San Francisco Circumcision Ban

It's somewhat common for an infant to acquire an infection after being cut. You see, the wounds itself can get infected by the urine and fecal matters.

this was in 1941 and I think the Rabbi was not very clean! My mother said the infection was awful ! mom had only one boy and he was her first child! This is a
big deal in a Jewish family! Mom had miscarriage and it is too bad is was not my ex brother as he is an asshole!
 
Right. I think it is safe to say that we both agree that all surgical procedures carry risk. :ty:

So is removing a wart surgically but the medical risk is extremely low. Risk is relative based on what we're talking about. Simply saying "risk" doesn't define exactly what those risks are. It has been shown in studies that surgical risk from circumcision is low. I think the greater risk has always been anesthesia for babies when it comes to minor surgical procedures.
 
WTF do you mean by extra skin, it was not put but there by mistake!! It was for health reason and there is no need to be done in 2011! A baby boy is still Jewish if he doesn't have it done!! There was no way I would had put a baby boy through unnecessary pain!! I dated guys the did not have a circumcision and there was no extra skin on their penis , the foreskin is a part of their penis!

It's a double-layered fold of skin.
 
When God created man, He provided him with a piece of skin that could be safely removed in the future. God planned for circumcision way in advance of the time that He would require it as a sign of faith in God's covenant with Abraham and his descendants.
 
When God created man, He provided him with a piece of skin that could be safely removed in the future. God planned for circumcision way in advance of the time that He would require it as a sign of faith in God's covenant with Abraham and his descendants.

Why did God give him a piece of skin in the first place, only to have it removed later? :hmm:
 
When God created man, He provided him with a piece of skin that could be safely removed in the future. God planned for circumcision way in advance of the time that He would require it as a sign of faith in God's covenant with Abraham and his descendants.

I'm sorry and no disrespect but...

Somehow.... this sounds wrong... with a side of dirty.
 
Maybe they don't remember, but they do experience pain during the procedure.
Not true, my grandson had it removed and he did not feel it or feel pain from it. His doctor numbed his skin and cut it. He was good whole time.
 
Why did God give him a piece of skin in the first place, only to have it removed later? :hmm:
As I explained in my previous post, He gave it to them so it would be available for circumcision. He provided a piece of skin that could be safely removed to make that act of faith by His covenant people possible.
 
As I explained in my previous post, He gave it to them so it would be available for circumcision. He provided a piece of skin that could be safely removed to make that act of faith by His covenant people possible.

"Extra skin" for the offering.
 
I can't believe this has been a 8 page debate over a part of a penis.

All I'm going to say is I see nothing wrong with the procedure. It IS the parents rights.

It should also be the parent's responsibly to choose their doctor wisely.

I do not agree with banning something that holds back our choice to choose (where in some countries you don't have the freedom to choose, and I'm just speaking in general, anything)

So if I was a guy, I think I'd rather that be done as a baby than go through it as an adult.

I've known some guys that have been circumcised and some that haven't, neither are complaining.
 
whoopsie! :lol:

I posted a reply after page 1. I didn't realize there were 8 pages following !!
 
When God created man, He provided him with a piece of skin that could be safely removed in the future. God planned for circumcision way in advance of the time that He would require it as a sign of faith in God's covenant with Abraham and his descendants.

Care to explain why it has 20,000 nerve endings? Why would it have that many nerve endings if it was only meant to be taken away?
 
Care to explain why it has 20,000 nerve endings? Why would it have that many nerve endings if it was only meant to be taken away?

To reduce the need for sex/masturbation?

To me, that kinda makes sense.....
 
Care to explain why it has 20,000 nerve endings? Why would it have that many nerve endings if it was only meant to be taken away?
It's a lot of whys' here. Is God forcing circumcised nudist sunbathers to hide their dick from getting sunburnt? A clever way to force Adam to dress?
 
Those stories from the five books of Moses (the law of Moses) are in the Old Testament, and they are the Jewish teachings, not the Christian teachings. In the New Testament, the Jewish beliefs were taken away when Christ came. Yes, Christ was baptized under the Jewish faith when he was a baby. He wasn't in the position at the time. Later, He was baptized by his cousin. Christ's teachings were often in conflict with the law of Moses. In the days of the Apostles in the New Testament, there are many verses that mention circumcision, but none of them say it has to be done. The Apostles determined that it is not required by the Lord.

Circumcision had been around a long time before Moses, and even before Abraham. It is first recorded in Ancient Egypt but had become fairly wide spread. However, the Greeks didn't approve of it, so it was highly discouraged after the conquests of Alexander the Great. Ancient Greeks didn't consider a man truly naked unless his prepuce was retracted.

In US, the highest rate of circumcision rose to 91% in the late 1970s. These days it has declined to about 50%. It is still declining, and so it is unnecessary to produce the new local law in the first place.
 
In US, the highest rate of circumcision rose to 91% in the late 1970s. These days it has declined to about 50%. It is still declining, and so it is unnecessary to produce the new local law in the first place.

From what I know, it is now below 40% in the USA and below 20% in Canada.
 
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