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Yes, she will argue about anything. It is annoying.
I believe it FJ is crazy on argue to serious!! I know her bio strong fighter 0_o
Yes, she will argue about anything. It is annoying.
That's an understatement :P
you means on confused that is correct?
3000k, easier to say 3m?Here's an example of what I mean by understatment:
suppose big earthquake happens. 3000k people die in it. Damage cost 1 trillion dollars.
Then John says that earthquake did some damage. What he said is an understatement. Most people think some damage means only few people died and damage wasn't too bad.
Earthquake did very bad damage because 3000k people died and there was a lot of damage. So to say earthquake only did some damage is understatement.
When I said it's an understatement, I was being sarcastic about FJ arguing all the time. I get annoyed by FJ because she will argue about anything. She argues so much that
Here's an example of what I mean by understatment:
suppose big earthquake happens. 3000k people die in it. Damage cost 1 trillion dollars.
Then John says that earthquake did some damage. What he said is an understatement. Most people think some damage means only few people died and damage wasn't too bad.
Earthquake did very bad damage because 3000k people died and there was a lot of damage. So to say earthquake only did some damage is understatement.
When I said it's an understatement, I was being sarcastic about FJ arguing all the time. I get annoyed by FJ because she will argue about anything. She argues so much that
3000k, easier to say 3m?
3000k is still a lot of people. I thought 3000k would be a more realistic number than 3 million.
They both the same
3000k is still a lot of people. I thought 3000k would be a more realistic number than 3 million.
Here's an example of what I mean by understatment:
suppose big earthquake happens. 3000k people die in it. Damage cost 1 trillion dollars.
Then John says that earthquake did some damage. What he said is an understatement. Most people think some damage means only few people died and damage wasn't too bad.
Earthquake did very bad damage because 3000k people died and there was a lot of damage. So to say earthquake only did some damage is understatement.
When I said it's an understatement, I was being sarcastic about FJ arguing all the time. I get annoyed by FJ because she will argue about anything. She argues so much that
3000k is still a lot of people. I thought 3000k would be a more realistic number than 3 million.
Are you reading three thousand as 3 million?
ahhh.... k = thousand. 3,000 = 3 thousand. 3,000k = 3,000,000 = 3m :P Thats how I saw it.
ahhh.... k = thousand. 3,000 = 3 thousand. 3,000k = 3,000,000 = 3m :P Thats how I saw it.
ah. I should have said 3k then. :p
Fuzzy, sorry but you're wrong. Yes, a kid who gets absolutly ZERO benifit from HA, would benifit from early implantation, BUT is there a hugely drastic difference between someone who got implanted THE VERY SECOND it was found they didn't benifit from HA and someone who had some decent residual hearing, and waited a bit for implantation? Not nessarily a year but a few months?And here we disagree.
For to babies to receive the most benefits from CI is to implants ASAP.
Any later, and you are missing the point.
As long as implantation does not interfere with learning ASL and having
and access to Deaf Culture, why would one be against that, is beyond me.
Or, rather, I know- it's a personal view based not in objectivity
but deeply rooted in personal early experiences.
You, Bebonang, had had a bad early experiences as a deaf person.
So did Shel.
Both of you because of that intensely dislike now anything that has to do with hearing, speech, oralism etc.
You love everything that has to do with deaf, Deaf and ASL because only there you finally, at last,
felt fully accepted, non -judged and fully understood.
You deny all that, but in fact every time we are discussing this subject your personal experiences come to surface and color your opinion whether you know it or not.
To the contrary, people who had positive experiences with hearing while growing up - they are more accepting toward CI than those who had negative experiences and were denied access to ASL and the Deaf ties.
Fuzzy
I aware it AG bell in strong on CI and deaf, reason just to deaf reason point! that is why on points serious! strong on debated! that is crazy on debates I already on befores on debates on research on alldeaf!
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people who could not hear or understand spoken language their entire life and then were implanted as adults and no longer lipread? They can understand running spoken language with their backs turned or from behind a door, or over the phone?
deafdyke said:Wirelessly posted
people who could not hear or understand spoken language their entire life and then were implanted as adults and no longer lipread? They can understand running spoken language with their backs turned or from behind a door, or over the phone?
Why are you so preoccupied with that as the Gold Standard? Why do you see lipreading as a "crutch?" Besides, comprehension with a CI/HA has more to do with hearing people unconsciously modifying their speech patterns to make it easier for dhh people to understand them. It is VERY hard for
And you know what? I (and MANY other hoh...both functionally and audilogically hoh) can understand spoken language without speechreading ...but in CHUNKS...not nessarily with complex information, such as inflection or tone of voice beign used etc.