The history of Mary Kay Letourneau

[Angel]

Didn't vote--why? Considering the case has been closed and she served time for what is viewed by the majority as morally wrong, yet, serving her 'time' and perhaps even she asked for 'forgiveness' from the One above....There's no point for me to 'label' her as this or that 'NOW'...sadly enough, she has been labeled from left to right many things--Just hope that this couple have blessings and what's done has been 'dealt' with between 'them' and the One above. Bluntantly put, I agree to disagree with 'voting' in this poll (no offense to the creator of this poll)--in other words and simply 'leave them alone'.

Well put Roadrunner!

 

[Oceanbreeze]

Let's just hope none of your children ever get such a "loving" teacher. But then again, I guess it is OK with some parents.

BTW, I have nothing against people repenting and God forgiving them. That is between the two of them. But I still want sexual predators to register, and not be allowed to teach in schools.

I agree with you. Forgiveness does not imply there are no consequences for ones actions. Mary Kay seems to think there are no consequences for her actions, and that is one of the things that bothers me so much about this. She snubbed the judge when she repeated the act that nullified her plea agreement. She went to prison, and she STILL THINKS that what she did was alright.

If she asked God for forgiveness, great, but wouldn't one's actions demonstrate that repentance?

 

[Oceanbreeze]

Leave Mary Kay alone.

Go mess with the other perverts.

I'm sorry, Miss P, but all perverts need to be treated the same. They need to be locked up for the remainder of their lives, so they can't hurt people anymore.

 

[Vance]

I agree with you. Forgiveness does not imply there are no consequences for ones actions. Mary Kay seems to think there are no consequences for her actions, and that is one of the things that bothers me so much about this. She snubbed the judge when she repeated the act that nullified her plea agreement. She went to prison, and she STILL THINKS that what she did was alright.

If she asked God for forgiveness, great, but wouldn't one's actions demonstrate that repentance?

I hate to say that but I have to disagree with you. She did served her time in the jail. In other words, she already accepted the consequence for her actions. I honestly would think that is enough... Yes, yes I must admit that I personally think it is gross... as I already shared my opinion about this situation with you through our PMs but who am I to judge them? After all, love has its own different version and levels... as long as they are offically adults. Last time, I checked, Kay is 43 years old and Fualaau is 22 years old.

Let's just hope none of your children ever get such a "loving" teacher. But then again, I guess it is OK with some parents.

Hmmm. I reread others' posts and I don't see anywhere in this topic that AD'ers were implying that they don't mind to let their children near the teachers like Kay. Or unless their comments somehow vanished or I somehow miss?

 

[Cheri]

I hate to say that but I have to disagree with you. She did served her time in the jail. In other words, she already accepted the consequence for her actions. I honestly would think that is enough... Yes, yes I must admit that I personally think it is gross... as I already shared my opinion about this situation with you through our PMs but who am I to judge them? After all, love has its own different version and levels... as long as they are offically adults. Last time, I checked, Kay is 43 years old and Fualaau is 22 years old.:

Amen! That's what I've said since they are offical adults nothing we can do about it. It's the same way with homosexual it doesn't effect anyone's life who they love, and it shouldn't effect our life either, If Mary and Vili are married, If that is what they want then we should leave them alone.

 

[saxxykitty78]

I voted.. "sex offender"

 

[CatoCooper13]

What she did was wrong, He was only in second grade When I read the link, I don't understand why he was only in second grade at the age of 12.

It was said that Mary and Vili met when Vili was in 2nd grade, yes...but they didn't start having a sexual relationship UNTIL he was 12.

Overall, I feel that talking about this is a waste of time, just my opinion...there's really nothing much we can do about them or the way they perceived things. People from the outside will think of them as nuts or stupid, but for them, it's a totally different story. They love each others - I reckon getting married proved the point.
Yes, Mary did err by having sex with Vili whilst he was underage, but since Vili has vehemently denied that she raped him or anything wrong, so what that means - he didn't feel like he was raped, but loved by her. *shrugs*

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I did not vote. For one my heart is not much hate or judge against her alike I have seen in here.

That's why I vote "other" because I do not consider Mary as sex offender or child rapist.

Sure, Mary made one mistake for break the law to have sex with underage child but it belongs PAST.

I only created a thread to make people clear that Mary is different as Child Rapist or Sex Offender like what the people judge/bitching on Magastu's thread over her.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Anyways, Now that he is 22, He decide to married her and It's out of my hands and his parents as well because he is above 21 at age and there is nothing nobody can do about it.


Liebling)), I have the same feelings you do.

That's all I wanted to say on this topic. Thank-you.

Exactly

What Mary made one mistake but it belongs PAST. They have my blessing!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

If, it is about Love that is strong for both of them -- then, there is no need to vote. Both of them do have the feelings for each other...mind ya and others.

I would just let their course take its toll and let it unfolds down the road on its own.

Exactly

Check my response post to Jazzy.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Didn't vote--why? Considering the case has been closed and she served time for what is viewed by the majority as morally wrong, yet, serving her 'time' and perhaps even she asked for 'forgiveness' from the One above....There's no point for me to 'label' her as this or that 'NOW'...sadly enough, she has been labeled from left to right many things--Just hope that this couple have blessings and what's done has been 'dealt' with between 'them' and the One above. Bluntantly put, I agree to disagree with 'voting' in this poll (no offense to the creator of this poll)--in other words and simply 'leave them alone'.

That's why I vote "other" instead of Sex Offender, Child rapist/sex abusive.

Please re-read my opinion over Mary and Vilie. I see none of my post to judge them but make the clear that Mary is not sex offender/child rapist etc what the people label/bitchingk/judge her.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I'm sorry, Miss P, but all perverts need to be treated the same. They need to be locked up for the remainder of their lives, so they can't hurt people anymore.

Sorry, I have to disagree with you.

Mary is not one of perverts.

It would be different story if a boy feel uncomfortable and dont want to have her or feel being force by her but he didn't BECAUSE he KNEW what he WANT from her.

Rapist mean is: Force you to have sex, sex violence, where the victims don’t want/like and feel uncomfortable.

Sex offender mean is: kind of sex abusive, touch part etc where the victims don’t like/feel uncomfortable.

That's what boy do not feel being sex abusive/rape by Mary because he love her and WANT from her. It's difference.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I hate to say that but I have to disagree with you. She did served her time in the jail. In other words, she already accepted the consequence for her actions. I honestly would think that is enough... Yes, yes I must admit that I personally think it is gross... as I already shared my opinion about this situation with you through our PMs but who am I to judge them? After all, love has its own different version and levels... as long as they are offically adults. Last time, I checked, Kay is 43 years old and Fualaau is 22 years old.

Hmmm. I reread others' posts and I don't see anywhere in this topic that AD'ers were implying that they don't mind to let their children near the teachers like Kay. Or unless their comments somehow vanished or I somehow miss?

and AMEN

 

[Liebling:-)))]

It was said that Mary and Vili met when Vili was in 2nd grade, yes...but they didn't start having a sexual relationship UNTIL he was 12.

Overall, I feel that talking about this is a waste of time, just my opinion...there's really nothing much we can do about them or the way they perceived things. People from the outside will think of them as nuts or stupid, but for them, it's a totally different story. They love each others - I reckon getting married proved the point.
Yes, Mary did err by having sex with Vili whilst he was underage, but since Vili has vehemently denied that she raped him or anything wrong, so what that means - he didn't feel like he was raped, but loved by her. *shrugs*

I do not consider it as waste time but interesting to share the opinions with anyone here. I don't know either you read Magastu's removed thread over Mary or not because there're bitching/judging. That's why I created a new thread to make people see clear that Mary and Vili are an adult now and want to marry is their business.

I already explained that Mary and Vili love each other and she knew she made a mistake is have sex with underage student, that's all. Vili do not consider it as rape/sex abuse because he LOVE her. It prove that it's true love because they MARRIED... They have my blessing. People should leave them alone because they are an adult now and know what they doing is their own business. I can't see the sense why the people dig their past out and bitching/judging them....

Look the example what the people bitching/judging Charles & Camillia. I already explain the people in my thread about them. I do the same about Mary and Vili.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Click "photo essay" to see few of nice pictures of Mary and Vili.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/28/earlyshow/main691508.shtml

Love is powerful.

 

[jazzy]

That's why I vote "other" because I do not consider Mary as sex offender or child rapist.

Sure, Mary made one mistake for break the law to have sex with underage child but it belongs PAST.

I only created a thread to make people clear that Mary is different as Child Rapist or Sex Offender like what the people judge/bitching on Magastu's thread over her.

You speak of SVP, sexual violent predators, for some reason she does not fit this profile. I had this discussion once with my sister who used to work with those svp men at state hospital. She said those men had no souls and should never be out on the street. You know she was attacked by one of the svp patient and she spent years of therapy. Never will be well for her but this young man does not show any traumazied by his teacher at all. Probably he enjoyed it.

Other thing about sex register offender, anyone would be a sex offender. I knew this young man, I watched him grow up then got arrested for had a sex with 16 years old when he was 18. Now he is one of the sex registers for rest of his life. I found him on sex register and live next street from me. He is not one of svp but already is a exfelon and register. What a tragedy.

 

[Angel]

Yeah you are both right, Mary Kay doesn't fit in this profile as being a sex offender cause the boy is still with her and is very much in love with her, alot of children would avoid being near any sex offenders that raped them or sexually abused them...

And Thanks for the link Liebling, as I said in another thread it does look like true love to me....If it wasn't then he wouldn't bother married her or sticking around so long for her....They seem like a perfect couple to me....And I'm not going to judge those two but to leave them alone....

 

[Maria]

That's why I vote "other" because I do not consider Mary as sex offender or child rapist.

Sure, Mary made one mistake for break the law to have sex with underage child but it belongs PAST.

I only created a thread to make people clear that Mary is different as Child Rapist or Sex Offender like what the people judge/bitching on Magastu's thread over her.

Yeah I noticed Magastu's thread is gone. I was goin' to say somethin' in there, but one of MODS removed Magastu's thread. I already know why it has been deleted.

 

[The*Empress]

I'm sorry, Miss P, but all perverts need to be treated the same. They need to be locked up for the remainder of their lives, so they can't hurt people anymore.

Well Mary and her now husband created LIFE, they have 2 children...
and they have to raise them right.... that is just a low key crime...

I am talking about perverts who created Aids, raping kids after kidnapping them, or burying them alive, or forcing themselves on kids, perverts who have sex with animals, pervs who have sex with siblings... those kind of wrongdoing, going to hell kinda way.

Mary won't go to hell for that, as long as she asked forgiveness...
and face Karma... not by people, but her to have her own self guilt,
and try to do the right thing... because children are important.

 

[Oceanbreeze]

Well Mary and her now husband created LIFE, they have 2 children...
and they have to raise them right.... that is just a low key crime...

I am talking about perverts who created Aids, raping kids after kidnapping them, or burying them alive, or forcing themselves on kids, perverts who have sex with animals, pervs who have sex with siblings... those kind of wrongdoing, going to hell kinda way.

Mary won't go to hell for that, as long as she asked forgiveness...
and face Karma... not by people, but her to have her own self guilt,
and try to do the right thing... because children are important.

Mary Kay is no different than your average sex offender, and she shouldn't be treated any differently. Doesn't matter if she has children or not. Wrong is wrong.