Premature baby not allowed to live under G.B. nationalized health care plan

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Reba said:
I guess we'll never know because the attending staff didn't bother to check on the baby's lung development or true age. They decided "hands off" before the baby even made his appearance.
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Who says this? Doctor?
 
KarissaMann05 said:
:grouphug:

Can't just we move on? :D

They agreed the baby was not able to survive and it's better to leave him die.

Other posters agreed the baby was able to survive and it's better to give him a chance.

We have different opinions. :grouphug: :)
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Agreed :grouphug:
 
people of poverty here are more likely to do drugs, drink, and smoke during pregnancy. they also more likely eat processed food which why we are the most overweight people (think "Little Debbie" or twinkles). processed food are very cheap here compare to fresh fruits and vegetables. Which why I feel WIC should cover fresh food. The problem is that some of these mothers don't know how to cook or even have time to cook and work. I mean, how many of you know how to cook lentil beans (one of the WIC list of food) without making it taste so yucky?

Also everywhere I turn, there is another mother who is giving birth way too early- premature, especially through C-sections, these babies would never have a birth and death certificate if it wasn't for our technologies that kept them alive after birth. it would be considered "miscarriage" or something like that. Babies who are born at the appropriate time are more likely survive for good. We do have concerns about SID and no one knows the cause of it. It can happen unexpected even if they did have a regular well-baby checkup.

whatever the reasons, none of it is really due to lack of healthcare. most of these pregnant mother do go to the doctor and sometimes there is nothing they can really do about it if something went wrong.

but I feel that if it is not the doctor's job to fight for your life even if they don't think it is worth it, then maybe we all be better off with natural care (what's the word for it? it is where people seek herbs and such) and stay home.
 
If some of you are angry about health care reform, you should not be angry at President Obama. He is trying hard. But, all of the Republicans do not want any changes, so they are fighting him. One way they are fighting him is to lie about health care reform. Some people are believing the lies, and then they get mad at Pres. Obama.
Health care reform is probably not going to help us or hurt us. Why not? Because some of you already have health care through Medicaid and Medicare, it may help or hurt some people, because they don't have a job, and that they need to pay for their own health care right now. Whatever happens, it will not happen fast.
Am I making any sense???
 
Sosie said:
If some of you are angry about health care reform, you should not be angry at President Obama. He is trying hard. But, all of the Republicans do not want any changes, so they are fighting him. One way they are fighting him is to lie about health care reform. Some people are believing the lies, and then they get mad at Pres. Obama.
Health care reform is probably not going to help us or hurt us. Why not? Because some of you already have health care through Medicaid and Medicare, it may help or hurt some people, because they don't have a job, and that they need to pay for their own health care right now. Whatever happens, it will not happen fast.
Am I making any sense???
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Makes sense to me.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Who says this? Doctor?
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Yes.
"Jayden was born on the Friday - so paediatricians refused not only to treat him, but, shockingly, even to see him.

'When he was born breathing and moving, I begged the midwife to go and fetch the doctors,' says Sarah. 'I couldn't believe they'd be so callous as to leave him. But she returned from the critical care unit sobbing and shaking her head.'

It made no difference to doctors that her son was breathing unaided, waving his tiny fists around as he fought on alone for two hours.

According to medical guidance he was simply a miscarriage - a foetus - so he must be left to die.

To Sarah, who witnessed her son's battling strength and spirit, the decision not to help him is contemptible.

'My son could have been saved, but doctors simply chose not to,' says the 23-year-old from Farnmouth.

'It's horrendous. The doctors even refused to assess him. They said he was stillborn even though he was moving around in front of me, turning his head and waving his hands."
 
kokonut said:
I don't live in G.B.! But I'll certainly give my support to Dreama since she's over there in London. The United States is safe...for now.

I stated my opinions based on the available information. Nothing to it. Yet I hear complaints. Everybody else has an opinion but I cannot? I certainly do not go around and complain about people who make their own opinions. Everybody argues and debate, does that mean what they do is a complete waste of time in AD, too?
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That's fine if you want to state your opinions but it just seems like it is being repeated over and over again. Same thing with other ADers too. Doesnt it become stangant? :dunno:
 
And you're complaining?

I'm entitled to defend my opinions based on facts and circumstances even if it means repeating in a variety of ways. I see others repeat ad nauseum as well but I just shrug my shoulders and move on.
 
kokonut said:
And you're complaining?

I'm entitled to defend my opinions based on facts and circumstances even if it means repeating in a variety of ways. I see others repeat ad nauseum as well but I just shrug my shoulders and move on.
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Not complaining..just trying to establish a rapport with you after you responded to my post. Never mind. Let's move on.
 
Is it just me or does anyone else feel like everything that has to be said has already been said?
 
saywhatkid said:
That's IT!!!!!!! I am going to stop listening to everyone and vote for Conservatives from now on. Obaba lies! Rush rules!
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I think you just won brownie points with conservatives for getting Obama's name wrong. :giggle:
 
Sosie said:
If some of you are angry about health care reform, you should not be angry at President Obama. He is trying hard. But, all of the Republicans do not want any changes, so they are fighting him. One way they are fighting him is to lie about health care reform. Some people are believing the lies, and then they get mad at Pres. Obama.
Health care reform is probably not going to help us or hurt us. Why not? Because some of you already have health care through Medicaid and Medicare, it may help or hurt some people, because they don't have a job, and that they need to pay for their own health care right now. Whatever happens, it will not happen fast.
Am I making any sense???
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Yes, you make sense.

Yes all of childish ads and media propaganda about other country´s healthcare like Nazi, Communist, etc to brainwash Americans against Obama.

Yes I have a very hard time understand why some Americans are against universal health care when they know that they won´t get buankruptcy when they get sick.

Yes, we are appalled at that negative response of some Americans towards their president's healthcare plans.

I really feel sorry for those people who oppose Obama´s healthcare plan.

Reba said:
Yes.
"Jayden was born on the Friday - so paediatricians refused not only to treat him, but, shockingly, even to see him.

'When he was born breathing and moving, I begged the midwife to go and fetch the doctors,' says Sarah. 'I couldn't believe they'd be so callous as to leave him. But she returned from the critical care unit sobbing and shaking her head.'

It made no difference to doctors that her son was breathing unaided, waving his tiny fists around as he fought on alone for two hours.

According to medical guidance he was simply a miscarriage - a foetus - so he must be left to die.

To Sarah, who witnessed her son's battling strength and spirit, the decision not to help him is contemptible.

'My son could have been saved, but doctors simply chose not to,' says the 23-year-old from Farnmouth.

'It's horrendous. The doctors even refused to assess him. They said he was stillborn even though he was moving around in front of me, turning his head and waving his hands."
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You pasted part of the article from the link, Kokonut post is woman´s side of story.

I assume that you don´t bother to read the fact link, I posted yesterday.







Jiro said:
nothing related to this issue.
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No matter but infant death, period because Kokonut badmouthed over other country´s healthcare, saying that his country don´t do that.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
No matter but infant death, period because Kokonut badmouthed over other country´s healthcare, saying that his country don´t do that.
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yes it does matter. Your link has NOTHING to do with this issue. not even close. It's COMPLETELY UNRELATED to this topic. It is unfortunate that British doctors do it but American doctors do not. You know why? MALPRACTICE LAWSUIT.
 
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