Questions and debates about blindness:

Nika said:
Ooh, photophobia. Got it. Thanks for answering, dreama.

Jiro, I can't speak for anyone else but I know that I personally couldn't sit in the back of the classroom. I need to be as close as possible to the professor to use my vision maximally.
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i do too. in my case, it's so i can find the professor easier if i need to speak to speak with them after class. it beats trying to walk down 20 stairs in a large lecture hall while trying to figure out where a group of students are standing. <laugh>
 
Nika said:
No offense dreama, but can't you speak for yourself? That is indirectly reinforcing assumptions that deafblind people can't do anything for themselves.

I think that is really unfair of your father to withhold information for you. It's information about your own health.

Maybe you could go to the doctor with a tactile terp in the future.
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The eye doctors don't often know deafblind manual. I do actually speak for myself. It's just they can't answer me. So they speak to my dad and my dad says he'll tell me later.

I have problem getting terps. Hopefully that will be sorted out soon. After the last eye test I think I really need one as I couldn't keep my eye open and the eye doctor won't continue with the examination. I did tell them that they were being discrimating and a few other things. I was really mad. Dont know if it helped though. I've not had an apointment since then.
 
Hm... Could you go with someone else besides your father? Someone that you know would reliably tell you everything?
 
Jiro said:
what's deafblind manual?
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I see hear again has beat me to it.

Deafblind manual is similar to the british two handed alphabet only the speaker makes the signs on the deafblind person's hands instead of in the air. Some letters such as B and W are altered to make that possible.
 
dreama, I know the Deafblind manual so should we ever meet in person we'll be able to communicate! And of course I would go with you to an appointment in a heartbeat and interpret EVERYTHING for you.
 
dreama,

if you can, you should find a way to get a krown braille tty. that would allow someone to type to you directly and read what they've typed on the krown's braille display. this is what i do with my telebraille and it works quite well. the only thing i don't like about the telebraille is that everything is written in grade I braille.
 
Hear Again said:
dreama,

if you can, you should find a way to get a krown braille tty. that would allow someone to type to you directly and read what they've typed on the krown's braille display. this is what i do with my telebraille and it works quite well. the only thing i don't like about the telebraille is that everything is written in grade I braille.
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I thought of getting a face to face with a pacmate. I'd also like a globel positioning divevice. I'd need to get hold of a 2nd hand one though. I'd also need to increase my braille reading speed. People who have the patience for slow communication already use block capital letters on my palm.
 
Nika said:
dreama, I know the Deafblind manual so should we ever meet in person we'll be able to communicate! And of course I would go with you to an appointment in a heartbeat and interpret EVERYTHING for you.
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That would be nice.
 
Hear Again, DB manual letter "B" is like an ASL O handshape on the passive hand or receiver's palm. And DB manual letter "W" is kind of like the ASL sign for DOLLARS except without the sliding motion.

Hope that helps.
 
Hear Again said:
how do the letters b and w in bsl differ from asl?
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It's hard to explain things without diagrames.

ASL alphabet is one handed. I was shown this once but I forgot it. So I don't really know what the letters are.

BSL alphabet is 2 handed. B is made with two hands curled up. Only the deafblind
B is just half of the B sign curled up on the deafblind person's palm. I think it's just adapted to make it easier to use.

Sorry I'm not much good at explaining things.
 
Hopefully my description in terms of ASL handshapes makes sense. If it doesn't Hear Again let me know, and I can try to explain another way.
 
Nika said:
Hear Again, DB manual letter "B" is like an ASL O handshape on the passive hand or receiver's palm. And DB manual letter "W" is kind of like the ASL sign for DOLLARS except without the sliding motion.

Hope that helps.
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Thanks for explaining for me.
 
To give you an idea how the Deafblind Manual Alphabet uses both hands, here are how the vowels are signed:

DB Manual vowels A, E, I, O, and U are the index finger (1 handshape) touching each fingertip of the other hand. A is the 1 handshape touching the thumb tip, E is the index finger, I is the middle finger, O is the ring finger, and U is on the pinky.

The DB manual alphabet is based on the BSL Manual Alphabet, which is also two-handed.
 
nika,

i'm afraid that doesn't make any sense to me. why does the db manual letter b look like an asl letter o?
 
Nika said:
To give you an idea how the Deafblind Manual Alphabet uses both hands, here are how the vowels are signed:

DB Manual vowels A, E, I, O, and U are the index finger (1 handshape) touching each fingertip of the other hand. A is the 1 handshape touching the thumb tip, E is the index finger, I is the middle finger, O is the ring finger, and U is on the pinky.

The DB manual alphabet is based on the BSL Manual Alphabet, which is also two-handed.
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nika,

that doesn't make any sense to me.
 
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