Premature baby not allowed to live under G.B. nationalized health care plan
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The doctor was NOT doing his job. He never even agreed to Examine the baby. He never saw the baby. He didn't care.
If you had a baby who died because the doctor didn't even examine them. Through medical neglect, I'm sure you would feel differantly.
I know how the mother feels because of how badly my mother was treated when she was dying of cancer. Yes I am fully aware that people do die of cancer. I'm sure that the mother knows premmie's die sometimes.
What we find unnacceptable in this case is that the doctor didn't even look at the baby. Didn't offer paultry care which they are supposed to do even with babies of 21 weeks. He didn't even offer the baby any pain releif.
How can anyone condone someone who behaves like that with another living feeling human being?
I don't understand.
And what has god got to do with it anyway?
Just to let you know "God" is a common exclamation. E.g. "God I can't believe I forgot to call him again!" It doesn't actually literally refer to God when used like that.
As bear says, that should tell you something because if the doctor had looked at the baby he would have said so by now.
This story isn't about USA verses English medical care systems. I dare say they both have their flaws.
It's about medical neglect. I feel the mothers pain. Nobody should have to go through what she went through. It just isn't right.
Well they didn't rush to help mom. She was put on a waiting list even though she had cancer. By the time she was seen to, it was too late. If they had caught the cancer in time they could have given her a hysterectomy and she would have been alive today, but they made her wait. The cancer had progressed to a stage where she could no longer be treated with a hysterectomy. She had to have chemo.
Even when she was very ill in hospital with a ventilator a doctor accused her of 'making a fuss over nothing because she was french'.
So you are wrong. Waiting lists are for all things including life threatening conditions like cancer.
It's not just mom either. I know about 3 other people who have relatives who have died needlessly under the NHS.
Deaflissa:
I've lived in Birmingham, Stafford, Stoke-on-trent, Peterbough, Doncaster, and Hereford.
I've also been to a hospital in London although I never lived there.
The care does varies. My worst experiences are in Birmingham and stoke on trent.
My best hospital experiences happened in Brittany France, when I broke my arm over there aged 3 and 7. The hospital room was like being in a hotel.
I've read about people crossing the chanel to escape NHS waiting lists.
I've lived in Birmingham, Stafford, Stoke-on-trent, Peterbough, Doncaster, and Hereford.
I've also been to a hospital in London although I never lived there.
The care does varies. My worst experiences are in Birmingham and stoke on trent.
My best hospital experiences happened in Brittany France, when I broke my arm over there aged 3 and 7. The hospital room was like being in a hotel.
I've read about people crossing the chanel to escape NHS waiting lists.
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For every eight out of ten people that are satisfied with their healthcare, one will be on the fence while the second one will express dislike.
I don't really like the way my province's healthcare is being ran, but I also realize that I am in the minority in term of what my needs are; so I don't badmouth it.I just got a private insurance to bypass the whole waiting list thing, although I don't like using it very often though.
So what you are saying is that Nationalized health service is ok as long as you don't have to use it much. I get the picture.
The problem is that the people with complex health needs also have a right to be seen to, and some of them simply can't afford to go privately.
Chances are in USA they might be seen to by Medaid or Medcare but these same people in UK get a very raw deal.
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No, no, no. The way you phrased the channel thing makes it sound like every British citizen does it, when it is really in the minority.
I said I don't like using my insurance very often because the premium goes up every time I use it. I am one of the 15% of Canadians that don't like the level of care my province gives, but that is only because I am 1) impatient, 2) I have pre-existing conditions that can't really be waiting for 3 months if they come up.
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It's hard to qualify for medicaid (you can have virtually no assets) and there's a wait once you do qualify. It's hardly the solution you think it is. You don't get medicare until 65 and I wouldn't be surprised if the government raised the age. Why do you think so many Americans are desperate for health care?
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yeah, and I hate it what people do that too. totally disrespectful in my opinion. Gosh is fine.. Goodness is fine too. (some used "oh my stars!" or "oh my word")
btw, I think the poster who wrote it may be Jewish, but not sure. Most Jews on the internet usually write G-d or G_d that because they don't want to write his name in vain.
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yes, my mom had breast cancer and she had medicaid. but she didn't survived though. she felt that she would have just been better off without any treatments and just stay home and enjoy life. Chemo took too much from her.
But I am not sure other people with cancer.
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uh yea? I'm pretty damn sure!My brother lived in London for 1 year and he just came back home last week. He said the American way is MUCH better on everything. He is very glad to be back to America
but he did enjoy London very much (don't get me wrong - it's just different lifestyle and he prefers the American way. so do I!!).
Your brother entitled to his opinion as everyone as well.
neither did I. Our family have had surgeries including me and we still have house
It´s good that you and your family have money to achieve expensive healthcare insurance.
I really feel sorry for you.
my father had one for us when we were kids. so does majority of people in my towns. so do majority of my married friends.
It´s good that you & your family have money as the same as wealth people as well.
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limited or unlimited?
ok but not a problem. All of my married friends are insured. Majority of American families have insurances anyway.
so tell me - majority of your population goes to where? public or private? in here - majority goes private
oh I'm supposed to laugh? ha. ha. ha. ha. ha.
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It´s good that you and your family have money to acheive expensive healthcare.
and we have seen many Europeans who are uneducated over American way on many issues
Of course we know that we have different cultural background and Cultural mentality. We have no problem to respect each other when we want to agree to disagree each other.
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You posted a link from Jayden's doctors? I read your other links but I didn't see that one. I went back over your posts and I can't find it.
http://www.alldeaf.com/1414061-post280.html
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let me answer that for you. It's because it's too costly and nearly impossible to win against GOVERNMENT.
My friend's family gave up costly and lengthy lawsuit against government-run hospital in China. Their twin daughter died at birth due to doctor's mistake but then... that's what the family felt and the doctors said otherwise.
UK is not communism. I don´t know why you compare UK with China.
I answered your repeat questions from here to other thread at other thread.
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*nodding sadly* Some Americans are very ignorants and think themselves because they have money and don´t bother to think and feel how others feel.
Yes, I relate you and your description. It´s exact what many Americans feel. I myself have unlimited healthcare coverage and know what I am saying and that´s why I support Obama fully to help Americans to easy with their life.
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and I live in America for over 20 years and I must say Sicko is HALF-accurate.
I will create a new thread to separate from this thread here.
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