Trayvon Case Investigation

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Foxrac said:
I have other reasons to against George Zimmerman.
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I guess that it's good that you don't serve on a jury.
 
Reba said:
I guess that it's good that you don't serve on a jury.
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Come on, I don't live in Florida so who cares? What is wrong with you? I have enough articles to say about George Zimmerman and it is already truth. I hope you don't serve as jury too.

I had been summoned for jury at once but waived because they cannot setup the interpreter to meet my accommodation.
 
Reba said:
I guess that it's good that you don't serve on a jury.
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Just hope those picked for jury duty understand what they are there for....to seek the truth...rather than let emotion cloud their judgements.
 
TXgolfer said:
Those "reasons" are more important than truth?
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What fuck are you talking about? The truth is already here and I BELIEVE that George Zimmerman is GUILTY for second degree murder, or at very least - manslaughter, even based on evidence and Corey probably have strong evidence for second degree murder, that's fine with me. I know about truth between of them.

Look for more quibbling? come on and you have to let go because you don't like my belief and my political attitude. Time for respect me instead put your goddamn words in my mouth, even Jiro doesn't put in my mouth because I chose a right direction.
 
kokonut said:
Just hope those picked for jury duty understand what they are there for....to seek the truth...rather than let emotion cloud their judgements.
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All jurors have own bias that we never know and none of jurors are perfect - look at OJ Simpson's case and Casey Anthony's case.
 
Foxrac said:
What **** are you talking about? .
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No need for the obscenities. I wasn't attempting to put words in your mouth, I was trying to get a clear picture of what you were saying in posts 337 and 341.
 
Foxrac said:
Come on, I don't live in Florida so who cares? What is wrong with you? I have enough articles to say about George Zimmerman and it is already truth. I hope you don't serve as jury too.

I had been summoned for jury at once but waived because they cannot setup the interpreter to meet my accommodation.
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Thank God!
 
Reba said:
That's not a defense strategy.

We'll have to wait and see what develops.
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I'm not talking about Zimmerman's lawyer's defense strategy. I'm talking about Zimmerman's side.

"My defense is that I was walking back to my car and Trayvon attacked me."

Perhaps I'm using a wrong term or something.
 
Reba said:
:confused: No one said anything about using an alibi defense for the Zimmerman case.
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you just explained it right in Post #185. They weren't referring to Zimmerman case. It was a general example.
 
Reba said:
Also from your link:

"a person of ordinary judgment would know is reasonably certain to kill or do serious bodily injury to another, and is done from ill will, hatred, spite, or an evil intent, and is of such a nature that the act itself indicates an indifference to human life."

Self defense doesn't fit that description.
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Reba said:
You haven't yet heard any of the evidence, so that is a very premature prediction.
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sounds like you're already made a premature prediction as well.
 
Reba said:
How can you make such a judgment without hearing all the facts? I hope that you never serve on a jury!
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why? I would acquit Zimmerman if the evidence proved that Trayvon was an aggressor. I have no problem acquitting him.

But if there is no solid evidence that justified shooting and both sides have only presented their "reasonable doubt" evidence, I would convict Zimmerman because this entire whole thing was COMPLETELY PREVENTABLE if Zimmerman didn't leave his vehicle. He had a mindset of cop-wannabe because he was packing a heat. That deeply concerns me.
 
Foxrac - sssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...... it's best if you recuse yourself and take a breather :)
 
Jiro said:
why? I would acquit Zimmerman if the evidence proved that Trayvon was an aggressor. I have no problem acquitting him.

But if there is no solid evidence that justified shooting and both sides have only presented their "reasonable doubt" evidence, I would convict Zimmerman because this entire whole thing was COMPLETELY PREVENTABLE if Zimmerman didn't leave his vehicle. He had a mindset of cop-wannabe because he was packing a heat. That deeply concerns me.
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It doesn't matter what you think because you didn't see what happened. So be patient and wait for some witnesses' testimonies during trial since one or two of them actually saw what was going on when he or they went outside to check it out. He or they might tell the court that TM was the aggressor (attacker) and GZ was screaming for help. If that's the truth, you have to acquit him.

Do you know that if GZ didn't carry his gun and TM beat him up to death, TM would go to jail for murder? It doesn't matter if TM complained that GZ followed him. Think twice before talk.
 
CrazyPaul said:
It doesn't matter what you think because you didn't see what happened. So be patient and wait for some witnesses' testimonies during trial since one or two of them actually saw what was going on when he or they went outside to check it out. He or they might tell the court that TM was the aggressor (attacker) and GZ was screaming for help. If that's the truth, you have to acquit him.

Do you know that if GZ didn't carry his gun and TM beat him up to death, TM would go to jail for murder? It doesn't matter if TM complained that GZ followed him. Think twice before talk.
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comical. absolutely comical. follow your own advice before you post.

first of all - that's not what happened in here. why don't we stick with what did happen? Zimmerman killed Trayvon, not other way around.
 
Jiro said:
comical. absolutely comical. follow your own advice before you post.

first of all - that's not what happened in here. why don't we stick with what did happen? Zimmerman killed Trayvon, not other way around.
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Yes, GZ killed TM in self-defense. If he didn't carry a gun that night, how would he defend himself? The point is that you said that he shouldn't carry his gun that night. Police didn't say that he shouldn't carry it that night.
 
CrazyPaul said:
Yes, GZ killed TM in self-defense.
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oh my! jumping to conclusion already? didn't you just tell me to be patient and wait for facts to see who was an aggressor?

CrazyPaul said:
If he didn't carry a gun that night, how would he defend himself?
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very simple - don't get out of your car to confront or pursue him. leave it to cops to deal with it. why is this simple concept extremely difficult for you to grasp?

you seem to think any armed citizen is allowed to confront any suspicious person and shoot'em if thing got bad.

CrazyPaul said:
The point is that you said that he shouldn't carry his gun that night. Police didn't say that he shouldn't carry it that night.
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I've never said that. Cops never said that either.

What I said is that an armed citizen should never ever put himself in a potentially dangerous situation where somebody could get hurt or killed. Do you agree or not?
 
Foxrac said:
... I hope you don't serve as jury too....
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I have served on juries. Anyone with their mind made up before the trial starts is not allowed to serve. Jury members promise to make their decisions based on the evidence that is presented during the trial. Personal "reasons" are not allowed.
 
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