Technological progress: better hearing than normal hearing

kokonut said:
I like to hear sound, music, my daughters' voices, talking and listening, and so on.
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and?

kokonut said:
So what? I don't have a problem with that but you do? Interesting.
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nothing in MM's post said anything about hearing.

kokonut said:
I'm still deaf yet hoh and wears a hearing aid, although not perfect.
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correction - you called yourself and preferred to call yourself as HoH instead of deaf.

kokonut said:
So, how does attacking a deaf/hh person for expressing his/her own personal experience do anything?
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where?
 
posts from hell said:
To people of the likes of you, I can see why. But in reality it is, like Jiro put it, tough love.
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many of us grew up getting told to tough it out and that it was tough love. Now, it is your turn.
 
shel90 said:
many of us grew up getting told to tough it out and that it was tough love. Now, it is your turn.
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Nah, you're doing it out of spite. I can tell.

Each of us struggled differently growing up. HHS was expressing his own version on his own struggles. Each of us struggled differently. Why minimize his or others?
 
kokonut said:
Nah, you're doing it out of spite. I can tell.

Each of us struggled differently growing up. HHS was expressing his own version on his own struggles. Each of us struggled differently. Why minimize his or others?
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minimize? lol wot?

we're telling him to pucker up and showing him we did it.
 
I do often feel the same type of emotion as HHScientist. Of course I am an older person...
 
Bottesini said:
I do often feel the same type of emotion as HHScientist. Of course I am an older person...
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Sadly,I am sure many people feel that way. It's a shame some have chosen to trivialize those feelings.
 
Mountain Man said:
Seriously? You consider life that challenging simply because you can't hear? It's actually a struggle for you to even survive? Good grief. You need to have a long talk with the many happy and successful Deaf people in the world because your perspective is pretty screwed up.
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On the other hand, I think this is a very common reaction for people who were raised auditory-verbal (meaning oral only, hearing schools and camps and little to no contact with other dhh kids)
You know, just 15 years ago I HATED my hearing aids and being HOH. I even had surgery (canalplasty) to become hearing. Yet, I discovered Deaf culture and the POSITIVE side of being dhh, and that changed my life!
 
posts from hell said:
woooooo... take it easy. his perspective is that way because of the "system".... Not his fault.

But I see what you mean.
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It's not normal for me to jump on someone like that. This touched a sore spot in me back when I was still struggling with my identity. I agree that there is a time for tough love, but this is not that time. This is a time to let him vent and see that he is allowed to have those feelings. Give him time and he will work though them just as I did and many others here. If he pushes his feelings onto others, that's when it's time for tough love. That's someone thriving on misery. I don't see this as the case.

I think he has come to the right place, let's give him room to grow where it's safer to do so and where others can understand.
 
kokonut said:
HHS was simply expressing his own feelings on his day to day experience attacking no one and was roundly attacked instead.
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Thanks for defending me.

Mountain Man said:
Seriously? You consider life that challenging simply because you can't hear? It's actually a struggle for you to even survive? Good grief. You need to have a long talk with the many happy and successful Deaf people in the world because your perspective is pretty screwed up.
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I was writing that post when I was completely new here on AD. People often relate difficulty in relative terms and I have never known any deaf or HOH person before (except a relative at a late stage in life). The stories that I have heard here have been a source of knowledge and a source of inspiration to me. I could only relate to my own experience and that implied several years of switching between being unemployed, writing work applications and attending university. That state of uncertainty is not nice to live with, and I find that managing such difficulties to be an 'Olympic' experience. I have a job and I am quite fine. But I am still finding it difficult at times to do 'the right thing' in world where all social rules are made by and for hearing people. And I am still learning from the stories of other deaf and HOH people - stories that I never would hear if the Internet did not exist.
 
Cheetah said:
It's not normal for me to jump on someone like that. This touched a sore spot in me back when I was still struggling with my identity. I agree that there is a time for tough love, but this is not that time. This is a time to let him vent and see that he is allowed to have those feelings. Give him time and he will work though them just as I did and many others here. If he pushes his feelings onto others, that's when it's time for tough love. That's someone thriving on misery. I don't see this as the case.

I think he has come to the right place, let's give him room to grow where it's safer to do so and where others can understand.
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Thx. Wise words.
 
shel90 said:
many of us grew up getting told to tough it out and that it was tough love. Now, it is your turn.
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The world is changing. We are moving away from mechanical work and 'hard skills' to brain work and 'soft skills'. There are both good and bad things related to that, but 'being tough' is becoming outdated.
 
deafdyke said:
Same old " this might happen." Not impressed at all......besides if you can hear better then with normal hearing, insurance companies are not going to cover it at all.
As for the dude who moved from the Special Olympics to the regular Olympics....SO is mostly for people with intellectucal disabilties. Besides there's no rule saying that a disabled person can't parcipate in the regular Olympics....I doubt you have to have perfect hearing to be in the regular Olympics.
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Right. Terence Parkin of South Africa swam in few of the regular Olympics.
List of Deaf world records in swimming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
HH scientist said:
The world is changing. We are moving away from mechanical work and 'hard skills' to brain work and 'soft skills'. There are both good and bad things related to that, but 'being tough' is becoming outdated.
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Oh...so that gives a good excuse for the next generation to be weak and not accepting of their own fate? Just whine and play the blame game? Now, I know where my children are going wrong. I will enforce this "tough love" on them so they wont become soft and whiny as adults.
 
kokonut said:
Could happen. Could also see a new class of "super" soldiers with advanced hearing and vision with the help of technology.
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What super soldiers??? They are busy trying to sleep because they are kept awaken so much by the noises of snoring, the sounds made by moving around, and even earthworms moving thru earth --- you get the idea.
 
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