Trayvon Case Investigation

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Waterboy said:
Nope. His lawyer already said he did not know about the money until Wednesday, when he was shutting down the website. That is when Zimmerman askwhat do I do about my paypal account and the money I have in it? And the lawyer already made that public even before the hearing this morning, when he told the judge the same thing.
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Then Zimmerman wasn't lying, was he? He volunteered that information to his lawyer.
 
Reba said:
You call that recorded court testimony?

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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There is recorded court testimony about the differences in what he said about Trayvon's age, and also a recorded 911 call to prove that he said Martin was in his "late teens." Don't you just hate that?

Also recorded court testimony of his lawyer saying that Zimmerman hid the fact that he had $204,000 from his website, and swore that he was indigent.
 
Reba said:
Then Zimmerman wasn't lying, was he? He volunteered that information to his lawyer.
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Not at the time he swore he was indigent, and not at the bond hearing. Only after he was trapped into admitting it when his lawyer was closing the website down. Not exactly honest on his part.

If this wasn't a big deal, his lawyer would not have gone into court and told the judge he needed to know about all this.
 
Waterboy said:
So make one. Ever hear of closed captioning on TV?
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Yes. That's what I was looking for and couldn't find a captioned version of the court case. Which source did you watch that was captioned? Please share.

Nope, not speculation at all. But that's okay. Keep defending Zimmeran.:laugh2:
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Apparently you haven't followed my threads so I'll brief you.

I'm not defending either side. I'm defending the legal process. There's no need to jump to conclusions on either side.

I don't let lies or creative statements pass for facts either.
 
Reba said:
I tried to find one, and there isn't one yet. I can't find a captioned video either. Since Waterboy is deaf, you must have a transcript of captioned video link. If not, then whatever you post about the hearing is speculation.
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"waterboy" is DEAF????.....whoopie-do!...Perhaps "he" will come back and say..."that's hearsay!"....
 
Reba said:
Yes. That's what I was looking for and couldn't find a captioned version of the court case. Which source did you watch that was captioned? Please share.


Apparently you haven't followed my threads so I'll brief you.

I'm not defending either side. I'm defending the legal process. There's no need to jump to conclusions on either side.

I don't let lies or creative statements pass for facts either.
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You're hearing, right? So listen to the video and type out a transcript if you want one. What source I watched it on doesn't matter. It's over now.

Yeah, the legal process is that a person can't claim to be indigent when they have 204,000 in a bank account.
 
rockin'robin said:
"waterboy" is DEAF????.....whoopie-do!...Perhaps "he" will come back and say..."that's hearsay!"....
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Deaf with magic eyes that can see captions and transcripts that don't exist.
 
Waterboy said:
Nope. His lawyer already said he did not know about the money until Wednesday, when he was shutting down the website. That is when Zimmerman askwhat do I do about my paypal account and the money I have in it? And the lawyer already made that public even before the hearing this morning, when he told the judge the same thing.
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His lawyer was brought into the case late. Did his previous lawyers know about the site? I'm quite sure the justice department knew.
 
Waterboy said:
You're hearing, right? So listen to the video and type out a transcript if you want one. What source I watched it on doesn't matter. It's over now.
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Yes, it does matter. You had no credibility before, and now you're deep in the hole.

Yeah, the legal process is that a person can't claim to be indigent when they have 204,000 in a bank account.
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Like I said, you have no credibility with me.
 
Yes, an unknown with no credibility by making unsubstantiated claims and that we should take them at face value? Why?
 
Waterboy said:
You just can't stick to the topic, can you? :roll:
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Jillio, you could clear this all up with coming clean. Then, we can all go back to focusing on the topics.

The false identity of Waterboy is the elephant in the room that everyone is afraid to confront. Therefor, it's a distraction to every thread that you visit.

If Alex has forgiven you and removed your ban, that's fine with me. The more the merrier. It's the deceit that's disturbing.
 
George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer accused of wrongly killing Trayvon Martin, will not immediately have to turn over donations to his website, a Florida judge said Friday.

Zimmerman collected about $204,000 in donations through the website, but did not disclose the contributions during his bond hearing last week, according to Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara.
Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda asked Judge Kenneth Lester Jr. to increase Zimmerman's $150,000 bond. But the judge said he would delay ruling on the request, in part because he does not know if he has the authority to do so.

Lester said he is also concerned about revealing the names of donors.

"I'm not going to make a snap decision," Lester said.

Zimmerman's family testified last week at his bond hearing that they did not have the kind of resources that would have been necessary to meet the prosecution's suggested $1 million bond.

Zimmerman, 28, was released Monday on $150,000 bail, 10% of which his family put up to secure his release while he awaits trial on a second-degree murder charge in Martin's February 26 death.

Although Zimmerman spent some of the contributions on living expenses, about $150,000 remains, O'Mara said Friday. O'Mara said he has put the money into a trust he controls until a final decision is made about its use.
O'Mara said he learned about the money on Wednesday and he and Zimmerman were trying to shut down Zimmerman's website, Facebook page and Twitter account to avoid concerns about possible impersonators and other problems.






"He asked me what to do with his PayPal accounts, and I asked him what he was talking about," O'Mara told CNN's Anderson Cooper on Thursday. "He said those were the accounts that had the money from the website he had. And there was about ... $204,000 that had come in to date."
O'Mara had said earlier this month that he believed Zimmerman had no money.
Asked whether knowledge of the money might have made a difference to Lester, who presided at Zimmerman's bond hearing, O'Mara said, "It might have."

Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump said Zimmerman's failure to reveal that he had the money shows that he is being dishonest.

"If his testimony at the bond hearing is any indication of what is to come, then the lying has already begun," Crump said.

Zimmerman was arrested April 11 after a lengthy delay punctuated by protests and rallies nationwide calling for charges against him.

Critics accuse Zimmerman of racially profiling and unjustly killing Martin, a 17-year-old African-American. Zimmerman told police he shot Martin in self-defense, according to police reports.

Although details of the shooting remain murky, it is known that Martin ventured out from the Sanford home of his father's fiancee and went to a nearby convenience store, where he bought a bag of candy and an iced tea. On his way back, he had a confrontation with Zimmerman, who shot him.

Zimmerman had called 911 to complain about a suspicious person in the neighborhood, according to authorities.

In the call, Zimmerman said he was following Martin after the teen started to run, prompting the dispatcher to tell him, "We don't need you to do that." Zimmerman pursued Martin anyway but then said he lost sight of him.

According to an Orlando Sentinel story later confirmed by Sanford police, Zimmerman told authorities that after he briefly lost track of Martin, the teen approached him. After the two exchanged words, Zimmerman said, he reached for his cell phone, and then Martin punched him in the nose. Zimmerman said Martin pinned him to the ground and began slamming his head onto the sidewalk, leading to the shooting.

Police have said Zimmerman was not immediately charged because there was no evidence to disprove his account that he'd acted in self-defense. A police report indicated he was bleeding from the nose and the back of his head.

Regardless of what happens to the contributions generated by ZImmerman's website, O'Mara said he intends to open a legal defense fund for his client.

"I've had dozens, hundreds actually, of people wanting to donate," he said.

O'Mara, who said he charges $400 per hour for family law cases, estimated Zimmerman's defense costs could reach $1 million.

"You can really go through a lot of money on a case like this, with the intensity of it," he said.

Judge delays decision on Zimmerman contributions - CNN.com
 
Reba said:
Jillio, you could clear this all up with coming clean. Then, we can all go back to focusing on the topics.

The false identity of Waterboy is the elephant in the room that everyone is afraid to confront. Therefor, it's a distraction to every thread that you visit.

If Alex has forgiven you and removed your ban, that's fine with me. The more the merrier. It's the deceit that's disturbing.
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What about Zimmerman? Why can't you people stick to the topic?
 
See? O'Mara never said that Zimmerman lied or misled.
 
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