Re: video of child crying while CI activated

TXgolfer said:
Jiro, I was quite clear that I respect and am open to all of the opinions expressed. Including yours. I also expressed that it is certainly possible that the child may have frustrations in the future. I am not sure what your objection would be. I feel you are trying to stir up trouble so I will ignore your posts from here on out for the benefit of AD.

In case this is not clear enough for you let me say I respect all Deaf persons and I sympathize with the difficulties they have experienced. I hope for a positive outcome and happy life for everyone.
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so you're being open-minded?

TXgolfer said:
Gotta wonder why the first video is only 23 seconds. But that is the problem with stuff like this, some people are so intolerant of other people's beliefs that they have to twist the truth for dramatic effect and scare tactics.
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does that sound like open mindedness?

**You do not have to answer these questions. It's not needed**
 
Jiro, the answer to your question is yes. Part of being open minded is being able to weed out the propaganda from those who are not open minded. That goes both ways. You'll note that I liked Grayma's post saying the same thing.
 
TXgolfer said:
Jiro, the answer to your question is yes. Part of being open minded is being able to weed out the propaganda from those who are not open minded. That goes both ways. You'll note that I liked Grayma's post saying the same thing.
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how come you didn't like my Post #9? I thought it brought up a good point. :(
 
This thread is the reason why I don't share many experiences of mine very much because I know you guys will just dismiss and ridicule... So, meh.
 
It has been a recurring experience for me to watch Deaf friends discuss wanting a CI -----but get this ---- AWAY from mainstream Deaf culture.

I think it goes without any explanation as to why that happens. They feel as though their opinions will immediately ostracize them. I have seen it happen first hand on numerous occasions.

Also, someone who is willing to listen to a Deaf individual who WANTS a CI is also ostracized and flamed. This is not a small minor part of the Deaf community .. it is rampant and cancerous.

That is not being open minded in my opinion. Respect goes both ways ya know ... if you want someone to listen to how you feel, you have to listen to how they feel too.
 
Steinhauer said:
It has been a recurring experience for me to watch Deaf friends discuss wanting a CI -----but get this ---- AWAY from mainstream Deaf culture.

I think it goes without any explanation as to why that happens. They feel as though their opinions will immediately ostracize them. I have seen it happen first hand on numerous occasions.

Also, someone who is willing to listen to a Deaf individual who WANTS a CI is also ostracized and flamed. This is not a small minor part of the Deaf community .. it is rampant and cancerous.

That is not being open minded in my opinion. Respect goes both ways ya know ... if you want someone to listen to how you feel, you have to listen to how they feel too.
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Bingo
 
Steinhauer said:
It has been a recurring experience for me to watch Deaf friends discuss wanting a CI -----but get this ---- AWAY from mainstream Deaf culture.

I think it goes without any explanation as to why that happens. They feel as though their opinions will immediately ostracize them. I have seen it happen first hand on numerous occasions.

Also, someone who is willing to listen to a Deaf individual who WANTS a CI is also ostracized and flamed. This is not a small minor part of the Deaf community .. it is rampant and cancerous.

That is not being open minded in my opinion. Respect goes both ways ya know ... if you want someone to listen to how you feel, you have to listen to how they feel too.
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Seriously?? Do you realize most Deaf people are fine with people with CIs? We only have a problem if they try to force me to have CIs (or even HAs). You said like the larger, larger majority of the Deaf have that issue with people with CIs. Bullshit. If you think the Deaf majority is insane and closed-minded bastards, you're so damn wrong. What you said is no difference that someone tried to push me to get one, anyway. At mall, the parent tried to silence me because he didn't want his child to see me signing. I was sometimes harassed because my signing bothered people in bus.

Not just me, it's common among Deaf people while Deaf extremists are just small number. But, I'll let you whatever you want to see Deaf Community fit in what you want to see. So, whatever.
 
KarissaMann05 said:
At mall, the parent tried to silence me because he didn't want his child to see me signing. I was sometimes harassed because my signing bothered people in bus.
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That's frustrating. I would love to see more people signing in public.
 
KarissaMann05 said:
Seriously?? Do you realize most Deaf people are fine with people with CIs? We only have a problem if they try to force me to have CIs (or even HAs). You said like the larger, larger majority of the Deaf have that issue with people with CIs. Bullshit. If you think the Deaf majority is insane and closed-minded bastards, you're so damn wrong. What you said is no difference that someone tried to push me to get one, anyway. At mall, the parent tried to silence me because he didn't want his child to see me signing. I was sometimes harassed because my signing bothered people in bus.

Not just me, it's common among Deaf people while Deaf extremists are just small number. But, I'll let you whatever you want to see Deaf Community fit in what you want to see. So, whatever.
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I am just conveying what has been my experience. No, I am not making it up. A lot of times the disdain is masked.
 
Steinhauer said:
It has been a recurring experience for me to watch Deaf friends discuss wanting a CI -----but get this ---- AWAY from mainstream Deaf culture.

I think it goes without any explanation as to why that happens. They feel as though their opinions will immediately ostracize them. I have seen it happen first hand on numerous occasions.

Also, someone who is willing to listen to a Deaf individual who WANTS a CI is also ostracized and flamed. This is not a small minor part of the Deaf community .. it is rampant and cancerous.

That is not being open minded in my opinion. Respect goes both ways ya know ... if you want someone to listen to how you feel, you have to listen to how they feel too.
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Where specifically had this happened?
 
Jiro said:
Where specifically had this happened?
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Gallaudet University

There was also a campus wide outrage when administration was considering allowing hearing undergrads to enroll.

(It wasn't just "any" hearing undergrad, they had to be in a program specifically for the deaf and had to know ASL).
 
Steinhauer said:
Gallaudet University

There was also a campus wide outrage when administration was considering allowing hearing undergrads to enroll.

(It wasn't just "any" hearing undergrad, they had to be in a program specifically for the deaf and had to know ASL).
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Are you sure you're in right thread? I specifically asked where deafies wanting to get CI were being ostracized.

Why are you talking about hearing students wanting to enroll in Gally? :topic:
 
Jiro said:
Are you sure you're in right thread? I specifically asked where deafies wanting to get CI were being ostracized.

Why are you talking about hearing students wanting to enroll in Gally? :topic:
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I saw individuals with a CI intentionally ostracized because of their CI by their deaf peers. Yep, I am in the right thread.

Ever see an entire campus outraged because the administration was going to admit.students that "were not of the same kind"?
 
Well....from what I have seen on this site, no one really got any shit for wanting a CI or having a CI....BUT.....several folks have expressed their disdain for CI's.

One particular member liked to point out all the con's about CI's wherever he could, which made many of us CI users weary, but he never said anything like "Shame on you for having one".

I seem to recall one person preaching that CI's were the way to go, and everyone should try them out....he did get flamed for that.


Edit: Constantly seeing negative comments about CI's does make it feel like "ostracizing".
 
Steinhauer said:
I saw individuals with a CI intentionally ostracized because of their CI by their deaf peers. Yep, I am in the right thread.
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oh gotcha. so what you were referring to is not from here in AD.

Steinhauer said:
Ever see an entire campus outraged because the administration was going to admit.students that "were not of the same kind"?
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no I haven't such thing but do feel free to make a new thread about it because this thread is not about a Gally protest.
 
green427 said:
Well....from what I have seen on this site, no one really got any shit for wanting a CI or having a CI....BUT.....several folks have expressed their disdain for CI's.

One particular member liked to point out all the con's about CI's wherever he could, which made many of us CI users weary, but he never said anything like "Shame on you for having one".

I seem to recall one person preaching that CI's were the way to go, and everyone should try them out....he did get flamed for that.


Edit: Constantly seeing negative comments about CI's does make it feel like "ostracizing".
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yea sounds like a couple of bad eggs.
 
Well, it may now be a thing of the past since most of those bad eggs have now defected to the dark side.
 
green427 said:
Well, it may now be a thing of the past since most of those bad eggs have now defected to the dark side.
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Jiro knows this - but is friends with those bad eggs, that is why he is attempting to smother everything I say.

That's ok though ;)

After having experienced this type of treatment at Gally (The Gallaudet Protests had nothing to do with anything I had been talking about), and here on AD, I get used to it.

The bad egg left and tried to take everyone with him.

GOOD RIDDANCE!

As caustic as that may sound, I would rather discuss volatile issues, such as CI with at least a grain of honesty.
 
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