State of Union Address

Tousi said:
Ok, the process is in motion so why are we even talking about it?
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well - one is whining about Obama increasing federal government and federal power..... well see above. He simply inherited it, not increased it. :)
 
Same tired old drivel, different year!

"Regrdless", of my political persuasion!

-charles
 
Thnx Tousi!

If you meant my political views; I am a Libertarian

But I was also a Democrat and also a Republican at one time or another in my life. And what I learned - is that it doesn't matter which Pres is in; it seems they all have about the same type of plans/ideas for the upcoming year - and only at most 50%, if that most years - ever gets accomplished! ANd so on, and so forth.

-charles
 
chucky69 said:
But I was also a Democrat and also a Republican at one time or another in my life. And what I learned - is that it doesn't matter which Pres is in; it seems they all have about the same type of plans/ideas for the upcoming year - and only at most 50%, if that most years - ever gets accomplished! ANd so on, and so forth.
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You sound a bit like me here. I have voted both sides of the ticket. I await the results promised, as usual.
Politics can be generally summed up this way: Same shit, different asshole.
 
my friend's comment -
I've become very cynical about Obama-- but I was impressed with last night's speech. He finally took the do-nothing party to task and made them look appropriately silly for their antics.
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interesting

Poll: 83% of Speech Watchers Approve of Obama's State of the Union Proposals
A large majority of Americans who watched President Obama's State of the Union Address generally approve of the proposals he outlined in his speech, according to a CBS News Poll conducted online by Knowledge Networks immediately after the President's address.

Of the randomly selected 522 speech viewers questioned by CBS, 83 percent said they approved of the proposals the President made. Just 17 percent disapproved — typical of the high support a president generally receives among those who choose to watch the State of the Union. In January 2002 — when George W. Bush gave the State of the Union Address a year into his presidency — 85% of speech watchers approved.

Six in 10 of those asked said they thought Mr. Obama conveyed a clear plan for creating jobs, and seven in 10 said his plans for the economy will help ordinary Americans. Another seven in 10 said President Obama has the same priorities for the country as they have.

The same individuals were interviewed both before and after Wednesday's State of the Union, and after the speech, 70 percent said Mr. Obama shares their priorities for the country, up from 57 percent before the speech.

However, a sizable 57 percent said the President will not be able to accomplish all of the goals he set out in his speech. Most Democrats who viewed the speech (63 percent) said the man they elected would be able to accomplish all of his goals, but only 11 percent of Republicans and 33 percent of independent voters agreed.

Most Democrats and independents who watched said the president shares their priorities, while most Republicans did not.

In his speech President Obama said jobs would be "the number one focus in 2010," and here the president seems to have changed the minds of many speech watchers. After listening to the president, 59 percent of viewers said Mr. Obama has a clear plan for creating jobs, while 41 percent said he does not. Before the speech those numbers were almost exactly reversed.

Seventy-six percent of speech watchers generally approved of Mr. Obama's plans for dealing with the economy, up 21 percentage points from before the speech. President Obama laid out a plan for freezing spending for discretionary government programs for three years starting in 2011, and this seems to have resonated — 72 percent of those questioned approved of the plan.

Viewers were also more optimistic about the impact of President Obama's economic plans after watching the speech. Seventy-one percent said his economic plans will help ordinary Americans – up from 55 percent before the speech — and 56 percent were left thinking his plans will reduce the budget deficit in the long run, up from 41 percent.

On health care, President Obama reiterated the need for reform, and most speech watchers (67 percent) approved of the president's plan for dealing with the issue. Prior to his speech, 54 percent said they supported his plans.

The Commander in Chief also garnered approval for his handling to the war in Afghanistan with his speech Wednesday, with those supporting his strategy increasing from 58 percent before the address to 74 percent afterward.

Perhaps predictably, Americans who watched the speech were more Democratic than the nation as a whole. Historically, a President's supporters are more likely than his opponents to watch State of the Union addresses. Forty-four percent of speech viewers in this poll described themselves as Democrats while only 21 percent said they were Republican.
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Did anyone see Justice Alito's reaction?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-hb-hQXi9s]YouTube - Justice Alito: State of the Union "Close-Up"[/ame]

Justice Alito saying, "not true" when President Obama criticized the recent Supreme Court decision permitting corporations to buy unlimited ads to influence elections.
 
Banjo said:
Did anyone see Justice Alito's reaction?

YouTube - Justice Alito: State of the Union "Close-Up"

Justice Alito saying, "not true" when President Obama criticized the recent Supreme Court decision permitting corporations to buy unlimited ads to influence elections.
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Maybe it's time to really understand why Alito said no. As Professor Bradley A. Smith observes in the National Review Online:

Tonight the president engaged in demogoguery of the worst kind, when he claimed that last week's Supreme Court decision in Citizens United v. FEC, "open[ed] the floodgates for special interests - including foreign corporations - to spend without limit in our elections. Well I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities."

The president's statement is false.

The Court held that 2 U.S.C. Section 441a, which prohibits all corporate political spending, is unconstitutional. Foreign nationals, specifically defined to include foreign corporations, are prohibiting from making "a contribution or donation of money or ather thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State or local election" under 2 U.S.C. Section 441e, which was not at issue in the case. Foreign corporations are also prohibited, under 2 U.S.C. 441e, from making any contribution or donation to any committee of any political party, and they prohibited from making any "expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication... ."
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President Wrong on Citizens United Case - Bradley A. Smith - The Corner on National Review Online

In short, this ruling already prohibits foreign companies from influencing American campaigns. It legally prohibits any foreign involvement in elections. This is quite specific on the prohibition of any foreign national from directly or indirectly contributing to a candidate or party. This includes paying for a broadcast, cable or satellite communication known as 'electioneering communications', which is illegal. Already the FEC prohibits any foreign nationals from controlling whether directly or indirectly in the decision-making process of any corporation, labor union, or political committee in their election-related activities. So, Alito is correct. Obama, as usual, is wrong.
 
kokonut said:
Number of viewers that watched the SOTU down from last year.

Obama's State of the Union slips from last year -- The Live Feed | THR

Interesting...
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Yet as latter-day State of the Union telecasts go, last night scored higher than average, and was up from Bill Clinton's first official Address (45.8 million) in 1994. ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, TEL, UNI, CNN, BET, CNBC, FOXNC and MSNBC carried last night's telecast. The speech also improved upon the president's last primetime speech in December on Afghanistan.
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television viewers down
internet viewers up
 
Obama’s State of the Union Address - We find the president strained the facts at times. The Republican response had its problems, too.

Summary - President Obama peppered his State of the Union address to Congress and the nation with facts, which were mostly right but sometimes cherry-picked, strained or otherwise misleading.
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Jiro said:
Every President lied. and you're whining about it? :dunno:
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Well, not only does he lie, but he throws a baseball poorly, and he bows too low. I think those 3 things add up to impeachment.
Just saying.
 
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