Parents want hearing school to get state funding

Reba said:
That doesn't apply to a private school.

I know of a student who attended a private school that had two stories. The boy had mobility problems and needed an elevator for the second floor. The school wasn't required to provide one, and the school really couldn't afford to have one installed. So, the boy's parents formed a booster club to raise money for an elevator installation. That's how they did it.
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Right, a private school is not required to follow the IDEA law. I was talking about a public school. They would be required by law to change the school for the student, regardless of the price.
 
The issue is, if a public school has a student with special needs and they are unable to provide the child with a free and appropriate education (as is required by federal law) and the IEP team determines that the only appropriate placement would be in a private school, should the district have to pay for it?

The law has already answered this question, and they have determined that yes, the school will pay for the private placement.
 
faire_jour said:
The child would have the right to a class in the child's language and mode of communication. In the case of an oral child that would be spoken language and not visual language.
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did I say he would be taught in visual language? in my special education class, we were split up in groups.
 
faire_jour said:
Right, a private school is not required to follow the IDEA law. I was talking about a public school. They would be required by law to change the school for the student, regardless of the price.
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Weren't you talking about a public school district paying for a deaf child to attend a private school?
 
A said:
did I say he would be taught in visual language? in my special education class, we were split up in groups.
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If the language used in the classroom is other than spoken language the placement would no longer be appropriate and the least restrictive enviroment for the oral only student.
 
Reba said:
Weren't you talking about a public school district paying for a deaf child to attend a private school?
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Yes, if the school can not provide an appropriate education for a child with a disability, they must pay for the child to attend another program that does provide an appropriate education.
 
faire_jour said:
The issue is, if a public school has a student with special needs and they are unable to provide the child with a free and appropriate education (as is required by federal law) and the IEP team determines that the only appropriate placement would be in a private school, should the district have to pay for it?
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Does the IEP take a vote? Is sending the child of that school to another one beyond the scope of that school's IEP team?

I don't know how that works. I thought the IEP involved some give and take to achieve the best plan using available resources.

What if "the team" decided that the best thing for the student would be for the family to move to another state that had better options? Who would be responsible for those expenses? :dunno:

The law has already answered this question, and they have determined that yes, the school will pay for the private placement.
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What if that private placement is in a church-affiliated school? Then you have a conflict of church and state.

It seems very complicated.
 
faire_jour said:
Yes, if the school can not provide an appropriate education for a child with a disability, they must pay for the child to attend another program that does provide an appropriate education.
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Even if it's in a private school without an elevator for the kid in a wheelchair?
 
faire_jour said:
Yes, if the school can not provide an appropriate education for a child with a disability, they must pay for the child to attend another program that does provide an appropriate education.
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You do realize that, by this logic, ALL students for ALL specialized schools must be paid by the government. The reason for a school to be specialized is to be geared for a certain group of kids. I.E. oral school for the deaf. So basically an "appropriate" education for those special kids.
 
Reba said:
Does the IEP take a vote? Is sending the child of that school to another one beyond the scope of that school's IEP team?

I don't know how that works. I thought the IEP involved some give and take to achieve the best plan using available resources.

What if "the team" decided that the best thing for the student would be for the family to move to another state that had better options? Who would be responsible for those expenses? :dunno:


What if that private placement is in a church-affiliated school? Then you have a conflict of church and state.

It seems very complicated.
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It is very complicated. Money is, legally, not supposed to ever be a factor. And yes, if the IEP team determined that a child needs to attend a school that is far away the district must pay for transportation for the child. But in my state the child is only allowed to be on the bus for 80 minutes, so if it further than that, the child must go residential.
 
faire_jour said:
If the language used in the classroom is other than spoken language the placement would no longer be appropriate and the least restrictive enviroment for the oral only student.
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And what if it is (like I said, they have a teamwork of professionals working with CI students) that they work with one half of students while the other half is in gym/art/mainstream social studies/etc?.
 
Also, you said the law decides what's an appropriate education. Well, it decided that Clarke is not appropriate. And yet, you disagree.

Do you think parents should decide what is an appropriate education for their child? After all, parents know what's best for their child, so they should decide, right? Then have the tax dollars to pay for whatever they decide.. right?
 
Daredevel7 said:
You do realize that, by this logic, ALL students for ALL specialized schools must be paid by the government. The reason for a school to be specialized is to be geared for a certain group of kids. I.E. oral school for the deaf. So basically an "appropriate" education for those special kids.
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Only if the IEP teams decided that this is the least restrictive enviroment (meaing they can not function in a closer, public school).
 
faire_jour said:
It is very complicated. Money is, legally, not supposed to ever be a factor. And yes, if the IEP team determined that a child needs to attend a school that is far away the district must pay for transportation for the child.
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Even if the family has to move to another state? Are you sure about that?

But in my state the child is only allowed to be on the bus for 80 minutes, so if it further than that, the child must go residential.
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Would residential be an acceptable option to you?
 
A said:
And what if it is (like I said, they have a teamwork of professionals working with CI students) that they work with one half of students while the other half is in gym/art/mainstream social studies/etc?.
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If the child is an oral only classroom, working with professionals that know and understand oral deaf education, that is the right placement for an oral deaf child. I don't care if it is public, private or run by kangaroos.
 
Reba said:
Even if the family has to move to another state? Are you sure about that?


Would residential be an acceptable option to you?
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When CID was still residential they had kids being paid for by districts in every state. They don't have to pay for the family, they just have to pay for the child.

I would never personally send my child residential, but many people would and do.
 
faire_jour said:
Only if the IEP team placed the child at a private school. If the parents put him there, they no longer have rights.
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IEP teams can't enroll kids in private schools; only the parent or legal guardians can. So you are saying that if an IEP team recommends a private school, and the parents enroll the student in the private school, then the public school district is NOT responsible for paying for that private school tuition. Correct?
 
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