Were you lied by schools and/or parents that you were "hearing?"

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faire_jour said:
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i thought jillio didn't have a phd....perhaps she can clarify.
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already did while ago. she posted an announcement and we congratulated her. ujelly?
 
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Jiro said:
faire_jour said:
i thought jillio didn't have a phd....perhaps she can clarify.
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already did while ago. she posted an announcement and we congratulated her. ujelly?
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i thought it was a psyd. That is different. Maybe i am wrong!

sorry op, way off topic. Feel free to ask the mods to delete this!
 
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faire_jour said:
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i thought it was a psyd. That is different. Maybe i am wrong!
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why are you still here? You promised you'll leave if she leaves. She hasn't posted since then.

tsk tsk... you're a liar and a hypocrite :nono:
 
Jiro said:
you're answering this question for your daughter. perhaps you should let her answer this question for herself. I find it interesting that you and Grendel jumped in. So defensive....
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Exactly. It appears, for all purposes, that a couple of hearing parents don't want the D/deaf to answer the question posed by the OP because the answers she will receive are in direct opposition to what they are trying to present as truth based on a few short years experience raising a deaf child. I believe that they are attempting to create dissention and take the thread off topic with the express hope that the thread will get closed and the data will not be collected. Just as they have managed to have more than one thread closed in the past week by trying to make every thread about hearing parents and what they need.
It is more and more obvious that their concern is not with what the D/deaf need or want, but only about what they want for the D/deaf. Audism in all it's glory.
 
I did not understand about lying from my mother and/or both of my elementary and high school when I could have protest saying that I can not hear. The schools thought I could hear with the hearing aid (only very severe with one left ear while my right ear is totally deaf - no sounds at all). I could not understand why I was forced to speak and understood what the hearing people say including in high school when I had to take the regular classes with no accommodation. I was not taught to sign ASL and never had ASL interpreter. I was very upset that I could not go to another school like the Minnesota School for the Deaf (name change later) to be able to learn to sign and use the sign language to communicate with the teacher and students for study other courses. I think I was lied to by my mother and the schools that I could not go to another deaf school where I can be comfortable to sign instead of oral-only program. I really hate oral-only program. I was surprised that I managed to graduated from high school where my grades were low. I had wanted the grades to be A+ to C+ but my grades was lower than that including failing some of the courses when I could not understand what is being said. I used the books to help me get through but still they were not enough for me to understand what is being taught in a hearing classrooms. I wish they should have listen to my plea that I was not happy in the hearing environment in a mainstream schools. :ugh:
 
faire_jour said:
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i thought jillio didn't have a phd....perhaps she can clarify.
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I have a doctorate in clinical psychology. A PsyD and a Ph.D in Psychology are exactly the same degree: doctoral degrees in the field of psychology. License is the same, governing organiztions the same, priviledges the same. Maybe you need to inform yourself before running your fingers across the keyboard. But, hey, why try something new?
 
faire_jour said:
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i thought it was a psyd. That is different. Maybe i am wrong!

sorry op, way off topic. Feel free to ask the mods to delete this!
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Yep, you are wrong, as usual.
 
Jiro said:
why are you still here? You promised you'll leave if she leaves. She hasn't posted since then.

tsk tsk... you're a liar and a hypocrite :nono:
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I propose we simply ignore all posts coming from hearing parents of young children and allow the D/deaf to address the quesion posed to them. Let's not enable these hearing parents of young deaf children to take yet another thread off topic and make it all about them. Pay them no mind, don't give them the attention they crave, and don't enable them.
 
jillio said:
Exactly. It appears, for all purposes, that a couple of hearing parents don't want the D/deaf to answer the question posed by the OP because the answers she will receive are in direct opposition to what they are trying to present as truth based on a few short years experience raising a deaf child. I believe that they are attempting to create dissention and take the thread off topic with the express hope that the thread will get closed and the data will not be collected. Just as they have managed to have more than one thread closed in the past week by trying to make every thread about hearing parents and what they need.
It is more and more obvious that their concern is not with what the D/deaf need or want, but only about what they want for the D/deaf. Audism in all it's glory.
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if that happens, I would like to get in touch with the op. I am sorry this is happening and that this thread could close. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I wish our op well.
 
Anyway, I wonder what members of AD would have to say about their experinces.
 
Oh, I didn't completely answer it. I'm 20 in Canada. I was always raised that I was just like everyone else, only I happened to not be able to hear. I remember getting in trouble a few times when I tried to pull the " but I shouldn't have to clean my room/do homework/walk the dog etc, I'm deaf!" crap, and my mom would tell me that this did not mean I was special or above the rules, that I was just the same as everyone else. Oral communication was never forced on me. I did speech therapy for a year or two, but I told my parents I didn't like it and they didn't make me continue. I hope I answered your question well.

Edit to add about my schools - early school didn't quite know what to do with me. There were two Deafies (me and Dallas) and nobody to interpret classes for us. My mom used to, for a while, but the school told her we had to have a union interpreter, even though there wasn't one. We moved to a new school which was not deaf school but had a bunch of Deafies and interpreters. There we were less of sore thumbs sticking out.
 
deafskeptic said:
Anyway, I wonder what members of AD would have to say about their experinces.
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Yes, I am anxious to see their responses. But from the stories that have been related over time from AD members, I think most will agree that they were made to feel that the only way to be normal was to speak and be mainstreamed.
 
twaddellmotter said:
Reason I am asking this particular question is I need to gather statistics/percentage of how many of you experienced this as part of my data collection.

I am a Deaf School Psychologist at Indiana Deaf School and part of my research is to determine how many of you were a "victim" of being mislead to being a "normal/regular," "hearing," or "hearing-like?" while growing up. Just reply YES, your age (if comfortable with it), and which state you are in. I am going to get a good percentage by the end of this week (August 19th).



Terri
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I wasn't misled. I was expected to be, and act, like a hearie.
 
jillio said:
Yes, I am anxious to see their responses. But from the stories that have been related over time from AD members, I think most will agree that they were made to feel that the only way to be normal was to speak and be mainstreamed.
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I got that from teachers all the time. They know I can talk, nothing wrong with vocal cords, and they spend much time trying to convince me to talk. They think I'm embarrassed about sounding funny. Why? I can't hear it sounds funny. They don't understand I don't talk with voice because I talk with hands. Is redundant. One teacher, in grade 4, tell me I cannot answer class questions in sign, I must talk or I get marked wrong. My dad was very angry at that. Moved me to a different teacher.
 
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