Taliban executes a 7-years old boy for spying

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I remember I saw a video clip (with no CC or subtitle) that man shot a woman's head and another women were so scared and back off... I think it is somewhere else in South America.

So, I think it is horrible to read that the boy was being killed. I always want to understand how different cultures are and how people think so different. Still, I think it is sad that what and how they think of various reasons are so unjust. =/
 
Buffalo said:
I'd like to hear more on this. I know that in Jordan, 7 years old boys are considered to be men.
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Can you please explain further? Do you mean 7-year-old boys have all legal civil rights and responsibilities? Or do you mean all religious and cultural rights? What exactly do you mean?
 
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I just read TXGolfer's current post.

Wow... :(
 
Beowulf said:
How about saying that executing a 7 year old kid is acceptable to SOME cultures but not to ours, and let it go at that?
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How about saying murdering a 7-year-old kid is acceptable?

NOT!

How can it be an execution if the entity carrying it out is not legal, and did not follow a legal process, and was condemned by that country's leaders?
 
Jiro said:
like I said - spying is punishable by death..... regardless of age and gender. That's how war is.
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That's not true for the governments of all countries.
 
Jiro said:
do you find it acceptable to see a 7 years old kid spying for others especially when it's extremely dangerous?
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The Taliban said he was spying; there is no proof that the boy was spying. If he was, who sent him out to spy, and under what conditions (force, intimidation, trickery)?

Using children to carry out dangerous missions is totally unacceptable.
 
TXgolfer said:
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Afghanistan
Afghan Taliban Hang 7-Year-Old Boy to Punish Family

Published June 11, 2010
| Times of London

A 7-year-old boy was murdered by the Taliban in an apparent act of retribution this week. Afghan officials said that the child was accused of spying for U.S. and NATO forces and hanged from a tree in southern Afghanistan.

Daoud Ahmadi, the spokesman for the provincial governor of Helmand, said that the killing happened days after the boy's grandfather, Abdul Woodod Alokozai, spoke out against militants in their home village.

Ahmadi said: "His grandfather is a tribal elder in the village and the village is under the control of the Taliban. His grandfather said some good things about the government and he formed a small group of people to stand against the Taliban. That's why the Taliban killed his grandson in revenge."

Shamsuddin Khan Faryie, an elder in the boy's home village of Heratiyan, said that the victim was seized as he played in his garden. He was found hanged from a nearby tree.

The killing of children to punish their families has echoes of Western mafia-style violence. Under Pashtunwali, the ancient honor code of the Pashtuns, it is likely to provoke more vendettas and blood-letting.
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Thanks for providing the rest of the story.

Yes, this is murder, not execution.
 
Don't disregard the fact this can happen in any nation. 30+ years of war can turn people into monsters.

What Taliban does, is Taliban business, and sure is pure evil but it's not like you can do anything.

Even then Afghanistan is not unique and there is no need to single them out.


How many children did the Nazis kill?
http://frank.mtsu.edu/~baustin/children.html

East Timor invasion from the Indonesians?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_invasion_of_East_Timor

Japan in Sino-Japanese Wars 1 and 2?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Sino-Japanese_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War

Japan to the Phillipines?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines_Campaign_(1941–42)


Union POW camps and gulags?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner-of-war_camp#Union_camps

CSA POW camps?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner-of-war_camp#Confederate_camps

How about what our soldiers did in VietNam in May Lai?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

(not exactly war related, but America anyway)
What about USA to the native americans?
http://www.amnestyusa.org/amnestynow/soulwound.html


There have never been justification for these on american soil, yet they still happen anyway.

Key word is: War
 
You know, Reba, in Iran they execute gay Iranians in public for being gay, even young teens. Is that acceptable to people in here or will they say that it's an Iranian law, and it's a "cultural thing"? No biggie. Move on. How about looking past this "cultural" thing for once and say it point blank that it's not acceptable rather than to hide behind this cultural curtain?

No. It's not acceptable to murder, execute or hang a 7 year old kid, regardless, when it comes to "law" or culture.
 
kokonut said:
You know, Reba, in Iran they execute gay Iranians in public for being gay, even young teens. Is that acceptable to people in here or will they say that it's an Iranian law, and it's a "cultural thing"? No biggie. Move on. How about looking past this "cultural" thing for once and say it point blank that it's not acceptable rather than to hide behind this cultural curtain?

No. It's not acceptable to murder, execute or hang a 7 year old kid, regardless, when it comes to "law" or culture.
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Who's "hiding" behind the "cultural curtain?" How about just looking past the curtain and making a comment, because after all, there isn't much one can do but froth in impotent rage? As far as I am concerned, it is not OUR problem. We have enough atrocious behavior toward our own children in our own country to warrant action, don't you think?
 
TXgolfer said:
UPDATE

Afghanistan
Afghan Taliban Hang 7-Year-Old Boy to Punish Family

Published June 11, 2010
| Times of London

A 7-year-old boy was murdered by the Taliban in an apparent act of retribution this week. Afghan officials said that the child was accused of spying for U.S. and NATO forces and hanged from a tree in southern Afghanistan.

Daoud Ahmadi, the spokesman for the provincial governor of Helmand, said that the killing happened days after the boy's grandfather, Abdul Woodod Alokozai, spoke out against militants in their home village.

Ahmadi said: "His grandfather is a tribal elder in the village and the village is under the control of the Taliban. His grandfather said some good things about the government and he formed a small group of people to stand against the Taliban. That's why the Taliban killed his grandson in revenge."

Shamsuddin Khan Faryie, an elder in the boy's home village of Heratiyan, said that the victim was seized as he played in his garden. He was found hanged from a nearby tree.

The killing of children to punish their families has echoes of Western mafia-style violence. Under Pashtunwali, the ancient honor code of the Pashtuns, it is likely to provoke more vendettas and blood-letting.
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now that's a different story. Punishing them by murdering a kid? :mad2:
 
Beowulf said:
Who's "hiding" behind the "cultural curtain?" How about just looking past the curtain and making a comment, because after all, there isn't much one can do but froth in impotent rage? As far as I am concerned, it is not OUR problem. We have enough atrocious behavior toward our own children in our own country to warrant action, don't you think?
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Straight to the point.


Generally speaking, I don't believe anyone in this thread thinks it's OK for a 7 year old kid to get killed, perhaps in extreme circumstances where a child grew up a murderer since early age and continues to kill.

But in warfare in other countries?
Who are you (not Beowulf) to judge what can and can't happen?


There is now an update, whether the article is written without bias or not we don't know. I would believe it is straight to the point.
In pure honesty it is condemnable yet at the same time, still does not make it equivalent to matters and affairs that needs to be handled by the USA.
 
Beowulf said:
Who's "hiding" behind the "cultural curtain?" How about just looking past the curtain and making a comment, because after all, there isn't much one can do but froth in impotent rage? As far as I am concerned, it is not OUR problem. We have enough atrocious behavior toward our own children in our own country to warrant action, don't you think?
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Not talking about action here. I'm simply talking about whether trotting out a 7 year old kid for an execution is acceptable or not. Is executing a couple of gay teens in Iran in a public square acceptable? The execution part? For being gay? Is that acceptable? Forget war. I'm talking something else entirely different here.
 
kokonut said:
Not talking about action here. I'm simply talking about whether trotting out a 7 year old kid for an execution is acceptable or not. Is executing a couple of gay teens in Iran in a public square acceptable? The execution part? For being gay? Is that acceptable? Forget war. I'm talking something else entirely different here.
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Glad to see you have your priorities in order.
 
kokonut said:
Not talking about action here. I'm simply talking about whether trotting out a 7 year old kid for an execution is acceptable or not. Is executing a couple of gay teens in Iran in a public square acceptable? The execution part? For being gay? Is that acceptable? Forget war. I'm talking something else entirely different here.
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you can go ahead and make a new thread about Iran's execution of gay people. This thread is about murdering a 7-years old boy by Taliban as a punishment to those who sides with Americans.
 
naisho said:
Straight to the point.


Generally speaking, I don't believe anyone in this thread thinks it's OK for a 7 year old kid to get killed, perhaps in extreme circumstances where a child grew up a murderer since early age and continues to kill.

But in warfare in other countries?
Who are you (not Beowulf) to judge what can and can't happen?


There is now an update, whether the article is written without bias or not we don't know. I would believe it is straight to the point.
In pure honesty it is condemnable yet at the same time, still does not make it equivalent to matters and affairs that needs to be handled by the USA.
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Warfare was never in the question here. It was the "execution" as if it were a court ordered execution story. Warfare came into question later and the story was clarified just recently. This is not about taking action. You're confusing finding such a thing unacceptable as to mean we must do something. No. It's about having an opinion on whether it's acceptable or not to execute a 7 year old kid for spying. Yet, people don't want to answer that directly saying, well, it's a "cultural thing." Or "not our problem." Or "it's their law."...etc...instead of saying, "That's certainly not acceptable." Instead people would rather carry on about cultural upbringings, laws, and such just to avoid answering the question. To have a court ordered execution for a 5, 6, 7, or 8 year old kid for spying, is, to me, unacceptable. They're kids!
 
Jiro said:
you can go ahead and make a new thread about Iran's execution of gay people. This thread is about murdering a 7-years old boy by Taliban as a punishment to those who sides with Americans.
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loool, that's ludicrously comical. First 10 posts or something, we were already discussing about warfare in this topic.

Their affairs only came later as part of their war cultures.
Whether anyone approves of how they acted in regards doesn't change a damn thing as they're still doing it in their culture, in their war.
 
That's when genocide is ok with me. I don't like Taliban at all and they must be killed to protect the human race.
 
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