Police: 20 Feared Dead After Florida Nightclub Terror Attack

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seb said:
We never will have all the answers. The local authorities and the FBI will whitewash the final report on the shooting to put themselves in the best possible light and show that they missed nothing. Look up some of the past mass murderers final reports and see how they were watered down or whitewashed, the same will happen in Orlando. The Orlando Police have to work on two homicide reports and explain how two people on two consecutive days were able to kill people in public venues without any police presence or security at the scene to keep shooters from gaining axcess. Should be an interesting read.
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Right, everything is still ongoing investigation . Just like San Bernardino, we are still grieving the loss of people we knew and families missing their loved ones daily. It does break my heart when I drive in the city and the lives that were took. Now, see Orlando going through the same thing.
 
Jiro said:
in San Bernardino case... those 2 people did not receive training nor communication from a terrorist organization. they were homegrown self-radicalized terrorists. the point I'm driving at is that America is under attack by domestic terrorism (self-radicalized, extremist, lone wolf, sick deranged person, etc) rather than coordinated/financed/orchestrated terrorist attack by ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, etc. I believe that Orlando shooter is same as San Bernardino - self-radicalized, lunatic, and lone wolf.

that's the problem... ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc... those we can monitor and spy on most of times.... but homegrown self-radicalized terrorists? we can't. only possible way is to strip away entire Constitution - sacrifice your freedom and liberty for security.
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Any act of violence is terrorist attack doesn't mean they have to a foreigner to commit a terrorist attrack. They can be domestic homeland individual and still commit terror attacks. The shooters both San Bernardino and Orlanda have some connection with ISIS.
The Orlando shooter pledge allegiance to ISIS.

Like , I mentioned we can all spectulate but never find the truth in these two incidents.

My opinion , false flag.
 
seb said:
Like I said: He's dead, so now we will have to rely on medical records, police academy tests and family and friends statements. The first three haven't come out yet, but now that he's dead the medical records are no longer private, so we will have to wait and see what they say. "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck."
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right.
so you have no evidence
indeed if it looks like a duck ....
so tell me

when a person states to the police they are killing for a forign state and for its ideology,
and in turn that foreign state agrees and admits indeed he did so

what duck is that?

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Jiro said:
only possible way is to strip away entire Constitution - sacrifice your freedom and liberty for security.
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WTF? That is the most retarded, anti American thing that I have read in my entire life. Well, excuse me, I do not know what you are thinking, can you explain that?
 
Jiro said:
oh I'm sorry I did not answer your question the way you want. I do not know the answer.

So I ask you - did Omar Mateen receive any training and instruction from ISIS to execute this attack?
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as far as we know he didn't. he did go to saudi arabia a couple of times, who he met with and who shagged who's goats is anybodies guess

we do know he stated his allegiance to a forign state (isis) and that he was doing it for them and that they in turn accepted responsibility for it.
we know that

its being dismissed and hushed and ignored, and spun for other narratives, like "its just hate" so on
but we know that

its no longer "they hate us for our freedom" (yawn)
its
"they hate us because they saw two guys kissing" (shakes ehad)

both are rather silly..

it also opens up another serious question

if an untrained dedicated adherent can easily perpetrate the largest mass murder in the states history
what do you think a trained dedicated adherent can do?

the issue is the adherence.
that's what makes it so dangerous.

even an untrained dude, once he is sufficiently turned, can cause allot of damage...

imagine what a team of trained adherents could do,
think paris but allot more bloody

the lack of his training here, isnt really a bone to pick on given the stack of bodies he left behind

but
lets ignore the hard questions

instead
he did for roggerrabit because he saw some guys kissing..and it upset mickymouse

move along folks
nothing to see here..
 
Rio said:
This entire case is only based upon theory and possibilities. It will take a very long time to pin point what really happened.

The shooter did call 9-1-1 and even pledged ISIS allegiance. That tells me something it was a terrorist attack.

No one mentions San Bernardino any more . That happened close to six months ago and people are still grieving.
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Are you kidding? Oh another mass shooting.... Look a squirrel.
People have an attention span today of a goldfish.... just Brainwashed by the news and government and refreshed when they feel the need to do so.
 
oh in case you havent noticed.... let me burst y'all bubble here,
Have you noticed they are now saying "automatic" weapons instead of "assault" weapon.....hmmmmm.
 
sonocativo said:
Fer realz man ! I wouldnt make this stuff up...
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Where can I get one? I can pass alll background checks. But, hey...they are illegal, unless you have tax stamps, ATF approval..and whatnot. $$$$$
 
sonocativo said:
Are you kidding? Oh another mass shooting.... Look a squirrel.
People have an attention span today of a goldfish.... just Brainwashed by the news and government and refreshed when they feel the need to do so.
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Can you find a proof for the incidents?

Anyways , just saying .
 
Cappy said:
I think Steiny meant that Trump will make America, Patrotic again on our home turf vs ISIS or whatnot.
Hoochie, my man..please use capital "A" when spelling America, thank you.
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Trump is as Parotic as the shooter was !
 
A little light to shed on the shooter...
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