Risk of Bacterial Meningitis and Death in Children with Cochlear Implants

Cloggy said:
Ah, Jillio... I know, it's not easy.. You have your rules, the rest has different rules....
Anyway, perhaps it was "physiological " wouldn't that make sense?
I've seen spelling-mistakes before... e.g.:
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Hey I did say somewhere on here that spelling wasn't my best topic. LOL no I meant phsycological (?) still not sure if that's completely correct. I'm sure that but whatever, you know those people who like to give IQ tests (worthless in most cases) and try to get into your brain and tell you what you're really thinking? My expericence with them has been quite crappy, even the one we saw at Mayo Clinic. Seems they like to 'take those words and twist them' . Oh well to each their own and I don't have to consult them unless necessary. :)
 
Cloggy said:
Ha ha ha ha, "Entendre"... it just gets better and better.. Jillio, please now, get serious. it's too much fun. You are on a roll, but please stop...

BTW, seriously, ... instead of "?" you could have asked "did you intent to type "psychological" or "physiological ?"....


You're right... all your jokes, funny as they are, get us further and further away from the topic....
...let's get back to the topic..

Bacterial meningitis...
So,
People who become deaf due to BM have a higher risk of getting it, and are more aware of that danger,
Parents of children with CI are also more alert, because there is a higher risk,
BM is very well treatable with medicine,
BM kills people that are too late with treatment since they are not aware it is BM,
When you are deaf, when you have a CI, the chance of dying from BM is a lot smaller compared to the rest of the world....

What's the problem again...???
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How exactly is the risk of dying from bacterial meningitis (BM is bowel movement) lessened when you are deaf with a CI?
 
jag said:
Hey I did say somewhere on here that spelling wasn't my best topic. LOL no I meant phsycological (?) still not sure if that's completely correct. I'm sure that but whatever, you know those people who like to give IQ tests (worthless in most cases) and try to get into your brain and tell you what you're really thinking? My expericence with them has been quite crappy, even the one we saw at Mayo Clinic. Seems they like to 'take those words and twist them' . Oh well to each their own and I don't have to consult them unless necessary. :)
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They don't twist them, they get to the underlying emotion and cognition of the words.

So.....I guess cloggy must have misunderstood your intent when he answered for you.
 
IslandGal said:
Got this from a friend......

New Information on Meningitis Risk from FDA (October 10, 2007) following the deaths of two deaf kids.

Medical Device Safety: Advice for Patients with Cochlear Implants: New Information on Meningitis Risk
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Very interesting, This does sadness me to know that these doctors still going ahead with the CI surgery without knowing if neither of them had been fully vaccinated....

The survey showed that 29% of the parents/guardians of patients under 2 years of age were uncertain if their child had both levels of vaccination to prevent meningitis.
In patients greater than 2 years of age, vaccination status was unknown for 43% of the patients while 12% of the patients were shown not to be properly vaccinated.
This is in spite of repeated information bulletins about the importance of vaccination to reduce the risk of this life-threatening infection.
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This is not good :(
 
jillio said:
Very interesting! Nearly half of surveyed parents of children with CI were not aware of whether their children had been fully vaccinated or not! So muchfor parents of children with CIs being more aware of the risk!:dunno2:
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I don't think that those parents are any more neglectful than any other parents at large. Parents are forgetful about children's vaccinations especially when they are well. Here in Australia every parent get a one off payment from the government for each child for completing their schedule of vaccinations because forgetfulness is such a big problem.

It shows that the clinics basically need to follow up on the parents' getting repeat vaccinations for their children. There is a big misconception out there (and I used to believe it) that you are protected for life with one shot. I did not know until I did research on vaccinations for my daughter that some vaccinations are only good for a few years. Adults too should be keeping up with their booster shots.
 
R2D2 said:
It shows that the clinics basically need to follow up on the parents' getting repeat vaccinations for their children. There is a big misconception out there (and I used to believe it) that you are protected for life with one shot. I did not know until I did research on vaccinations for my daughter that some vaccinations are only good for a few years. Adults too should be keeping up with their booster shots.
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I agreed, because I did not know I was suppose to take a tetanus vaccine until my husband rushed me to the emergency room after I arrived home from a rib cook off show, both of my feet were infected with redness rashes, swelling and blisters that spread all over and I was feeling quite ill...When the two doctors on duty took one horrified look at both of my feet and was asking me a bunch of questions as how I got my feet looking this bad and they thought I stepped on a rusty nail or something, but I told them I work outdoors at my dad's company which is a rib festville, and explained what I do there etc...I didn't realize that tetanus can be contracted in many ways such as any puncture wound, especially one that is deep, animal scratches, bites, other wounds contaminated by both human and animal feces, saliva and etc....The doctor asked me when was the last time I had taken a tetanus vaccine, and I honestly didn't even remember if I taken one or not when I was younger but I had to take another one since I didn't take a tetanus vaccine during my adulthood...

Here's picture similar to what both of my feet looks like....Sorry for the off-topic here...
 

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Angel said:
I agreed, because I did not know I was suppose to take a tetanus vaccine until my husband rushed me to the emergency room after I arrived home from a rib cook off show, both of my feet were infected with redness rashes, swelling and blisters that spread all over and I was feeling quite ill...When the two doctors on duty took one horrified look at both of my feet and was asking me a bunch of questions as how I got my feet looking this bad and they thought I stepped on a rusty nail or something, but I told them I work outdoors at my dad's company which is a rib festville, and explained what I do there etc...I didn't realize that tetanus can be contracted in many ways such as any puncture wound, especially one that is deep, animal scratches, bites, other wounds contaminated by both human and animal feces, saliva and etc....The doctor asked me when was the last time I had taken a tetanus vaccine, and I honestly didn't even remember if I taken one or not when I was younger but I had to take another one since I didn't take a tetanus vaccine during my adulthood...

Here's picture similar to what both of my feet looks like....Sorry for the off-topic here...
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Ouch! You poor thing! That looks really painful. Is it healed up now or do you still have problems with your feet? It's amazing that it just happened after the cook off and you didn't know where it had come from. I think this is a reminder for all of us to check that our vaccines are up to date.

After I read a bit more about the two children that died recently, I have to say I'm surprised that they were not vaccinated. Apparently, both of them had the CIs with the positioners, which haven't been manufacturered since about 2002 due to the link with meninigitis. I know people forget over the years but you would think that parents with that particular model of CI would be more alert than average. It is disappointing.
 
R2D2 said:
I don't think that those parents are any more neglectful than any other parents at large. Parents are forgetful about children's vaccinations especially when they are well. Here in Australia every parent get a one off payment from the government for each child for completing their schedule of vaccinations because forgetfulness is such a big problem.

It shows that the clinics basically need to follow up on the parents' getting repeat vaccinations for their children. There is a big misconception out there (and I used to believe it) that you are protected for life with one shot. I did not know until I did research on vaccinations for my daughter that some vaccinations are only good for a few years. Adults too should be keeping up with their booster shots.
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Yes, it's same here in Germany as well. children's vaccinations are obligation until they are 18 years old. We will get big problem with government if we neglect or forget our control children's vaccination. The child physician gave us the yellow book of children's vaccation... It tell us when the children should received... Before my both sons' first school day, we received the letter from health department telling us to bring yellow book to control children's vaccination.

wow, Angel... I remember you mention about your feet problem in your thread last year... It look painful...

Yes, we received tetanus vaccine once in every 10 years, my family also have as well. We need to control our pass when our vaccination need to be done.

My both boys received vaccine to protect hepatitis B vaccine every 2 years.
 
R2D2 said:
Ouch! You poor thing! That looks really painful. Is it healed up now or do you still have problems with your feet? It's amazing that it just happened after the cook off and you didn't know where it had come from. I think this is a reminder for all of us to check that our vaccines are up to date.
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No, it happened during the cook offs, I was gone for 4 weeks before I arrived home, we travel from state to state to do a rib cook off show...Yes it healed for about two weeks or so....Yes I still have problems with my feet from time to time after standing on it for a long period of times, but I haven't had anymore infections since I last taken the vaccine...:)

After I read a bit more about the two children that died recently, I have to say I'm surprised that they were not vaccinated. Apparently, both of them had the CIs with the positioners, which haven't been manufacturered since about 2002 due to the link with meninigitis. I know people forget over the years but you would think that parents with that particular model of CI would be more alert than average. It is disappointing.
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I agree, it is... :(
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes, it's same here in Germany as well. children's vaccinations are obligation until they are 18 years old. We will get big problem with government if we neglect or forget our control children's vaccination. The child physician gave us the yellow book of children's vaccation... It tell us when the children should received... Before my both sons' first school day, we received the letter from health department telling us to bring yellow book to control children's vaccination.

wow, Angel... I remember you mention about your feet problem in your thread last year... It look painful...

Yes, we received tetanus vaccine once in every 10 years, my family also have as well. We need to control our pass when our vaccination need to be done.

My both boys received vaccine to protect hepatitis B vaccine every 2 years.
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Yes you're correct, that what the doctor told me too every 10 years....I wish I knew this before, but I'm glad I do now...
 
jillio said:
How exactly is the risk of dying from bacterial meningitis (BM is bowel movement) lessened when you are deaf with a CI?
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Awareness...
And, I'm sorry that when talking about bacterial meningitis, you were still confused and thought "BM" was "bowel movement".. but you did manage to figure it out.. Hurray!

Like they say in Holland....
"Waar het hoofd vol van is, loopt de mond van over."
 
Cloggy said:
Awareness...
And, I'm sorry that when talking about bacterial meningitis, you were still confused and thought "BM" was "bowel movement".. but you did manage to figure it out.. Hurray!

Like they say in Holland....
"Waar het hoofd vol van is, loopt de mond van over."
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No, cloggy, I was correcting you. You used the abbreviation "BM" which is the accepted abbreviation for "bowel movement", not bnacterial meningitis.

Did you see the article that said that over 50% of parents of children with CI are unaware whether their children had completed the vaccine? So much for awareness. The child is at increased risk, the parents are unaware, and the parents are not certain whether their child has been protected fromthe risk. That all translates to increased, not reduced, risk.
 
What I think it translates to is some clinics not doing a thorough enough job. If every implant center refused to do an implant without proof of vaccination from the GP/pediatrician, then it wouldn't matter whether the families remembered if the vaccination had been done.

Sheri

jillio said:
No, cloggy, I was correcting you. You used the abbreviation "BM" which is the accepted abbreviation for "bowel movement", not bnacterial meningitis.

Did you see the article that said that over 50% of parents of children with CI are unaware whether their children had completed the vaccine? So much for awareness. The child is at increased risk, the parents are unaware, and the parents are not certain whether their child has been protected fromthe risk. That all translates to increased, not reduced, risk.
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I just wanted to clear up something with Angel - did you actually contracted tetanus, or some other infection but the doctor advised you take tetanus shots as precaution?
And it does looks very painful. I am sorry about that.

Fuzzy
 
LTHFAdvocate said:
What I think it translates to is some clinics not doing a thorough enough job. If every implant center refused to do an implant without proof of vaccination from the GP/pediatrician, then it wouldn't matter whether the families remembered if the vaccination had been done.

Sheri
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I agree with you on this.
 
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