Political Scientist: Republicans Most Conservative They've Been In 100 Years

[Reba]

Are you try to underestimate my knowledge? I lived in Alabama for 4 years.

There are NO public housing OUTSIDE of Birmingham city limit, exception of Bessemer. All of public housing are LIMITED to city limit only.

Where did I said about Section 8? I don't mention that, both of public housing and Section are not same. Section 8 is just voucher that alternative to public housing, however you have deal with long wait list because of limited funding.

Expansion MEANS increase MORE and MORE public housing so city of Birmingham hasn't expand the public housing since 1960's. It is UNCOMMON for public housing to be replaced with mixed income housing like one to downtown. There are plenty of low income apartments in city limit that are not public housing.

Last, I'm NOT lie at you and there are NO NO NO public housing in suburb, period. :roll:

I know that you're not lying.

If you go to the home page of Birmingham housing ( Housing Authority of the Birmingham District ), and click the "public housing sites" link, you get this:

HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE BIRMINGHAM DISTRICT
HOUSING COMMUNITIES

Dev. # Development Name Units Address Zip Code Phone No. Fax. No.
AL 1-1 Elyton Village 555 31 4th Court, West 35204 521-7740 521-7878
AL-I-4 Southtown Court 455 2501 University Blvd. 35205 521-7720 521-7879
AL 1-6 Marks Village 499 7527 66th Street, South 35212 521-7820 521-7886
AL 1-7 Loveman Village 499 248 1st Avenue, S.W. 35211 521-7750 521-7880
AL 1-9 Smithfield Court 456 150 8th Avenue, North 35204 521-7730 521-7881
AL 1-10 Tom Brown Village 245 4165 5th Court, North 35222 521-7777 714-4311
AL 1-11 Morton Simpson Village 499 4600 8th Court, North 35212 521-7800 521-7882
AL 1-13 Collegeville Center 394 3031 29th Avenue, North 35207 521-7760 521-7889
AL 1-14 Harris Homes 200 514 Chester Avenue 35212 521-7790 521-7892
AL 1-16 North Birmingham Homes 291 3127 43rd Avenue, North 35207 521-7780 521 -7891
AL 1 -17 Cooper Green Homes 311 1501 Arthur Shores Drive 35211 521-7830 521-7883
AL 1-18 Kimbrough Homes 231 2817 Wallace Covington Circle 35211 521-7840 521-7890
AL 1-21 Freedom Manor 102 1617 5th Avenue, North 35203 521-7707 521-7884
AL 1- 23/30 Ben Greene Village/Roosevelt City 129 5828 Brewer Drive 35233 425-7785 425-4591



It shows that there are a few thousand public housing units. (They are the bolded numbers.)

The public housing neighborhoods are usually inner city. The Section 8 units are usually in the suburbs. Different kinds of housing but they are all tax-supported public housing for low-income people.

 

[Foxrac]

Not to be rude but perhaps you should spend more time learning and less time opining. Then again maybe we all should. Thomas Sowell has lived a life few of us can imagine. You are in your 20's.....Thomas Sowell is an extremely well educated black man who is in his 80's. He lived the life that you post about so he probably has a pretty good idea about what it is like. Not saying you have to be conservative but good grief.

There are two ways to blame on increase of single parent, increase of prisoners among minorities and other social problems.

I don't agree about blame on welfare programs nor is liberal policies only.

 

[Barbaro]

Thomas Sowell considers himself a libertarian, not a conservative. He mentions that he doesn't like the word, conservative. He used to be a marxist.

 

[Foxrac]

What?

What you want for me to do anything with you?

I feel about there are excuse to find a reason that we need to destroy the welfare programs. :roll:

I don't believe that welfare programs have affect on families.

 

[Reba]

...How you feel about woman smoking while pregnant? It is VERY wrongful to me.

It's not a healthy choice, for sure.

I think that abortion has been declining today? because I read news about abortion clinics in Alabama are declining from 1980's.

It still impacts the number of babies available for adoption.

 

[Foxrac]

I know that you're not lying.

If you go to the home page of Birmingham housing ( Housing Authority of the Birmingham District ), and click the "public housing sites" link, you get this:

HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE BIRMINGHAM DISTRICT
HOUSING COMMUNITIES

Dev. # Development Name Units Address Zip Code Phone No. Fax. No.
AL 1-1 Elyton Village 555 31 4th Court, West 35204 521-7740 521-7878
AL-I-4 Southtown Court 455 2501 University Blvd. 35205 521-7720 521-7879
AL 1-6 Marks Village 499 7527 66th Street, South 35212 521-7820 521-7886
AL 1-7 Loveman Village 499 248 1st Avenue, S.W. 35211 521-7750 521-7880
AL 1-9 Smithfield Court 456 150 8th Avenue, North 35204 521-7730 521-7881
AL 1-10 Tom Brown Village 245 4165 5th Court, North 35222 521-7777 714-4311
AL 1-11 Morton Simpson Village 499 4600 8th Court, North 35212 521-7800 521-7882
AL 1-13 Collegeville Center 394 3031 29th Avenue, North 35207 521-7760 521-7889
AL 1-14 Harris Homes 200 514 Chester Avenue 35212 521-7790 521-7892
AL 1-16 North Birmingham Homes 291 3127 43rd Avenue, North 35207 521-7780 521 -7891
AL 1 -17 Cooper Green Homes 311 1501 Arthur Shores Drive 35211 521-7830 521-7883
AL 1-18 Kimbrough Homes 231 2817 Wallace Covington Circle 35211 521-7840 521-7890
AL 1-21 Freedom Manor 102 1617 5th Avenue, North 35203 521-7707 521-7884
AL 1- 23/30 Ben Greene Village/Roosevelt City 129 5828 Brewer Drive 35233 425-7785 425-4591

It shows that there are a few thousand public housing units. (They are the bolded numbers.)

The public housing neighborhoods are usually inner city. The Section 8 units are usually in the suburbs. Different kinds of housing but they are all tax-supported public housing for low-income people.

There is something that I learned from other forums about public housing had expanded in most cities until 1960's, sometime, thorough to 1980's in some cities. Now, we have HOPE that modernize the depressed public housing into mixed income housing. I have noticed about public housing in Chicago are replaced with mixed income housing, same goes with LA as well.

No way for me to live in public housing due to fear of being victim of crime and pretty sad that we are not person who from Singapore or Hong Kong that have a lot of nice and high rise public housing with low crime. We are on different society, I think so.

Which is cheaper for taxpayers? Section 8 or public housing

Both of them have long wait list, you know that?

 

[Foxrac]

Thomas Sowell is a genius and has an incredible story. I have met him and feel very fortunate to have done so.

That's ok and I'm not mocking at you for love Thomas Sowell.

Honest with you, I found his writing about history is interesting but not sure if I agree with him.

Like I said, there are other way to blame instead of limit to liberal policies only.

 

[Foxrac]

Thomas Sowell considers himself a libertarian, not a conservative. He mentions that he doesn't like the word, conservative. He used to be a marxist.

for clear it out.

 

[Foxrac]

It's not a healthy choice, for sure.

It still impacts the number of babies available for adoption.

Yup, I agree about not healthy choice and concerned about birth defect that will result into more welfare programs in future.

Ok, I don't know about what is severity that abortion has impact on numbers of availability for adoption.

The abortion seems reasonable if women who had raped before or have their life threaten.

 

[Foxrac]

I discussed with my friend.

He considered Grayma's post as shortsighted and misleading view.

He explains about reason for increase of single parent.
- there are many institutional problems and policies that are hundreds of years old.
- the increase in single parenthood can be attributed to many things.
- it is less restrictive to divorce now, and there is less pressure to get married early.

He explains about compare to past and today.
- PAST: before it was very difficult to divorce, so it was very hard for a woman with an abusive husband to prove that she deserved a divorce.
- PAST: the only way you could divorce was if you could prove that your spouse was cheating on you.
- Now: we have no-fault divorce now... if the two parties want to separate, they can... one of them doesn't have to prove anything.

I found his discussion is interesting, like I said, there are other things to blame.

 

[Jiro]

No, it isn't just a matter of changing times. It's a matter of the Welfare State harming families.
Thomas Sowell, black conservative, sociologist, historian, and author
The welfare state: Rhetoric vs. reality

He's an economist, not sociologist.

I'm wondering what's up with the rightist conservative's fascination and adoration with that buffoon. he is completely delusional and out of touch with the reality because he has a wildly contorted view like comparing Obama as Hitler.

Thomas Sowell... that very same buffoon whose work was debunked by Amaryta Sen who happened to have a Nobel Prize with over 90 honorary degrees and professorship background in dozens of top colleges in the world.... and whose book was criticized for his fallacious argument by William Julius Wilson, a sociologist who holds 41 honorary degrees and a bunch of highest honors and awards. Take a careful look at his background. He's a hack who spews hate and divide.

He's as comical as Rush Limbaugh.

 

[Jiro]

I discussed with my friend.

He considered Grayma's post as shortsighted and misleading view.

He explains about reason for increase of single parent.
- there are many institutional problems and policies that are hundreds of years old.
- the increase in single parenthood can be attributed to many things.
- it is less restrictive to divorce now, and there is less pressure to get married early.

He explains about compare to past and today.
- PAST: before it was very difficult to divorce, so it was very hard for a woman with an abusive husband to prove that she deserved a divorce.
- PAST: the only way you could divorce was if you could prove that your spouse was cheating on you.
- Now: we have no-fault divorce now... if the two parties want to separate, they can... one of them doesn't have to prove anything.

I found his discussion is interesting, like I said, there are other things to blame.

plus.... in the past - women did not have same career/life opportunity and equal rights as today.

 

[Jiro]

Thomas Sowell is a genius and has an incredible story. I have met him and feel very fortunate to have done so.

lol.

yea.... a con man can be a very convincing genius and is quite a storyteller too.

 

[rolling7]

lol.

yea.... a con man can be a very convincing genius and is quite a storyteller too.

Not again!!! Unless you can back up your statement, you have committed slander which is against the AD rules. Your post has been reported.

 

[Jiro]

Not again!!! Unless you can back up your statement, you have committed slander which is against the AD rules. Your post has been reported.

I'm required to back up my statement with some source in here and yet you felt no need to back up your statement with some source in other thread...... ooooohhhhh IIIIII ssssseeeeeeeee........

Yes, I can disagree/agree with what a source says but have no personal interaction with that source, as I'm having with you and other members of AD. I don't need to hear/read of another source that agrees/disagrees with the first source because I have a mind of my own and do not need backup. My questions in post #410 are serious questions that should be answered by the Commission but that will not happen. Nevertheless, I have stated that this is a flawed bias report and you are free to disagree with me.

you get to slander Warren Christopher and I can't "slander" Thomas Sowell. ooooohhhhh IIIIII ssssseeeeeeeee........

FYI - I have not violated any AD rule since I have not made a slander against any ADer in here. You seem to be very confused about "slandering". It is typically illegal to slander against a person without proof if it resulted in economic loss and/or damage but it is not illegal to criticize about anybody else in typical discussion between people like ourselves. perhaps you missed my Post #111 where I've already backed up my statement.

BTW - can you cite exactly which AD rule have I violated? I don't see anywhere in there about slandering.

 

[Reba]

I discussed with my friend.

He considered Grayma's post as shortsighted and misleading view.

He explains about reason for increase of single parent.
- there are many institutional problems and policies that are hundreds of years old.
- the increase in single parenthood can be attributed to many things.
- it is less restrictive to divorce now, and there is less pressure to get married early.

He explains about compare to past and today.
- PAST: before it was very difficult to divorce, so it was very hard for a woman with an abusive husband to prove that she deserved a divorce.
- PAST: the only way you could divorce was if you could prove that your spouse was cheating on you.
- Now: we have no-fault divorce now... if the two parties want to separate, they can... one of them doesn't have to prove anything.

I found his discussion is interesting, like I said, there are other things to blame.

It's not just about divorce.

Many couples are never marrying.

Some women are having babies with no intention of ever marrying the father. Some have children by several different fathers.

A divorced or widowed mother is not a single mom. A divorced or widowed mother did have a husband. A single mom is a woman who has never been married but has children.

 

[Reba]

I'm wondering what's up with the rightist conservative's fascination and adoration with that buffoon. he is completely delusional and out of touch with the reality because he has a wildly contorted view like comparing Obama as Hitler.

Thomas Sowell... that very same buffoon whose work was debunked by Amaryta Sen who happened to have a Nobel Prize with over 90 honorary degrees and professorship background in dozens of top colleges in the world.... and whose book was criticized for his fallacious argument by William Julius Wilson, a sociologist who holds 41 honorary degrees and a bunch of highest honors and awards. Take a careful look at his background. He's a hack who spews hate and divide.

He's as comical as Rush Limbaugh.

I think you just enjoy keying "buffoon."

Anyway, as a conservative, I don't have a fascination or adoration for anyone on earth except Hubby. However, Sowell does bring up some excellent points. He is well grounded and not "out of touch" or delusional.

The Nobel Prize has lost its gleam is some areas. Honorary degrees are just that--symbolic honors. Almost every person of note who has given a speech at a university graduation ceremony gets one. Sometimes they get one for giving a chunk of money to the school. It proves nothing, one way or another.

 

[Reba]

THOMAS SOWELL

Thomas Sowell was born in North Carolina and grew up in Harlem. As with many others in his neighborhood, Thomas Sowell left home early and did not finish high school. The next few years were difficult ones, but eventually he joined the Marine Corps and became a photographer in the Korean War. After leaving the service, Thomas Sowell entered Harvard University, worked a part-time job as a photographer and studied the science that would become his passion and profession: economics.

After graduating magna cum laude from Harvard University (1958), Thomas Sowell went on to receive his master's in economics from Columbia University (1959) and a doctorate in economics from the University of Chicago (1968).

In the early '60s, Sowell held jobs as an economist with the Department of Labor and AT&T. But his real interest was in teaching and scholarship. In 1965, at Cornell University, Sowell began the first of many professorships. Thomas Sowell's other teaching assignments include Rutgers University, Amherst College, Brandeis University and the University of California at Los Angeles, where he taught in the early '70s and also from 1984 to 1989.

Thomas Sowell has published a large volume of writing. His dozen books, as well as numerous articles and essays, cover a wide range of topics, from classic economic theory to judicial activism, from civil rights to choosing the right college. Moreover, much of his writing is considered ground-breaking -- work that will outlive the great majority of scholarship done today.

Though Thomas Sowell had been a regular contributor to newspapers in the late '70s and early '80s, he did not begin his career as a newspaper columnist until 1984. George F. Will's writing, says Sowell, proved to him that someone could say something of substance in so short a space (750 words). And besides, writing for the general public enables him to address the heart of issues without the smoke and mirrors that so often accompany academic writing.

In 1990, he won the prestigious Francis Boyer Award, presented by The American Enterprise Institute.

Currently Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institute in Stanford, Calif.

Thomas Sowell - Conservative Columnist and Political Commentator2012 Column Archive2004 Column Archive2011 Column Archive2011 Column Archive

 

[Reba]

plus.... in the past - women did not have same career/life opportunity and equal rights as today.

If women have those equal rights and opportunities, why are they needing so many social services in order to survive?

What is the career benefit to being an unwed mother?

 

[Jiro]

If women have those equal rights and opportunities, why are they needing so many social services in order to survive?

such as?

What is the career benefit to being an unwed mother?

it's a personal choice so you'll have to ask them.