Trayvon Case Investigation

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Foxrac said:
Please could you present a source to support your claim? I found your claim is very hard to believe because I don't find anything from article, especially CNN and The Huffington Post.
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Hold on. I will have to go back to some of the reports before the arrest.
 
Waterboy said:
Nope. That is evidence that comes out at trial, not in the affidavit. Nope. They aren't going to claim that Zimmerman was acting as a racist. That is up to the Feds and they are still investigating the racism part. They may claim he was profiling. Probably will since that was in the affidavit. But even you said that Zimmerman was right to be suspicious of Trayvon because there had been break ins by young Black men. So assuming that a young Black man walking down the sidewalk was "suspicious" based on that is profiling. Trayvon was not seen committing any crime. Zimmerman was suspicious of him based on past happenings that had nothing to do with Trayvon. That is profiling.
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You might be confusing me with someone else. I never said Zimmerman was suspicious of Trayvon because of his skin color.

You did.

I do not know why Zimmerman became suspicious of Trayvon other than what was stated on the 911 call - "He looks like he is up to no good. He looks like he is on druigs or something"

I also did not know - until the Reuters investigation - that there had been an arrest made in Zimmerman's neighborhood and that the suspect had been an African American 18 year old.
 
Waterboy said:
There hasn't been any medical evidence presented. And there hasn't been any coroborating evidence presented that Trayvon attacked Martin. All that has been presented so far is Zimmerman's claim. The other evidence will come out at trial, along with evidence gathered by the special prosecutor's team of investigators.
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No evidence gets presented until there's a jury to which to make the presentation. There's no obligation to present evidence to the general public.
 
Steinhauer said:
It was already presented in court and Wolfinger let him go.
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I means - will you rather to wait until trial in the court? George Zimmerman doesn't have back to court for trial until late May.

I have to stay out about situation with George Zimmerman and I don't want see Reba to slap me with "You shouldn't serve as jury" post.
 
Here you go, Foxrac:

Despite public claims that there wasn’t enough probable cause to make a criminal case in the Trayvon Martin killing, early in the investigation the Sanford Police Department requested an arrest warrant from the Seminole County State Attorney’s office, the special prosecutor in the case told The Miami Herald on Tuesday.

A Sanford Police incident report shows the case was categorized as “homicide/negligent manslaughter.”

Read more here: Sanford cops wanted to charge Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin case - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com
 
Reba said:
No evidence gets presented until there's a jury to which to make the presentation. There's no obligation to present evidence to the general public.
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Evidence from the prosecution gets presented to the defense during the discovery process.
 
Waterboy said:
Here you go, Foxrac:

Despite public claims that there wasn’t enough probable cause to make a criminal case in the Trayvon Martin killing, early in the investigation the Sanford Police Department requested an arrest warrant from the Seminole County State Attorney’s office, the special prosecutor in the case told The Miami Herald on Tuesday.

A Sanford Police incident report shows the case was categorized as “homicide/negligent manslaughter.”

Read more here: Sanford cops wanted to charge Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin case - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com
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Yes, that was the police report - then it went before Wolfinger and he let Zimmerman go.

That was when the public unrest began and stores were looted.

Remember?
 
Reba said:
That's not a second degree murder charge.
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Who said they wanted to charge with with 2nd degree murder? That was the special prosecutor's decision after reviewing the evidence. I said the cops didn't believe self defense and wanted to charge him.

The Seminole county prosecutor would not even charge him with the lesser charge even though the cops wanted an arrest warrant and saw evidence of homicide.
 
Waterboy said:
Here you go, Foxrac:

Despite public claims that there wasn’t enough probable cause to make a criminal case in the Trayvon Martin killing, early in the investigation the Sanford Police Department requested an arrest warrant from the Seminole County State Attorney’s office, the special prosecutor in the case told The Miami Herald on Tuesday.

A Sanford Police incident report shows the case was categorized as “homicide/negligent manslaughter.”

Read more here: Sanford cops wanted to charge Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin case - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com
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Thanks for source.

That's extremely surprised me that George Zimmerman got charged as second degree murder rather than manslaughter, however honest with you, based on current article, he will acquittal from second degree murder, unless Corey has to present a strong evidence.

I'm sure that Corey is thug.
 
Waterboy said:
That is an assumption by you. But nice that you can be so sure without knowing all the evidence. I think they call that bias.
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So, GZ is automatically guilty and that he must prove his innocence?
 
Steinhauer said:
Yes, that was the police report - then it went before Wolfinger and he let Zimmerman go.

That was when the public unrest began and stores were looted.

Remember?
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Public unrest? :laugh2:

And when a special prosecutor was assigned to review the evidence, she brought him back in and had him arrested. Looks like the cops were right in not believing the self defense story.
 
Waterboy said:
That is an assumption by you. But nice that you can be so sure without knowing all the evidence. I think they call that bias.
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And all through AD you have declared Zimmerman guilty. That is am assumption by you. But nice that you can be so sure without all the evidence. I think they call that bias.
 
kokonut said:
So, GZ is automatically guilty and that he must prove his innocence?
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Nope. Did not say that. Said there was enough evidence, according to the police that investigated that night, and the special prosecutor to charge him. Said that the police did not believe his self defense story. He is going to have to prove he acted in self defense. He has already confessed to shooting the kid. We know he is guilty of killing Trayvon. He confessed. All we are waiting to see is if his self defense story holds up. A lot of people that are involved in the case didn't believe it that night, and don't believe it now.
 
rolling7 said:
And all through AD you have declared Zimmerman guilty. That is am assumption by you. But nice that you can be so sure without all the evidence. I think they call that bias.
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With extreme prejudice.
 
Waterboy said:
Who said they wanted to charge with with 2nd degree murder? That was the special prosecutor's decision after reviewing the evidence. I said the cops didn't believe self defense and wanted to charge him.

The Seminole county prosecutor would not even charge him with the lesser charge even though the cops wanted an arrest warrant and saw evidence of homicide.
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Homicide, in law, simply means one person taking the life of another. It's not automatically a crime. Just because a detective put down negligent manslaughter doesn't necessarily preclude self defense.
 
rolling7 said:
And all through AD you have declared Zimmerman guilty. That is am assumption by you. But nice that you can be so sure without all the evidence. I think they call that bias.
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He has confessed to being guilty of shooting and killing the kid. All we need to know now is if his self defense story will hold up based on the evidence. The cops didn't buy it the night of the shooting, and the special prosecutor, after reviewing the evidence, didn't buy it. We'll have to wait and see if self defense holds up or not in court. But as far as him being guilty of shooting and killing an unarmed teen ager...well, Zimmerman himself has confessed to being guilty of that.
 
Reba said:
Homicide, in law, simply means one person taking the life of another. It's not automatically a crime. Just because a detective put down negligent manslaughter doesn't necessarily preclude self defense.
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They sought an arrest warrant. They would not have sought an arrest warrant if they did not think he had committed a crime.
 
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