STDs still on the rise, report says

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Perhaps your high school wasn't, but mine and my brother's was. It was provided as a part of the curriculum.
I went to four different public high schools on two different coasts, and none of them taught sex ed at that time.

Did your school teach you abstinence only, or sex ed without abstinence, or a combination?

Since your school taught sex ed, are you saying that schools in the past decade quit teaching sex ed?


As it should. That is why it is called morality and not legality.
Morality doesn't mean each person should do whatever he or she wants. Morality is a standard equally applied to everyone.

Legality sometimes includes morality but not necessarily. Some laws permit immoral activities.


And what should people do? What you want?
Want? I want people to live moral lives voluntarily. But I know that isn't going to happen any time soon. In fact, things will get a lot worse before they get better.

What do you want?


There is proof that it reduces the incidence of STDs and teen preganancy. And there is also proof that teaching abstinence only does not reduce the sexual activity among teens.
But you said that kids don't get the right kind of sex ed, so how do you have proof that it reduces STDs and pregnancy???


They are not undermining it. They are teaching fact. Parents are teaching morality. Two very different things.
How do you know parents aren't also teaching facts? Do you think teachers have exclusive rights to the "facts?" Parents can teach their children facts and morality.


I promote the teaching of facts so that one has the information necessary to deal with the emotional that will inevitably occur.

Exactly. But one is unable to do that when one is denied the facts.
That goes both ways.


Very true. There is only that which is internal, and that which is external. Unless you have located a void somewhere that no one else is aware of.
No. There is one trustworthy source but I'm not allowed to discuss it at AD.
 
I went to four different public high schools on two different coasts, and none of them taught sex ed at that time.

Then I guess your schools failed to provide you with a complete science curriculum, which included a health class.
Did your school teach you abstinence only, or sex ed without abstinence, or a combination?
I've already answered that. My school taught biological fact. Morality was left to the parents, as it should be.
Since your school taught sex ed, are you saying that schools in the past decade quit teaching sex ed?

Nope, that isn't what I am saying at all. I'm saying they have stopped providing comprehensive education in favor of morally based abstinence only.
Morality doesn't mean each person should do whatever he or she wants. Morality is a standard equally applied to everyone.

Nope. Morality is subjective. You cannot, as much as you would like to, decide morality for another.
Legality sometimes includes morality but not necessarily. Some laws permit immoral activities.

Nope. Laws prevent illegal activities. Whether or not it is amoral is a personal judgement.
Want? I want people to live moral lives voluntarily. But I know that isn't going to happen any time soon. In fact, things will get a lot worse before they get better.

No, you want people to live by your moral standards. Just because they don't doesn't mean that they are amoral. It just means that you are passing judgement on them based on your own standards you set for yourself.

What do you want?
I want people to have the skills and the knowledge necessary to make those decisions for themselves. I want that one small faction not decide what is moral for all, but only for themselves.


But you said that kids don't get the right kind of sex ed, so how do you have proof that it reduces STDs and pregnancy???

I have proof that abstinence only does not reduce the amount of sexual activity of teens. It only reduces the likelihood that they will use protection. When compared to kids that receive comprehensive sex ed, the only significant difference was the abstinence only kids did not use protection. They still had sex as teens, they still had as many partners. Kids that are sexually active and likely not to use protection are also more likely to become pregnant or contract and spread an STD.

How do you know parents aren't also teaching facts? Do you think teachers have exclusive rights to the "facts?" Parents can teach their children facts and morality.

Someone ain't teachin' the facts. Look around. See the rise in STDs and teen pregnancies? Parents can only teach what they know. Many parents are as ill informed regarding the facts of STDs as their children are.

That goes both ways.

How so exactly? If one is denied the facts, one should still be able to make a decision utilizing information unavailable to them? Only if they are a prophet.

No. There is one trustworthy source but I'm not allowed to discuss it at AD.

And that source would be internal. Unless you have a picture of that source that was taken in the last few days. Then it would be external.
 
And that source would be internal. Unless you have a picture of that source that was taken in the last few days. Then it would be external.

:rofl::rofl:

That was a freakin good one.
 
Are you saying that promiscuous sex doesn't spread sexually transmitted disease? Then why are they called "sexually transmitted" diseases? If the sexual activity wasn't happening, there wouldn't be any transmitting.

It not just about screwing around.. some people don t tell their partner they have std and pass it to others. When a person whom have STD should be responbile to tell his partner he or have STD instead of hiding it from them. Some did it out of reverage to pass it around that also possible too. :cool2:
 
Babyblue and Byrdie714 -
Uh, no. You don't get it to understand my POV. What I see is... teens have no self-control, no self-respect, and no self-displinse (sp). They just do whatever they want with a little or no maturity. Get it? Secondly, as for Byrdie, a movie is nothing do with my quotes. What I see today they (socality/people) just think virginity is worthless and old fashion. Same with old traditional marriages too. Well, this morning, I asked only two adults from some forums and here:
i think it is worthless. i feel sorry for them.. Dats all i say.
Thats so unrealistic and unhealthy.........imo, theyy are so stupid no offense..........

There you go. That's what I was talked about.

Jiro -
Well, for your info, outside and inside of Internets, I saw some liberals called themselves anti-virgins for pointless reasons while conservatives called people an anti-virgin for another pointless reasons... =/ but yeah I agreed with "stop creating terms for words" subject.

Okay, I'm done with this thread. :)
 
Interesting thread. I received a little bit of sex education in a public high school, but that was before interpreters were available, so I cannot vouch for those classes' accuracy, lol. But I notice there are differences in the distribution of STD's in "classes," (social/financial) with the higher classes getting STD's difference from those in the lower. (That is just personal observation, and if I am wrong, feel free to correct me.)
I have a friend in Venezuela who agrees with me, and she sent me a link I thought interesting.
Talking Dirty About Revolution: Sexual Health and Gender Inequality in Venezuela | venezuelanalysis.com
In the USA, I wouldn't be surprised if STD's rise as the quality and availability of a good education declines.
 
Babyblue and Byrdie714 -
Uh, no. You don't get it to understand my POV. What I see is... teens have no self-control, no self-respect, and no self-displinse (sp). They just do whatever they want with a little or no maturity. Get it? Secondly, as for Byrdie, a movie is nothing do with my quotes. What I see today they (socality/people) just think virginity is worthless and old fashion. Same with old traditional marriages too. Well, this morning, I asked only two adults from some forums and here:. :)

I understood your POV, loud and clear.....

I don't think you understand that teenagers will say anything to get their popularity/prestige respected by their peers. Teens are known to talk "smack" when in fact--they are still virgins. To marginalize teens as a group of people that have no self-control, self-respect is along the same lines as "All Deaf people are dumb." :roll: We both know that the blanket statement that you stated doesn't necessairly apply--just like my statement in regards to Deaf people.

Secondly I merely mentioned the movie as a tie-into your quotes. The movie has nothing to do with your quote directly but it does show how Hollywood has de-glamourize virginity thus the movie, "The 40 Year Old Virgin" was produced. Again--if you are wondering why virginity isn't held to the highest regard--look at Hollywood and the media that is on today. If that is what is being produced--then we better start educating the youth.

As for "old traditional marriage"--do you want me to barter with your mom and dad? Give your parents donkey for your hand-in-marriage? Because that is what is "old traditional marriage" consists. Also in an "old traditional marriage"--you, Reba, Jillio, Shel90--would be my property and I can do anything to you without disregard of how you feel.

I don't think you would like that. :)
 
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Oooh oooh! I have an idea for a compromise between the people who think sex ed will promote sex and the people who think abstinance doesn't work. Let's promote masturbation!

Who is with me?!?
 
Oooh oooh! I have an idea for a compromise between the people who think sex ed will promote sex and the people who think abstinance doesn't work. Let's promote masturbation!

Who is with me?!?

Doesn't masturbation cause blindness? :laugh2:
 
Oooh oooh! I have an idea for a compromise between the people who think sex ed will promote sex and the people who think abstinance doesn't work. Let's promote masturbation!

Who is with me?!?

As long as it is the promotion of safe maturbation.:lol:
 
Blindness and hairy palm hoaxes!
It's been proven that masturbation makes you light headed! In some rarer cases, it tantamounts to a ludicrous aftermath.
Either way now that's pretty bad, we don't want people passing out from masturbating do we?
 
Blindness and hairy palm hoaxes!
It's been proven that masturbation makes you light headed! In some rarer cases, it tantamounts to a ludicrous aftermath.
Either way now that's pretty bad, we don't want people passing out from masturbating do we?

Especially not if they are driving at the time!:shock:
 
Question for you all: How was sex ed. taught to you?

I figure I would answer my own question.

I was taught sex ed. A little differently than many people. My parents taught us the proper way to use condoms, spermicides, etc.

However--my parents went a step furthur--they showed us pictures of STDS and what it looks like when one contracts an STD. Of course--I was horrified seeing the pictures of it. <shudders> :shock:

Then we had a test on it and it included the pictures of STDS and we had to match it to the disease.

I been STD free......

Maybe we should be showing pictures of STDS to students????
 
Maybe we should be showing pictures of STDS to students????

Groan..
I graduated mainstream HS in '01, and I remember our health class studying STDs. Then, another week the PE class showed us all the pictures from a movie of how STDs looked like, if you had an approved parent consent slip. Those images scarred my mind forever. Everyone was like ugh! But we kept looking onwards like how pansies keep watching slash thrillers like flies glued to poop.

But, I don't have an STD so I suppose it helped?
 
I figure I would answer my own question.

I was taught sex ed. A little differently than many people. My parents taught us the proper way to use condoms, spermicides, etc.

However--my parents went a step furthur--they showed us pictures of STDS and what it looks like when one contracts an STD. Of course--I was horrified seeing the pictures of it. <shudders> :shock:

Then we had a test on it and it included the pictures of STDS and we had to match it to the disease.

I been STD free......

Maybe we should be showing pictures of STDS to students????

Well, it was part of my sex education, as well, and I attended a public high school. Certainly wouldn't hurt to show them. A dose of reality is what is called for when discussing the topic.
 
Groan..
I graduated mainstream HS in '01, and I remember our health class studying STDs. Then, another week the PE class showed us all the pictures from a movie of how STDs looked like, if you had an approved parent consent slip. Those images scarred my mind forever. Everyone was like ugh! But we kept looking onwards like how pansies keep watching slash thrillers like flies glued to poop.

But, I don't have an STD so I suppose it helped?

If it scared you enough to make you think about protecting yourself, then I would say, "Yes, it helpd." In my opinion, STDs are something every sexually active person should have a healthy fear of.
 
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