South Carolina policeman charged with murder

Reba said:
No one said that the car was from a dealership. It could be a private sale.
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He would still need plates - and you cannot get plates without proof of insurance, and the prior owner would have taken his plates off.
 
Steinhauer said:
He would still need plates - and you cannot get plates without proof of insurance, and the prior owner would have taken his plates off.
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No, you don't necessarily need plates. We have bought and sold several vehicles in SC, so I know what's required.

Scott might have "been in the process" of buying the car, meaning he and the owner had an agreement but they were waiting until Monday to go to the bank or whatever else to complete the deal (this happened on a Saturday, don't forget).

He might have paid for the car but not yet done the paper work, and the seller trusted him so let him drive with the plates until Monday.

In SC, it's common to sell the car, seller keeps plates, and buyer drives without plates until weekday but has car title in his possession as proof. That's fine.

It's only dealerships that are required to provide temporary plates. Private sales don't use them.

I don't know Scott's specific situation. I'm just explaining how it's done.
 
I don't think the cop should be on the street as well. But, no matter what the reason, running away from a cop who has detained a person is not going to turn out well. I understand the resistance in the Black Community, however, that resistance would be better served if that person stayed in front of the police car dash cam.

A bad cop is just waiting for a person to make a mistake. If a person doesn't give that cop a mistake, there is not much the cop can do. That is why they are resisting the use of body cams. The cops want a grey area so they can handle things with their own judgement. And, to be fair, the law gives them that power.

The warrant could have been an issue for Mr. Scott, but, I believe, for Mr. Slager, the issue was that Mr. Scott tried to leave the scene.
You have a minor traffic stop and the guy flees. What does the cop do? The guy could have been in the middle of committing a crime. And, the cop didn't pull the guy over for no reason, the broken tail light is plainly visible.

What is the duty of an officer when a detained person tries to flee the scene? I'm trying to find the law for it.
 
Steinhauer said:
Well, I know for a fact that a dealer will not let you drive off the lot without proof of insurance. He also does not have a temporary plate on his vehicle.

He didn't have insurance. He didn't bother to get insurance. He wasn't in the middle of buying that car. And .... the Officer knew all this when Walter told him.
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But was he in the process of buying from a dealer or an individual?
 
Reba said:
No, you don't necessarily need plates. We have bought and sold several vehicles in SC, so I know what's required.

Scott might have "been in the process" of buying the car, meaning he and the owner had an agreement but they were waiting until Monday to go to the bank or whatever else to complete the deal (this happened on a Saturday, don't forget).

He might have paid for the car but not yet done the paper work, and the seller trusted him so let him drive with the plates until Monday.

In SC, it's common to sell the car, seller keeps plates, and buyer drives without plates until weekday but has car title in his possession as proof. That's fine.

It's only dealerships that are required to provide temporary plates. Private sales don't use them.

I don't know Scott's specific situation. I'm just explaining how it's done.
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:topic:
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael...shooting-video-deeply-troubling-says-analyst/

Ron Hosko is the former head of the FBI's criminal investigative division. He now runs a legal defense fund for police officers. He's watched the video of Walter Scott being fatally shot by Michael Slager from beginning to end and says he's never seen anything like it.

"Arguably what he should be doing, before pulling out his gun is chasing him, right? Foot pursuit. Happens every day," Hosko said. "If he's unarmed, and presumably he is from the background, chase him. Cops chase every day. Call for backup. Have others come help chase."

But did Scott pose a threat based on what is on the video?

"In this piece of video, I don't see the threat," Hosko continued. "I see a man trying to flee the scene, running away. And if that's the case, to shoot this victim in the back multiple times while he is merely trying to flee from a non-violent crime, is deeply troubling and I think is likely to result in the conviction of the police officer."
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Back to the victim.

Scott's funeral will be tomorrow (Saturday) morning at a church only 1.5 miles from the entrance to my subdivision. The family has requested that Al Sharpton NOT show up.
 
Reba said:
I'm sorry. I thought it was relevant to the motive for Scott's running from the car.
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We really do not know why he ran from the car , the guy with him might know . There could be a lot reasons why and one could of been he was concerned about what was going to happen being stopped by a White cop.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
We really do not know why he ran from the car , the guy with him might know . There could be a lot reasons why and one could of been he was concerned about what was going to happen being stopped by a White cop.
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That's why I was trying to show that the car purchase issue was not a big deal or abnormal in SC. The only way it could be a serious motive to run would be if the car was stolen, and there's no indication of that.

There had to be more reason than just being stopped by a white cop in daylight in a very public place with a passenger witness present to cause him to run, leaving his car, passenger, and DL behind, especially since he must have known he probably couldn't outrun the younger man.
 
Reba said:
That's why I was trying to show that the car purchase issue was not a big deal or abnormal in SC. The only way it could be a serious motive to run would be if the car was stolen, and there's no indication of that.

There had to be more reason than just being stopped by a white cop in daylight in a very public place with a passenger witness present to cause him to run, leaving his car, passenger, and DL behind, especially since he must have known he probably couldn't outrun the younger man.
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The cop stopped him b/c his taillight was broken then the car became questionable . , I said being stopped by a White cop could be 'one' of the reasons the Black guy ran , we really do not know and will never know what he thinking when he ran off , the cop killed him and I personally feel there was no needs to had done that , like you said the cop had his DL and knew his name and address .
 
Walter Scott Had Bench Warrant for His Arrest, Court Documents Show

Walter Scott owed more than $18,000 in child-support payments and had a bench warrant for his arrest when he was fatally shot by a South Carolina police officer, according to court documents obtained by NBC News.

Scott's parents have suggested they believe their son fled from the officer, Michael Slager, because he owed back child-support payments and did not want to be arrested again.

Scott owed a total of $18,104 in back child-support, the documents obtained by NBC News show. His last payment was on July 20, 2012, according to the paperwork. The bench warrant for his arrest had been active since a January 16, 2013, court hearing. At that time, Scott had owed $7,836 — but the amount had increased to more than $18,000 at the time of his death.

The information in the documents appeared to contradict an Associated Press report early Friday. Citing court records, the AP had reported that no bench warrant had been issued for Scott. It also reported that he owed nearly $7,500 in child-support payments.

In an interview with TODAY, Scott's parents explained why they believe their son bolted from Slager before the deadly shooting.

"I believe he didn't want to go to jail again," Walter Scott Sr. told TODAY. "He just ran away."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/wa...over-child-support-court-records-show-n339151
 
rockin'robin said:
Walter Scott owed more than $18,000 in child-support payments and had a bench warrant for his arrest when he was fatally shot by a South Carolina police officer, according to court documents obtained by NBC News.

Scott's parents have suggested they believe their son fled from the officer, Michael Slager, because he owed back child-support payments and did not want to be arrested again.

Scott owed a total of $18,104 in back child-support, the documents obtained by NBC News show. His last payment was on July 20, 2012, according to the paperwork. The bench warrant for his arrest had been active since a January 16, 2013, court hearing. At that time, Scott had owed $7,836 — but the amount had increased to more than $18,000 at the time of his death.

The information in the documents appeared to contradict an Associated Press report early Friday. Citing court records, the AP had reported that no bench warrant had been issued for Scott. It also reported that he owed nearly $7,500 in child-support payments.

In an interview with TODAY, Scott's parents explained why they believe their son bolted from Slager before the deadly shooting.

"I believe he didn't want to go to jail again," Walter Scott Sr. told TODAY. "He just ran away."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/wa...over-child-support-court-records-show-n339151
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Yep!...just as I thought.
 
Reba said:
No, you don't necessarily need plates. We have bought and sold several vehicles in SC, so I know what's required.

Scott might have "been in the process" of buying the car, meaning he and the owner had an agreement but they were waiting until Monday to go to the bank or whatever else to complete the deal (this happened on a Saturday, don't forget).

He might have paid for the car but not yet done the paper work, and the seller trusted him so let him drive with the plates until Monday.

In SC, it's common to sell the car, seller keeps plates, and buyer drives without plates until weekday but has car title in his possession as proof. That's fine.

It's only dealerships that are required to provide temporary plates. Private sales don't use them.

I don't know Scott's specific situation. I'm just explaining how it's done.
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It is required by law that the seller keeps the plates, and it is required by law that the vehicle have insurance before the buyer drives it.

The car he was driving had plates, not temporary plates (yes, I know only dealers can issue those - I used to sell Toyota ) and he claims he didn't yet have proof of insurance as "he was in the process of buying the car".

Most insurance companies give you a 3-5 day grace period to transfer your policy over to the car you buy. ALL will fax the binder, and/or email you a copy of a temporary card the literal second you announce you are buying a new car and give them the info of that car.

If he was just driving it for the weekend, then the owner of the car should have left him an insurance card - to prove the vehicle was insured.

Walter was lying to the police.
 
A few minutes ago I was chatting outside with our neighbors across the street, who are fairly new. I was shocked to find out that they are not only members of the same church as the Scott family, they were relatives. She was at the Scott family home today. She told us how it was upsetting to the whole family but they are strong spiritually and have no ill will towards anyone. She said that they don't want Al Sharpton involved, and they feel sad for Slager's mom and wife, too. They're a very sweet family.

She told us that they don't see this as a racial issue, and they don't want anything to do with angry protests or violence.

She's leaving for the funeral early in the morning. It's just down the street from us but because of the crowds she'll have to start out way in advance.

The press announced that live coverage will begin at 6:30 a.m.! Yikes! The funeral doesn't even begin until 11 a.m.

I hope things go smoothly at the services tomorrow.
 
Both of them make mistakes but for Officer Slagger, it is very serious and uncalled for to kill a human being no matter if it is racial profiling or not.

His family don't want any more trouble from the media. Enough is enough. I could understand their point of views. :(
 
rockin'robin said:
Warrant for child support...broken tail light...no registration...no insurance....wheeee!...he knew he was bound for the jail house....So, he's up and away....Catch me if you can...feel most likely he avoided all Cops until he was finally pulled over for the broken tail light. Then he knew his goose was cooked....And this 50 year old Cop knew he couldn't catch him...so he shot him.....And add another charge of eluding and fleeing a police officer...(even tho' he was dead)....

Shooting the guy in the legs would have been a better option, wouldn't it?...But someone said..."Cops are trained to shoot to kill"....:hmm:
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Honestly, if I were him (the cop), I would be like "Oh sh*t, I have to chase him". That's part of cop's job. But HE SHOT the runaway instead because HE DIDN'T want to chase him. LAZY AH PIG! That's all I can say. That's why he is charged of murder.
 
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