Shooting at WI Sikh temple leaves 7 dead.

More has come out. His neighbor and former landlord were interviewed. He got involved in a white supremacy group, according to his friend.

However, both of them seemed very surprised that he did this - they never thought he would lash out violently.

His friend even asked him why he was involved in the white supremacy stuff and Page would never answer him.

'white supremacy' pretty much explain why a person join the group. I find it very strange that people are so shocked to learn person they know committed a violent crime. It liked the shooter was giving out clues with his 9ll tattoo, making Anti Semitic remarks and joining the white supremacy, the guy was building up a lot of hate and was a walking time bomb.
 
I think you missed my point. Any individual that decides to kill innocent people is deranged, regardless of their political affiliation.

Then why are you always the first with the political leaning reports? Nobody except you has tried to spotlight Holmes as a left wing, Liberalist, Obama-supporting nutcase. You also brought up the MSM's "biased" report that they consider Page to be a former member of a "right wing" white supremacist punk band. Nobody else feels the need to mention these things. Only you, and you follow it up with the comment above. If it does not matter to you, why do you continually bring it up? I condemn this guy just as much as Holmes. Your blatant defense of right wing as a bastion of the good, while mocking the left as the source of all things bad, never ends. I don't care about his political leaning. I care that he is accused of murdering several people.
 
http://news.yahoo.com/neighbors-temple-shooters-ex-said-had-dropped-off-192016334--abc-news-topstories.html

With the link to an article about Wade, the ex-stepmother of Wade wonders what the effects of his military service has on him.

The military is what causes people to be deranged after so many years of service. Think about the Ft. Hood incident among many others!
 
http://news.yahoo.com/neighbors-temple-shooters-ex-said-had-dropped-off-192016334--abc-news-topstories.html

With the link to an article about Wade, the ex-stepmother of Wade wonders what the effects of his military service has on him.

The military is what causes people to be deranged after so many years of service. Think about the Ft. Hood incident among many others!

This is not a totally accurate statement! I and many others like me served our country in the military and we haven't done anything like this!
 
This is not a totally accurate statement! I and many others like me served our country in the military and we haven't done anything like this!

Yup, I agree with you.

My father served in Marines for 20 years and he hasn't anything like this.
 
This is not a totally accurate statement! I and many others like me served our country in the military and we haven't done anything like this!

I didn't use quantifiers so I wasn't saying ALL people would be deranged after serving one's country in the military.
 
With the link to an article about Wade, the ex-stepmother of Wade wonders what the effects of his military service has on him.
Page served only six years, and not in combat.

His stepmother didn't say anything definitive about military influence on him.

Probably his alcohol abuse was part of the problem.

The military is what causes people to be deranged after so many years of service. Think about the Ft. Hood incident among many others!
After six years, non-combat? That's ridiculous.

Some war experiences can have a negative impact on people. To say that the military causes people to be deranged is way off course.

The military was NOT the cause of the Ft. Hood attack. We can't get into political debate here but if you do a little research on your own you'll find out what his influences were.

My Hubby and I, each with over 20 years of military service, aren't deranged "after so many years of service."
 
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With the link to an article about Wade, the ex-stepmother of Wade wonders what the effects of his military service has on him.
Page served only six years, and not in combat.

His stepmother didn't say anything definitive about military influence on him.

Probably his alcohol abuse was part of the problem.


After six years, non-combat? That's ridiculous.

Some war experiences can have a negative impact on people. To say that the military causes people to be deranged is way off course.

The military was NOT the cause of the Ft. Hood attack. We can't get into political debate here but if you do a little research on your own you'll find out what his influences were.

My Hubby and I, each with over 20 years of military service, aren't deranged "after so many years of service."

I am merely stating that many of those who served in the military actively are affected mentally, emotionally, and psychologically by the violence they have witnessed on the battlefield.
 
With the link to an article about Wade, the ex-stepmother of Wade wonders what the effects of his military service has on him.

I am merely stating that many of those who served in the military actively are affected mentally, emotionally, and psychologically by the violence they have witnessed on the battlefield.
That's true so that's why they get help.
 
Wade Michael Page is being called a "racial collectivist". I actually had to look that up, as I have never seen that term used before. I have also never heard of "The Turner Diaries" which, apparently, is a racist book that a lot of "racial collectivists" read.

Now that it has been made crystal clear, with no speculation involved, that Page was a racist, it could only follow that this attack on a Sikh Temple was racially motivated (I know, a no brainer there). But really, nobody knows for sure, even if it is glaringly obvious.

Now, I did some digging into what the "Turner Diaries" was, and came across this segment in an interview:

Neo-Nazis are hoping attacks like Buford O. Furrow’s push the nation toward stricter gun control, say conservative students of right-wing hate movements, because they believe such restrictions will touch off anti-government warfare.

“They really believe ‘The Turner Diaries’ is the road map to their success,” says J.D. Cash, an Oklahoma reporter with long associations among right-wing activists who broke stories about Timothy McVeigh’s links to white-supremacist groups like Christian Identity.

“The Turner Diaries,” an apocalyptic novel embraced by McVeigh and other Christian extremists, portrays a “patriot” who foments a right-wing backlash against the government’s effort to crack down on guns by setting off bombs.

That interview was with a guy named J.D Cash and the interview was done by Jeff Stein, that was 13 years ago.

The link below is an amazon link to the book (which I have never read, and up until today, never even knew existed):

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/The-Turner-Diaries-A-Novel/dp/1569800863]Amazon.com: The Turner Diaries: A Novel (9781569800867): Andrew MacDonald, Dr. William Pierce: Books[/ame]



This is dangerous stuff. I thought that perhaps this might just shed some light on the motivation behind this shooting. The theory behind this, is if more mass shootings occur, there will be a push to ban guns, which could erupt into a Civil War.
 
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With the link to an article about Wade, the ex-stepmother of Wade wonders what the effects of his military service has on him.
She simply "wonders" about it. She has nothing concrete to state about it.

I am merely stating that many of those who served in the military actively are affected mentally, emotionally, and psychologically by the violence they have witnessed on the battlefield.
Some, yes. I personally have known former long-time combat POW's who didn't do anything crazy when they came home. Also, in your original post, you used the word "deranged." The temple shooter didn't serve in combat, so that statement has nothing to do with this thread.

I think I'd look more at the influence of the white supremacist buddies of his. He was with them longer than he was in the Army.
 
I am merely stating that many of those who served in the military actively are affected mentally, emotionally, and psychologically by the violence they have witnessed on the battlefield.

based on what? Apocalypse Now? Full Metal Jacket?
 
Domestic terrorism:

December 6, 2002
Section 802 of the USA PATRIOT Act (Pub. L. No. 107-52) expanded the definition of terrorism to cover ""domestic,"" as opposed to international, terrorism. A person engages in domestic terrorism if they do an act "dangerous to human life" that is a violation of the criminal laws of a state or the United States, if the act appears to be intended to: (i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping. Additionally, the acts have to occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States and if they do not, may be regarded as international terrorism.

How the USA PATRIOT Act redefines "Domestic Terrorism" | American Civil Liberties Union
 
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