Tasteless or Not?

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its not sick, this man was trapped, in a burning building, like many people on that terrible day, chose to jump instead being burned alive. The interesting thing was that, when media investigators found out the family related to this man, declined to be interviewed in belief he wont be in heaven but hell because according to catholic suicide is a sin... i think that's pretty fucked up thinking anyhow... just thought id mention it, because that image 'was deemed tasteless' since it was 'seen as a failure of USA' no body there (in usa) got hack it. Kind of in a round about way that media is so powerful yet ironically this image rejected.

It is hard for some to percieve this a good thing, while some things we need to forget. With internet at hand, do we need to be able to access all this information easily, because we could learn different perspectives from it.
Put differently, we must realise this is something that has actually happened and it is not a myth that it has happened, right?
 
It is definitely tasteless. Just because you may not like it doesn't mean that you should have to say it out loud.

In no way, that should have been appropriate. Sure, maybe he gets tired of hearing of this but on a national radio show? Come on. I suppose his common sense went right out of the window.
 
Grummer said:
define 'tasteless' or is it just unique to the americans? now what about the video "the falling man'??
i suppose its banned in USA is it not?
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Disprespecting the grief and tragedy experienced by the victim, the witnesses, and the survivors of a tragedy is most certainly tasteless whether you are in America or anywhere else. Making light of the pain experienced, and the ongoing difficulties experienced by these people is tasteless, no matter where you are.:cool2:
 
jillio said:
Disprespecting the grief and tragedy experienced by the victim, the witnesses, and the survivors of a tragedy is most certainly tasteless whether you are in America or anywhere else. Making light of the pain experienced, and the ongoing difficulties experienced by these people is tasteless, no matter where you are.:cool2:
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jillio said:
Disprespecting the grief and tragedy experienced by the victim, the witnesses, and the survivors of a tragedy is most certainly tasteless whether you are in America or anywhere else. Making light of the pain experienced, and the ongoing difficulties experienced by these people is tasteless, no matter where you are.:cool2:
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Im not being crude here, im serious, it is a dreadful thing to happen, absolutely, no dispute on that.
have you seen the falling man? it is quite an important film to see, but i wouldnt recommend it to just 'anybody', it does make you 'feel' what its like to be here with all these interviews, i quite dont know whats the fitting words to describe it, maybe searingly insightful?.
 
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It keep jogging my mind when i saw on tv that someone videotapes on people who jumped off from the building. it broke my heart, and got goosebumps all over my body. :(
 
I saw the special about Falling Man. I thought that it was tastefully done. The person in the video was tentatively identified and the family of the man in question talked about how they felt. This story raises religious issue for some people. I was sensitively handled. The producers ultimately concluded that the real identity of the man was not as important as telling the story of the people who jumped that day. It's a very sensitive subject and some people may not want to watch the video.

TRIGGER WARNING: viewer discretion advised

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXnA9FjvLSU]YouTube - 9/11 The Falling Man[/ame]
 
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I can't find a transcript of this video. Can people watch it CC? I know that it's possible but I don't know how to add CC.

Regarding the image: it's a photograph of a man falling head first from the tower; the photograph perspective is from the side so that you see the silhouette of his face; he has one leg straight and one leg bent at the knee; his arms are straight down at his sides; he's wearing black pants, a white jacket like chefs wear and black sneakers (the film makes a tentative identification based on this); the picture has a connotation of being frozen in time; it evokes a very emotional response as if the picture is not real
 
Thanks for the description, sallylou.

Wow, that must be a really powerful video. I can't imagine.
 
It's a very powerful story. My heart went out the loved ones who were trying find out what happened to their family member. Many people were found on the concrete below the tower. Some of the loved ones hoped that the person in the image was their loved one just because they wanted to know what happened. They were disappointed when they found out it was not their family member.

The man in the picture was never positively identified. The experts narrowed it down to two men who worked in the restaurant on the top floor.

The tone of the film is to honor the jumpers, believing that ignoring their story is disrespecting their experience and death. One person pointed out that deciding to jump may have been the only way that the jumpers would have had control over their own fate. It would have been a desperate act to take control over the manner of their imminent death.

One jumper had spoken with her husband immediately before she jumped and she had to hang up because she could not breathe. Jumpers may have desired to hasten their deaths and avoid asphyxiation. Their choice should be understood and honored.
 
sallylou said:
I can't find a transcript of this video. Can people watch it CC? I know that it's possible but I don't know how to add CC.

Regarding the image: it's a photograph of a man falling head first from the tower; the photograph perspective is from the side so that you see the silhouette of his face; he has one leg straight and one leg bent at the knee; his arms are straight down at his sides; he's wearing black pants, a white jacket like chefs wear and black sneakers (the film makes a tentative identification based on this); the picture has a connotation of being frozen in time; it evokes a very emotional response as if the picture is not real
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I would stick with transcript.

As much I like closed captioning, my limit is at 5 minutes of video (which translate to 2-3 hours of my own time syncing it) before I would declare it "not worth my time." The video you posted is an hour and 11 minutes long.

Wish there is a transcript available though.
 
Me, too. I can't find a transcript. It never aired on American tv and that may be why I can't find a transcript.
 
sallylou said:
Me, too. I can't find a transcript. It never aired on American tv and that may be why I can't find a transcript.
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it was banned , that particular image was banned one day after a newspaper publishing
 
Grummer, do you know who banned it? I thought that the mainstream media CEOs made that decision but I can't find confirmation of that.
 
sallylou said:
It's a very powerful story. My heart went out the loved ones who were trying find out what happened to their family member. Many people were found on the concrete below the tower. Some of the loved ones hoped that the person in the image was their loved one just because they wanted to know what happened. They were disappointed when they found out it was not their family member.

The man in the picture was never positively identified. The experts narrowed it down to two men who worked in the restaurant on the top floor.

The tone of the film is to honor the jumpers, believing that ignoring their story is disrespecting their experience and death. One person pointed out that deciding to jump may have been the only way that the jumpers would have had control over their own fate. It would have been a desperate act to take control over the manner of their imminent death.

One jumper had spoken with her husband immediately before she jumped and she had to hang up because she could not breathe. Jumpers may have desired to hasten their deaths and avoid asphyxiation. Their choice should be understood and honored.
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yes thats right, but it was also to demonstrate how an other perspective can be a valid one, one that face the truth in order to learn from the tragedy and thenn move on not in denial but in understanding why people jumped. It wasn't hysteria, just plain fear of the fire and the choice to die with diginity. In spite of this, on the contrary to popular thinking, western religion had a strong grip on people to denouce suicide. What jumpers did wasnt suicide - how can it be? Moreso, the documentary subtley showed -if not directly- how stupid religion is, it has no say in how we to make meanings of people's death, especially in this highly unusal situation.
 
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