The Talking Deafie

Bottesini said:
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Just wait until you are ready. I think you can pretty much walk in anywhere around here and get seated.
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Depending upon which part of Iowa you are in would be better for me to drive or fly??? It'll take me two days to get up there if I drive.
 
Dixie said:
Depending upon which part of Iowa you are in would be better for me to drive or fly??? It'll take me two days to get up there if I drive.
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I live in Des Moines. Drive! It is on the interstate and our airport sucks.
 
Bottesini said:
I live in Des Moines. Drive! It is on the interstate and our airport sucks.
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Hmm, sounds like a road trip is in the works then. I can stay overnight in St. Louis (Westport area) then make it to Des Moines sometime the next evening if I drive hard enough. When I arrive I'll be booking a hotel with a pool. You could show me around the city and maybe do some shopping. Then we could post about it here, hopefully we don't end up getting a free ride to the police station!:giggle:
 
sr171soars said:
The topic of the thread...

First to get out of the way, I'm oral deaf through and through. First, I had a HA since 3 and a CI since 47. With my HA, I had a slight deaf voice that most didn't really notice and I was a little bit nasel. Now with a CI, I lost all traces of the deaf voice and speak much more naturally. I will say that a CI really allows one to hear oneself really well. Makes a big difference with one's speech.
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Yes, I'm another that it wasn't till I got the CI was when I realized the extent I was nasal. And how my "S"s sometime sounded like a "D" or the extent I didn't always blow enough air for an "H". Although I'm starting to make such sounds more regularly as I continue to work on them...
 
I'm deaf oral...I was born deaf-profound in left hear, HA in right. I couldn't talk til I was 2 when my adopted mum started to teach me to speak in voice....years of speech therapy, which I HATED...I never knew about deaf world or signing...my parents didn't want me to be involved in the deaf world, so I didn't learn about the deaf or about Auslan til 11-12 years ago. Now I have quite a few deaf friends, and I sign quite well, and when I am around my hearing friends, I talk really well with them. I'm seen as the bridge between two worlds at my church, because I interpret for the deaf (who don't don't speak-only sign), and the hearing world who can't sign. I quite enjoy it at times, but there have been times and still are where I wonder exactly which world I really belong in...seems so often some deaf see me as hearing bse I'm oral as well as signing, and treat me like a bit of an outcast and with great suspicion, like I'm not really one of them, and some hearing see me as deaf, and don't have much patience for me when I ask them to repeat what they say or to let me lipread them. *sighs*

AuslanGirl :)
 
MidnightSun said:
wow that is amazing to me..that you wished you had never learned to talk,
I say that because, I find I am not fully accepted in the deaf community because i do speak well...I have even been accused of faking my deafness
yeah like i stuck pencils in my ears...geez....:wave:
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It wasn't easy for me to be accepted in the deaf community either. Many deaf people were really harsh to me because they knew I could, and did, speak.

Many people think I'm hard of hearing and choose to refuse to believe I'm profoundly deaf.

When I tried to get transferred to the deaf school when I was in high school, the audiologist heard me speak to my parents...she concluded I had too much hearing to qualify. WITHOUT looking at my audiogram or assessments. My mother told her I was deaf in both ears. She finally agreed to doing an audiogram...and she was shocked. Then she made me to two more just to make sure I wasn't "faking" it. Then she saw my other assessments from other aud's and saw their assessments were the same results as hers. She finally looked at my mother and said, "She's deaf. She really is."

I regret learning how to speak because it makes it harder on me. People assume I can hear good enough, so they won't provide the appropriate modifications. I can talk to them, so they often won't write back what they are saying or take the time to make sure I can understand them. Some of them will make the assumption that all deaf people can speak like me, which makes me a bad role model. I feel a lot of deaf people resent me for being able to speak, and I hide the fact I can whenever possible. Speaking is hard work. And when I do use speech I can't help but feel dirty about it. I feel like I'm betraying my true self or something.

By speaking, I'm putting myself in the middle - with no place to belong.
 
AuslanGirl said:
I'm deaf oral...I was born deaf-profound in left hear, HA in right. I couldn't talk til I was 2 when my adopted mum started to teach me to speak in voice....years of speech therapy, which I HATED...I never knew about deaf world or signing...my parents didn't want me to be involved in the deaf world, so I didn't learn about the deaf or about Auslan til 11-12 years ago. Now I have quite a few deaf friends, and I sign quite well, and when I am around my hearing friends, I talk really well with them. I'm seen as the bridge between two worlds at my church, because I interpret for the deaf (who don't don't speak-only sign), and the hearing world who can't sign. I quite enjoy it at times, but there have been times and still are where I wonder exactly which world I really belong in...seems so often some deaf see me as hearing bse I'm oral as well as signing, and treat me like a bit of an outcast and with great suspicion, like I'm not really one of them, and some hearing see me as deaf, and don't have much patience for me when I ask them to repeat what they say or to let me lipread them. *sighs*

AuslanGirl :)
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Wow! Do I *EVER* know what you mean. Which world do I belong in? It's hardly my fault that my hearing parents wouldn't allow me to assimilate amongst my own community of people, as it were, so why do so many Deaf reject a deafie who can speak?
 
deafbajagal said:
It wasn't easy for me to be accepted in the deaf community either. Many deaf people were really harsh to me because they knew I could, and did, speak.

Many people think I'm hard of hearing and choose to refuse to believe I'm profoundly deaf.

When I tried to get transferred to the deaf school when I was in high school, the audiologist heard me speak to my parents...she concluded I had too much hearing to qualify. WITHOUT looking at my audiogram or assessments. My mother told her I was deaf in both ears. She finally agreed to doing an audiogram...and she was shocked. Then she made me to two more just to make sure I wasn't "faking" it. Then she saw my other assessments from other aud's and saw their assessments were the same results as hers. She finally looked at my mother and said, "She's deaf. She really is."

I regret learning how to speak because it makes it harder on me. People assume I can hear good enough, so they won't provide the appropriate modifications. I can talk to them, so they often won't write back what they are saying or take the time to make sure I can understand them. Some of them will make the assumption that all deaf people can speak like me, which makes me a bad role model. I feel a lot of deaf people resent me for being able to speak, and I hide the fact I can whenever possible. Speaking is hard work. And when I do use speech I can't help but feel dirty about it. I feel like I'm betraying my true self or something.

By speaking, I'm putting myself in the middle - with no place to belong.
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I've experienced the exact same thing. My audiologist, however, was more shocked at how well I've done in life considering I had no support whatsoever to be assisted in my communication.

<whispering> I also have moments where I feel dirty. Isn't that ridiculous? We are fortunate to be able to communicate so well in both languages and shouldn't feel dirty about it and yet, especially when I'm around other deafies who only know sign, I feel so dirty annunciating words.
 
AuslanGirl said:
I'm deaf oral...I was born deaf-profound in left hear, HA in right. I couldn't talk til I was 2 when my adopted mum started to teach me to speak in voice....years of speech therapy, which I HATED...I never knew about deaf world or signing...my parents didn't want me to be involved in the deaf world, so I didn't learn about the deaf or about Auslan til 11-12 years ago. Now I have quite a few deaf friends, and I sign quite well, and when I am around my hearing friends, I talk really well with them. I'm seen as the bridge between two worlds at my church, because I interpret for the deaf (who don't don't speak-only sign), and the hearing world who can't sign. I quite enjoy it at times, but there have been times and still are where I wonder exactly which world I really belong in...seems so often some deaf see me as hearing bse I'm oral as well as signing, and treat me like a bit of an outcast and with great suspicion, like I'm not really one of them, and some hearing see me as deaf, and don't have much patience for me when I ask them to repeat what they say or to let me lipread them. *sighs*

AuslanGirl :)
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I'm starting to realize there is another world...not a deaf world where there are native signers and not a hearing world...but a world of people like you, me, and others who share similar experiences. We're "mainstreaming" yet either the deaf and the hearing world isn't too accepting. How ironic.
 
rebeccalj said:
I've experienced the exact same thing. My audiologist, however, was more shocked at how well I've done in life considering I had no support whatsoever to be assisted in my communication.

<whispering> I also have moments where I feel dirty. Isn't that ridiculous? We are fortunate to be able to communicate so well in both languages and shouldn't feel dirty about it and yet, especially when I'm around other deafies who only know sign, I feel so dirty annunciating words.
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Exactly.

It's funny how after so many years of meeting deaf people, either in life or on a forum such as this one, I still get amazed that I'm not alone in my experiences. For so long, I thought I was the only one. That's the price of isolation...that haunting feeling of loneliness where no one can relate. And there are so many of us out there.
 
have your hearing friends talk to you through lipread or voice like no signing? and why?
 
I am embraased of forget speechreading practice long time.

Because school for the deaf and gallaudet should have allow us talk through speech read but lot of signing all the time seem usually much than speechread if you plan to talk to hearing friends...I went to georgetown to see friend, talk but forget how i can speak myself.

Have ur girl talk to you at ur school before? how u feel?

read my previous thread about experience at mainstream see why signing is option if hearing dont really sign but you want them sign then they seem give up for your time because they didnt sign all the time in hearing world same as mine.
 
my point is...

I did not tell hearing friends I am deaf until last...but i was not surprise my parents or friends tell others i cannot hear without my permission but is it properly? because some i know they did not tell until last...

is it happened experience in mainstream before?
 
matajan said:
I am embraased of forget speechreading practice long time.

Because school for the deaf and gallaudet should have allow us talk through speech read but lot of signing all the time seem usually much than speechread if you plan to talk to hearing friends...I went to georgetown to see friend, talk but forget how i can speak myself.

Have ur girl talk to you at ur school before? how u feel?

read my previous thread about experience at mainstream see why signing is option if hearing dont really sign but you want them sign then they seem give up for your time because they didnt sign all the time in hearing world same as mine.
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matajan said:
I did not tell hearing friends I am deaf until last...but i was not surprise my parents or friends tell others i cannot hear without my permission but is it properly? because some i know they did not tell until last...

is it happened experience in mainstream before?
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do you have a psychologist to talk to about this?
 
Jiro said:
why not? a psychologist can answer many of your questions better than us.
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If you went to local high school, you know you will have bunch of friends

But you went to private school, it seems limit and only you can make new friends from your rival or league schools same as I did. You know how I feel?

I do not understand why many deafies did not realize they do not have social with local friends when go school for the deaf, yeah it is cool cuz for education. Later, they never see each other after hs, go back to hometown same as phillip exeter academy or princeton day school or rugters preparatory school it called independent is different from local.

See why george bush is really lonely and alone but decide to preside his position for years ever he went to exeter to find those life is not same from local.
 
I am sure that hearing friends have no idea of public or local schools like same as I did, already conservation with them before. If we went to same school, we could know each other but outside is not easy like you want to meet rugters prep girl instead of ur high school.
 
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