:
Hi, Terri. I am a clinician that specializes in the Deaf. This is something that many of my adolescent clients have stated: that they were led to believe that they functioned just the same as a hearing student with their device and minimum accommodation. Or to be more specific, that they should be able to function as such. They didn't feel they truly could, which created, as I'm sure you know, all kinds of issues for them. I would be very interested in what your data shows.
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Ha! You do it again! I read what you write and understand better the question asked by the original poster. :ty:

My answer is yes. I was expected to function.
 
sunny_signs said:
I got that from teachers all the time. They know I can talk, nothing wrong with vocal cords, and they spend much time trying to convince me to talk. They think I'm embarrassed about sounding funny. Why? I can't hear it sounds funny. They don't understand I don't talk with voice because I talk with hands. Is redundant. One teacher, in grade 4, tell me I cannot answer class questions in sign, I must talk or I get marked wrong. My dad was very angry at that. Moved me to a different teacher.
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Yes. Experiences like this is exactly what the OP is referring to. The message being received is "Normal people talk with their voice, not their hands."
 
rebeccalj said:
Ha! You do it again! I read what you write and understand better the question asked by the original poster. :ty:

My answer is yes. I was expected to function.
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NP. Glad to be of service.:wave:
 
twaddellmotter said:
I am looking for what exactly Jiilio mentioned. Those who tested as Deaf/Hard of Hearing as a child or birth and whose parents or/and schools persisted that you need to be part of the "hearing world" therefore, must use speech or be "hearing/normal" as much as possible. I have seen numerous mainstream students' identities/languages significantly confused/delayed by the time they're in middle school. I just need to start collecting data/numbers who have experienced this. Please just respond yes, your age (if comfortable), and state you live in.


-Terri
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I did not feel confused being in mainstream class, I hated staying back in school and being made to feel I was stupid because I could not hear. My parents where too clueless to even think of what happening to me in school. I was put in special ed class as I did not pass fifth grade. I was more concerned about not getting hit at home than anything growing up. I did not have time to be confused , I just trying to hold myself together.
 
jillio said:
Yes. Experiences like this is exactly what the OP is referring to. The message being received is "Normal people talk with their voice, not their hands."
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Yes, I got that message often. I am not people, i am Sunny. Normal Sunny talks with her hands. The end. :)
 
GrendelQ said:
The OP asked specifically if people were victims of having been misled to being "normal/regular," "hearing," or "hearing-like" . I can accurately report that my daughter is a victim of being led to believe she is "normal / regular".
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Evidently, you did not read the question correctly. She did not ask how many hearing parents can report. She asked, "How many of you" meaning how many D/deaf individuals. She is requesting information first hand, not second hand and filtered through a hearing perspective.
 
GrendelQ said:
In the title (Were you lied by schools and/or parents that you were "hearing?") and her first post:
"... I am a Deaf School Psychologist at Indiana Deaf School and part of my research is to determine how many of you were a "victim" of being mislead to being a "normal/regular," "hearing," or "hearing-like?" while growing up. "
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Still don't see anything about "lying parents." I do, however, clearly see that the question is being addressed to the D/deaf members who have experienced being a deaf child in an academic atmosphere; NOT hearing parents.:cool2:
 
twaddellmotter said:
I am looking for what exactly Jiilio mentioned. Those who tested as Deaf/Hard of Hearing as a child or birth and whose parents or/and schools persisted that you need to be part of the "hearing world" therefore, must use speech or be "hearing/normal" as much as possible. I have seen numerous mainstream students' identities/languages significantly confused/delayed by the time they're in middle school. I just need to start collecting data/numbers who have experienced this. Please just respond yes, your age (if comfortable), and state you live in.


-Terri
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How long do you have? All of the above and then some.

Is it open to Canadiens? There's Deaf up here too. :laugh2:

Yes, 20 (uhm, okay with 26 years experience :giggle:) and I currently reside in Vancouver, BC, Canada. I was raised in Victoria, BC.

If you do not get my humour I'm 46.
 
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jillio said:
GrendelQ said:
In the title (Were you lied by schools and/or parents that you were "hearing?") and her first post:
"... I am a Deaf School Psychologist at Indiana Deaf School and part of my research is to determine how many of you were a "victim" of being mislead to being a "normal/regular," "hearing," or "hearing-like?" while growing up. "
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Still don't see anything about "lying parents." I do, however, clearly see that the question is being addressed to the D/deaf members who have experienced being a deaf child in an academic atmosphere; NOT hearing parents.:cool2:
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then stop posting. You are a hearing parent!
 
Neither deaf nor a parent of deaf

But

The fact the attitude the OP is talking about is still in full force is an incident I have related before.

We were signing in a large store when the parents of a two year old girl came up and asked us to "stop doing that" because their daughter was deaf and they did not want her "contaminated" by being exposed to signed language.

Why?

Because they wanted her to grow up to be a "normal" child with a normal childhood.

This was in Northern California a short while before I joined AllDeaf.
 
Jiro said:
has she ever answered OP's question for her deaf child?
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No she hasn't! And I think I may need new dental crowns from my teeth grinding in irritation at all the provoking posts!
 
Bottesini said:
No she hasn't! And I think I may need new dental crowns from my teeth grinding in irritation at all the provoking posts!
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we need a new smilies - the one that burst out in laughter with eyes popping out cuz it was just too much
 
jillio said:
It is really telling that the OP is asking for responses from the D/deaf who have experienced the educational environment as a deaf child yet a couple of hearing parents have to jump in and start defending their decisions and their beliefs regarding their children. Can't even let the D/deaf respond and accept that their responses are valid and worthwhile in determining policy for the deaf.

Stop it you two. This is not a thread for you to justify your decisions for your deaf children, who are too young, but the way, to even respond to this request. This is a thread for the deaf to state what their perceptions were as deaf children. Let the deaf answer and save your defensiveness for another thread.
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Present company excluded? but this is *SO* typical. The hearing trying to speak for the Deaf. It's like a compulsion for them. :roll: Sad thing is they'll never get it either.
 
Dallas wonders if it's ok he can answer this too?

He is 21, Canada. He says his answer similar like mine only his family all Deaf. He never had his family try force him to talk with voice, but many teachers did. He chooses to talk with voice with hearies sometimes, and his teachers every year try put him in speech therapy to make his voice sound like hearie.
 
sunny_signs said:
Dallas wonders if it's ok he can answer this too?

He is 21, Canada. He says his answer similar like mine only his family all Deaf. He never had his family try force him to talk with voice, but many teachers did. He chooses to talk with voice with hearies sometimes, and his teachers every year try put him in speech therapy to make his voice sound like hearie.
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Was he in the Deaf school when he was forced to talk to make the sound like a hearie? :hmm:
 
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